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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.09.25 12:41:00 -
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Title says it all 
First person to disagree gets a free war dec courtesy of Dark-Cartel!
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2005.09.25 12:47:00 -
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i disagree!
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.09.25 12:50:00 -
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/signed
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2005.09.25 12:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Kehmor
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yea, couse the arguments are soo good! 
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Kjewla
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Posted - 2005.09.25 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
i disagree!
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.09.25 12:58:00 -
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Dannyy
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Posted - 2005.09.25 13:00:00 -
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We need a special forum for stuff like this
oh wait.
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Fester Addams
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Posted - 2005.09.25 13:06:00 -
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Yes it does but then so do all the ships.
The question is would it be unbalanced to give it more?
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.09.25 13:31:00 -
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Originally by: Fester Addams
Yes it does but then so do all the ships.
The question is would it be unbalanced to give it more?
no
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.09.25 14:06:00 -
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noes! ;p
i think its got enough cpu....
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M4W
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Posted - 2005.09.25 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: M4W on 25/09/2005 14:07:46
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Tekka
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Posted - 2005.09.25 14:08:00 -
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It was 7am and I am sick
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Slater Dogstar
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Posted - 2005.09.25 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Tekka
It was 7am and I am sick
Yes i agree you are sick to sujest ore cap for ravens
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2005.09.25 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Dimitri Chandler on 25/09/2005 16:35:52
no it doesn't
you can't go all tachs on an apoc without power problems so why should you have all siege on a raven with no problems?
if you want to fit it well, use cruise missiles
I fly a raven and don't want more CPU. There needs to be some challenge/limiting factor.
What I want is an implant that reduces CPU need on launchers rather than turrets.
Rattlesnake, however, does need more CPU.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.09.25 16:53:00 -
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I'm sorry Tekka, you would've got a 20% increase in raven CPU but you posted this in the wrong forum section. You have another chance in 2007.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.09.25 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Liu Kaskakka
I'm sorry Tekka, you would've got a 20% increase in raven CPU but you posted this in the wrong forum section. You have another chance in 2007.
Yes, 20% decrease for the posting error.
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.09.25 17:26:00 -
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CPU is fine, but ffs, give Caldari back their agility T_T
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Nira Li
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Posted - 2005.09.25 17:38:00 -
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Rexthor Hammerfists
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Posted - 2005.09.25 17:38:00 -
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cpu is tight, but ok - its the t2 stuff that does the overkill
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H0ot
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Posted - 2005.09.25 18:05:00 -
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While you're at it please give Scorpions a 5% Laser Turret RoF bonus. 
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.09.25 18:08:00 -
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Stop fitting cpu intensive WCS in low
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Sirial Soulfly
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Posted - 2005.09.25 18:35:00 -
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Just save up for a cn raven and get more cpu..
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.25 18:54:00 -
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ballistic control use 5 more cpu than other damage modules, that is the root of the problem tbh why cant bcu use the same cpu as heatsink, gryo, and mag stab? i dont get it
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:38:00 -
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also turrets get - cpu implants, please give launchers same :)
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:40:00 -
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ow common : 3siege and 3 cruise , full shield tank (with XL and amp) and full BCU isn't enough?
Maybe you want 6 siege , full tank , full bcu AND enough cpu to fit 2 nosses or something like that? How about 6 citadel launchers?
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws
ow common : 3siege and 3 cruise , full shield tank (with XL and amp) and full BCU isn't enough?
Maybe you want 6 siege , full tank , full bcu AND enough cpu to fit 2 nosses or something like that? How about 6 citadel launchers?
running 3 siege and 3 cruise is like uh.. running 3 pulse and 3 beams, why would you want to do that??
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Haggislander
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Stop fitting cpu intensive WCS in low
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.09.25 23:00:00 -
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Edited by: Kehmor on 25/09/2005 23:01:57
Originally by: RedClaws
ow common : 3siege and 3 cruise , full shield tank (with XL and amp) and full BCU isn't enough?
Maybe you want 6 siege , full tank , full bcu AND enough cpu to fit 2 nosses or something like that? How about 6 citadel launchers?
hahaha, and here was me thinking shield tanked megathrons were noobish
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.09.25 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Haggislander
Originally by: Dionysus Davinci
Stop fitting cpu intensive WCS in low
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WCS use less cpu than t2 balistic controls.
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Moridin
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Posted - 2005.09.26 00:11:00 -
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i agree. but then again Raven need¦s a lot of everything.
that is what i get for having caldari bs lvl5 and all Electroninc¦s skill lvl5. i have to do creative twist¦s for that uber setup.
then again i want to see u fit 4 siege 2 cruise 2 nos and a xl booster with 3 shield hardeners on ANY bs
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.09.26 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
ballistic control use 5 more cpu than other damage modules, that is the root of the problem tbh why cant bcu use the same cpu as heatsink, gryo, and mag stab? i dont get it
Wow really? That is really, really stupid then. Definatly should be the same across the board.
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.09.26 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: Jim Raynor
ballistic control use 5 more cpu than other damage modules, that is the root of the problem tbh why cant bcu use the same cpu as heatsink, gryo, and mag stab? i dont get it
Wow really? That is really, really stupid then. Definatly should be the same across the board.
Thats what i thought.... its just penalizing Missile users who shield tank and fit dmg mods... yea :/
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.09.26 00:54:00 -
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While you are at it, could you also drop the grid requirements on the armor reps to about 300 a piece?
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.09.26 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Jim Raynor
Originally by: RedClaws
ow common : 3siege and 3 cruise , full shield tank (with XL and amp) and full BCU isn't enough?
Maybe you want 6 siege , full tank , full bcu AND enough cpu to fit 2 nosses or something like that? How about 6 citadel launchers?
running 3 siege and 3 cruise is like uh.. running 3 pulse and 3 beams, why would you want to do that??
Because if you want to fit BCUs you can't fit sieges that require grid enhancement modules.
I run 3 arbie siege, 3 arbi cruise, 2 x 250mm Tech II (remember how everybody said before nerf we had to fit medium weapons?), Dread Gurista XL + amp, 3 hardeners, cap recharger, 4 BCU, 1 PDS II and my CPU is 0.5tf from the max available (874.5 on 875 if i remember correctly) with some powergrid left (like 900 or so).
Can't fit tech II sieges nor cruises nor BCUs with an already low damage setup, I would have to sacrifice another siege launcher.
Reason why it amazes me some deny the raven the opportunity to have 8 launcher hardpoints, one has to make sacrifices to fit weaponry anyway, like everybody else.
But yes, the raven lacks CPU, but there are nice co-pros out there, which of course means less BCUs, but damage mod stacking should go away, so all is fine (or should be).
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Posted - 2005.09.26 01:41:00 -
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yes they need more cap
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Rigsta
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Posted - 2005.09.26 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: Rigsta on 26/09/2005 02:12:53
The Raven's a bloody tough ship if you ask me.
Show me another ship that can fill all of its primary hardpoints with the largest weapons available and still fit a solid (rather than merely adequate) tank, AND damage mods.
Considering damage-enhancing modules seem to have been purposfully designed to share either resources or power slots with tanking modules I think this is a want more than a need.
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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.09.26 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: Jim Raynor
ballistic control use 5 more cpu than other damage modules, that is the root of the problem tbh why cant bcu use the same cpu as heatsink, gryo, and mag stab? i dont get it
Wow really? That is really, really stupid then. Definatly should be the same across the board.
Yeap, either fix the BCU's (best solution) or give more CPU...
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Megadon
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Posted - 2005.09.26 05:35:00 -
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Originally by: Stormfront
While you are at it, could you also drop the grid requirements on the armor reps to about 300 a piece?
You really aren't a reader are you? That was a great contribution.
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Rahnesch
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Posted - 2005.09.26 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral IceBlock
i disagree!
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Kehmor
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Posted - 2005.09.26 07:31:00 -
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the problem is the fact every single module used by the raven is cpu intensive. even PDU II's have a fair amount. The apoc on the other hand has some cpu intensive modules, and some powergrid ones. For example cap rechargers use next to no powergrid, and armor repairers use comparatively little cpu (compared to shield boosters).
How about we nerf the PG and add some CPU on the raven, would people be happy then? I know I would.
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Deka Kador
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Posted - 2005.09.26 07:37:00 -
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The mods are so strict on moderating everything that could possibly have any need of moderation so why hasn't this thread been moved to the correct forum?
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Deckert
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Posted - 2005.09.26 11:18:00 -
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I agree that the raven needs more cpu. If you are to fit 6 t2 seige and 3 t2 shield hardeners your cpu will be toast big time. But hey people will have to sacrifice isk the best named stuff to even put on the raven to lower the cpu on the mod. You should not have to go searching for named mods when the t2 mod should have the same attributes as its best named counter-part. That is screwed. but hey that is my thoughts. I am sure it will get flammed like everything else that is ever mentioned in these threads!
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2005.09.26 11:33:00 -
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LOL at this thread.
on a side note: The BCU should be brought into cpu line with laser/proj/hybrid damage mods.
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Redwolf
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Posted - 2005.09.26 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Deckert
I agree that the raven needs more cpu. If you are to fit 6 t2 seige and 3 t2 shield hardeners your cpu will be toast big time.
The raven is a t1 ship and was not designed to use a full compliment of t2 gear.
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Amber Barrett
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Posted - 2005.09.27 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Redwolf
Originally by: Deckert
I agree that the raven needs more cpu. If you are to fit 6 t2 seige and 3 t2 shield hardeners your cpu will be toast big time.
The raven is a t1 ship and was not designed to use a full compliment of t2 gear.
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Deka Kador
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Posted - 2005.09.27 18:47:00 -
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Originally by: Redwolf
Originally by: Deckert
I agree that the raven needs more cpu. If you are to fit 6 t2 seige and 3 t2 shield hardeners your cpu will be toast big time.
The raven is a t1 ship and was not designed to use a full compliment of t2 gear.
Which is true and all except t2 ships themselves appear not to have that much more CPU than their t1 counterparts (check the cpu usage of a t1 setup on a Vexor and check the cpu usage on a t2 setp on an Ishtar [or as close as possible as you can - there aren't t2 versions of all t2 mods yet] and you'll see the amount of cpu given to t2 ships does very little to negate the increase cpu on t2 modules).
Same goes for pg.
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Appetite
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Posted - 2005.09.27 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws
ow common : 3siege and 3 cruise , full shield tank (with XL and amp) and full BCU isn't enough?
Maybe you want 6 siege , full tank , full bcu AND enough cpu to fit 2 nosses or something like that? How about 6 citadel launchers?
Hmmm, OK! And maybe two more launcher slots with the PG and CPU to use them! Thanks!
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