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Transmaritanus
Sinister Elite
Black Legion.
40
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:12:00 -
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So back when I was a highsec dweller (of which there are no benefits to being, other than hiding because violence is scary) I used to roam in low-sec for actual fun in my life. At the time I had this wrong notion that a highsec was necessary, and thus trained Fast Talk to augment my sec status.
Well now that I've been hovering at -9.7 sec status for a while, and wondering how I still am not -10 after popping idiots in their pods. Well, It's that vistigial fast talk skill from ages ago!
I thought that the bonus was to battleship ratting increase, but instead it's for my sec status itself.
I wonder if CCP will consider removing this skill so that the badge of competency (being -10) can finally be worn by deserving capsuleers.
Thoughts?
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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
34
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:16:00 -
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Skill at interacting with Concord. 5% Bonus to effective security rating increase.
Should CCP change things to compensate for a users inability to comprehend a reasonably straight forward sentence? |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4673
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:18:00 -
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"I should be compensated for being dumb."
No.
Module activation timers are buggy. CCP please fix. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13770
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:18:00 -
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So it's not actually useless GÇö it just has a use you are not interested in (any more).
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
280
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:19:00 -
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I dumped my learning skills into Fast Talk V when they were reimbursed. Best decision of my EVE career.
Hey, as a dude that lives in lowsec, you should read my idea on how to "fix" it... in Blog format, complete with a spreadsheet!
http://3xxxd.blogspot.com/2012/09/how-to-buff-lowsec.html |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
3273
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:20:00 -
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For People seeking NOT to be -10, the skill is very relevant.
For People seeking to be -10, the skill is useless.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
State War Academy
Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:22:00 -
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Setaceous wrote:Skill at interacting with Concord. 5% Bonus to effective security rating increase.
Should CCP change things to compensate for a users inability to comprehend a reasonably straight forward sentence?
Looks as if he found reading comprehension as useless as he found hi-sec |
Sixx Spades
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
135
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:22:00 -
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My compatriots have never had a problem with going to -10, even with Fast Talk trained to IV. You just suck at what you do, or you don't do it enough.
Using a weapon as a deterrent in a diplomatic situation is only viable when you have proven that you have deployed it in the past and are willing to use it in the future. |
Transmaritanus
Sinister Elite
Black Legion.
40
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:26:00 -
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Setaceous wrote:Skill at interacting with Concord. 5% Bonus to effective security rating increase.
Should CCP change things to compensate for a users inability to comprehend a reasonably straight forward sentence?
Obviously if you read my above post I know that it was my intent to use it for its intended purpose. My point being that every standing in the game can be altered with enough grinding, in this case , grinding by killing pods of bad players. this skill, irreversible, prevents a desired standing increase and thus should be altered. |
Caldari Citizen 1897289768188
State War Academy
Caldari State
184
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:27:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:"I should be compensated for being dumb."
No.
Dont think we have enough compensation.  |
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Setaceous
Nexus Prima
35
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:28:00 -
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Transmaritanus wrote:Setaceous wrote:Skill at interacting with Concord. 5% Bonus to effective security rating increase.
Should CCP change things to compensate for a users inability to comprehend a reasonably straight forward sentence? Obviously if you read my above post I know that it was my intent to use it for its intended purpose. My point being that every standing in the game can be altered with enough grinding, in this case , grinding by killing pods of bad players. this skill, irreversible, prevents a desired standing increase and thus should be altered.
You'll still get to -10. Just try harder. |
Sixx Spades
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
135
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:30:00 -
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Transmaritanus wrote:Setaceous wrote:Skill at interacting with Concord. 5% Bonus to effective security rating increase.
Should CCP change things to compensate for a users inability to comprehend a reasonably straight forward sentence? Obviously if you read my above post I know that it was my intent to use it for its intended purpose. My point being that every standing in the game can be altered with enough grinding, in this case , grinding by killing pods of bad players. this skill, irreversible, prevents a desired standing increase and thus should be altered.
Pod yourself in an Alpha Clone enough and you might get what you wish for.
Using a weapon as a deterrent in a diplomatic situation is only viable when you have proven that you have deployed it in the past and are willing to use it in the future. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
387
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:31:00 -
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Mad cuz you can't reach -10? WTF? |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
4521
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:56:00 -
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Transmaritanus wrote:So back when I was a highsec dweller (of which there are no benefits to being, other than hiding because violence is scary)
^ ^ ^ THIS was the point of his troll post, not the preposterous allegation about Fast Talk.
(For that matter, I have all Social Skills at Level 5 and still cannot get higher than 9.8 towards Ammatar Mandate no matter how many missions I run.)
There is much to be said in favour of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.-á-á-á-á - Oscar Wilde |
Ckra Trald
Stellar Essence
STELLAR CONSTELLATION
148
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Posted - 2013.04.23 21:56:00 -
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get typhoon
fill with smartbombs
undock at jita
/thread
^^ poorly made blunt forum post above ^^ |
CompleteFailure
Polaris Rising
Gentlemen's Agreement
24
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:22:00 -
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tl;dr - "I don't think I should have to live with the consequences of my decisions, so CCP should change the game in my favor (and give me my SP back in the process)."
No.
Kesper North for CSM8 |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
200
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:22:00 -
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Transmaritanus wrote:So back when I was a highsec dweller (of which there are no benefits to being, other than hiding because violence is scary) I used to roam in low-sec for actual fun in my life. At the time I had this wrong notion that a highsec was necessary, and thus trained Fast Talk to augment my sec status.
Well now that I've been hovering at -9.7 sec status for a while, and wondering how I still am not -10 after popping idiots in their pods. Well, It's that vistigial fast talk skill from ages ago!
I thought that the bonus was to battleship ratting increase, but instead it's for my sec status itself.
I wonder if CCP will consider removing this skill so that the badge of competency (being -10) can finally be worn by deserving capsuleers.
Thoughts?
The skill is meant for increasing your sec status. I think your confused on how it works. It isn't like connections skill, more like the social skill but affects sec status instead. If you want to get to -10 then obviously it of no use to you, but won't do you any harm either unless you rat all day. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
7694
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:25:00 -
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go ECM burst the jita undock
mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters
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Malcanis for CSM 8 |
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
1406
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:51:00 -
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Transmaritanus wrote:
I wonder if CCP will consider removing this skill so that the badge of competency (being -10) can finally be worn by deserving capsuleers.
+1 for the laugh.
Not going to happen of course, but I do like your take on things.
Sixx Spades wrote:
Pod yourself in an Alpha Clone enough and you might get what you wish for.
Brilliant! 
Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Didn't vote? Then you voted for NulBloc |
Ludi Burek
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
236
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Posted - 2013.04.24 00:10:00 -
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Fast skill at 5 is nice to have. When you are grinding sec up its effect is noticeable but if you're "accidentally" getting sec status increases just balance it out by popping a random pod here or there in high sec. |
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