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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Ticondrius on 25/09/2005 19:43:35
Just took me 11 minutes to undock. She cannea take much more capt'n!
For the record, there are over 350 piltos in the system at the moment. Avoid Oursulaert at all costs.
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Torquemanda Corteaz
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:44:00 -
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ive been waiting for my ship to warp to a station from stargate... been waiting for 10mins now
360 people in a single system is lethal to a node :x
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:45:00 -
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I'm waiting to warp from one station to another...I suppose there's some kind of warping request queue?
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:48:00 -
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LOL!
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Derron Bel
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:52:00 -
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Maybe they should turn the roid belts off.
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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:57:00 -
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initiate emergency evacuation 
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Taihira
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Posted - 2005.09.25 19:59:00 -
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as I click on the thread withthe warning... just as I jump into the system.
oh, damn. well, that's half an hour to read stuff online in, then.
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Haggislander
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:00:00 -
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Can someone tell me why that dump is so popular? The market sucks compared to jita.
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jennai on 25/09/2005 20:06:32
 Originally by: Haggislander
Can someone tell me why that dump is so popular? The market sucks compared to jita.
it's the largest market in gallente space, and there's a lot of agents. the market is better than yulai.
there were 370 in local about two hours ago and it wasn't nearly this laggy. now there's like 350 and it takes minutes to undock or warp.
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Xelios
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:08:00 -
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If that's true it sounds like a memory leak on the node for that system =/
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D'hara
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: D''hara on 25/09/2005 20:10:36
CCP should spread out the agents a little in the souronding systems. That system is just insane atm. Think im gonna move, or start doing missions in low-sec instead....
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:19:00 -
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CCP needs to introduce a max pilot cap for systems.
A maximum of 200 pilots possible per system. Allow 50 further pilots to log in.
Or decentralise further. Make Oursulaert harder accessable.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:24:00 -
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I remember when Oursulaert was an end system and never went over about 20 or so.
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Rendill
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:24:00 -
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Just move the agents.
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Banana Torres
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:25:00 -
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Well those folks that used to inhabit Yulai had to go somewhere. And the largest hub in Gallente space would seem to be a logical place to go.
So CCP can we have our highways back?
And before you make another futile atempt to make people disperse, maybe, perhaps, you could ask the people clogging up the hubs what would make them move.
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Jiggy
I remember when Oursulaert was an end system and never went over about 20 or so.
when was that? it was always a huge mission system as long as I remember.
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool
CCP needs to introduce a max pilot cap for systems.
A maximum of 200 pilots possible per system. Allow 50 further pilots to log in.
And then when the day comes that you can't log in because the system is full, and you are about 10 minutes away from a skill change, you will be back here complaining about it.
As for me, I am all of 4 jumps away from Jita, and there are about 6 people here and zero lag. I am sure that is the same situation 4 jumps in any direction from Oursulaert.
Though I agree about the layouts. Choke points need to be further addressed in the near future. But I am sure CCP has some more up their sleves than just the last gate changes to spread people out more. After all, look how long they were working on the 0.0 gate changes and boarder zones. Lets give them time, though I would like to see something on the development section if they have plans.
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:36:00 -
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It has more stations than our own capital. It has gobs of good level 1-3 agents. It has belts. It is 2 jumps from 2 major noob systems. It's also only 4 jumps from Yulai. Guess where most of Yulai's manufacturers went to....Oursulaert.
Also..there are "testing" stations in the system that have a 50% refinery, AND labs, AND factories. An industrial pilot's wet dream.
Oursulaert is also on the routes between other major systems in the galaxy.
Why do people congregate in certain systems? The autopilot. If pilots discover they fly through a system often...they will usualy make it their home and make shorter trips to their various locations of activity. The highways are never gone..they just get longer...and longer..and longer...as long as the autopilot keeps giving us the option to choose the shortest route.
Want to break up this trend CCP? Give us several routes between systems that are equidistant...and make the AP pick one at random when choosing a route by the use of "shortest route" option.
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jennai
Originally by: Jiggy
I remember when Oursulaert was an end system and never went over about 20 or so.
when was that? it was always a huge mission system as long as I remember.
Just after retail when very few people did agent missions as agents gave nothing worthwhile.
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:46:00 -
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Node is now truly dead.
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Apostle
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:47:00 -
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end of the world 
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Spathi
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:52:00 -
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WTS Charred remains of a Tranquility Node 
It was 350 when I was last in there and thankfully I got around without too much lag.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:57:00 -
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u no having more nodes concentrate on a large group of ppl in a few places is better then having every empire system populated and a node needed for one person every time. Its not like theres just 1 node assigned to every system, the more stress on a part more nodes will go help out.
Having someone in every system would be worse.
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Ticondrius
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Posted - 2005.09.25 20:57:00 -
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I jsut relogged and after 4-5 mins..loaded space and GOT THE HELL OUT OF DODGE...
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PrankMaster
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dao 2
u no having more nodes concentrate on a large group of ppl in a few places is better then having every empire system populated and a node needed for one person every time. Its not like theres just 1 node assigned to every system, the more stress on a part more nodes will go help out.
Having someone in every system would be worse.
I don't think a solar system can be handled by more than one node. That would be real load balancing of course and the ideal situation, but I wonder about what the inter-node communication would imply then. 'Local' chat room has to be divided amoung nodes, actions of a group of players residing on different nodes will cause inter-node traffic, etc...
Having multiple nodes handle one system would certainly solve the 'crowded system' problem, but the network has to be able to handle the extra messages then in a very short time, so you don't just move the lag to somewhere else in the cluster.
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: JoCool
CCP needs to introduce a max pilot cap for systems.
A maximum of 200 pilots possible per system. Allow 50 further pilots to log in.
Grieftastic!
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Or decentralise further. Make Oursulaert harder accessable.
You don't get it, do you? It's the attempts to "decentralise" which are centralising markets. You can't use a negative stick to spread markets out, ffs.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:13:00 -
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I just went thru there no probs \o/
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Mned Graydroggen
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:30:00 -
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hmm. I'm omw there, or was I gues
thnx for the heads up.
Peronaly I think the main issue with Ours is that it has ALOT of good agents of levels up to 4. Combat agents make a large portion of those, these causing the well known gate spawns, Seeing several spawns of different levels at the same gate is not unusual.
Moving the agents gets my vote as solution attempt
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sableye
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jennai
Originally by: Jiggy
I remember when Oursulaert was an end system and never went over about 20 or so.
when was that? it was always a huge mission system as long as I remember.
I rmeember when poor renyn next door was quite too.
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.09.25 21:36:00 -
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Im with Deja....
There are absolutley no probelms
/me removes ccp information minister beret.
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Siri Danae
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Posted - 2005.09.26 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Galk
There are absolutley no problems
/me removes ccp information minister beret.
Awesome. Oursulaert Bob.
Seriously, the thousand folks in Essence, and the 350 in Oursulaert specifically, are only two jumps from three different regions, with lots of good systems and half-decent markets. If you're not looking to buy a new megathron at a low price, why are you hanging out there?
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.09.26 04:01:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
As for me, I am all of 4 jumps away from Jita, and there are about 6 people here and zero lag. I am sure that is the same situation 4 jumps in any direction from Oursulaert.
Yulai is 4 jumps from Oursulaert.
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cheru
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Posted - 2005.09.26 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ticondrius
... It is 2 jumps from 2 major noob systems. ...
And the Tutorial missions lead new players there somehow. I donŠt remember the details, but I made Oursu my homesystem without knowing anything about market hubs, agent population and things like that, just because i knew an agent there already and had some stuff in one of the stations.
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Dimitri Chandler
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Posted - 2005.09.26 06:19:00 -
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Scolluzer and Alentene are almost as good to buy/sell things in.
Oursulaert is sooooo last week.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2005.09.26 06:59:00 -
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1. Make system to hold only 300 players. Deny more jumps to system. Find some scifi nonsense to cover this one up for like wormhole instability.
2. Make dynamic nodes, bigger node gets more server units to work on it.
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Madscotsman
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Posted - 2005.09.26 08:46:00 -
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I originally moved to Oursulaert when I started playing as the first agent in Bourynes sent me there. Over 18 months ago now.
I'm so glad I moved out a while back, although the vast majority of my junk is still there.
I remember when 50 peeps was a lot there LOL, but that was when it was all fields.....when I were a lad.
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Sirilonwe
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Posted - 2005.09.26 08:57:00 -
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Another things which makes sense is to remove the belts from each hub system. As a RP point of view, the belts have been depleted due to the enormous population of the system.
I think this would help a bit. (Ie 10-20 players that aren't in the system cause they were mining).
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Jennai
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Posted - 2005.09.26 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Kuolematon
1. Make system to hold only 300 players. Deny more jumps to system. Find some scifi nonsense to cover this one up for like wormhole instability.
travel times are long enough already without having to wait in a queue just to warp through a system.
oursulaert isn't really on the way to anything. the lag isn't caused by travellers passing through, it's from dozens of people running missions in system all the time.
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Emily Spankratchet
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Posted - 2005.09.26 10:23:00 -
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It's not just normal agents, it's the storyline agents. I have a nice agent in backwater system that's never very busy. I try to avoid Oursulaert as it's crowded hell-hole. Then a storyline mission comes around and... Gah, it's in Oursulaert.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.09.26 11:41:00 -
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thats what they said last time :S that they would move nodes to cover more ppl.... and that nodes dont start up unless theres someone there. but they said 'support' it i think, so i guess that would mean theres one main node on the system and the extra ones helping it out?
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Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2005.09.26 13:59:00 -
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Ours is very over crowded, I am forced to go there, as the best quality agent's avilbiley to me are all based there, the ones in the surouding region are all like -19, next to teh +18 in ours which end up beeing a +29 with my skils, means i ended up going to ours every time.
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Matthew Johnson
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:02:00 -
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One day they will have to split a single solar systems over several machines....will be hard coding. 
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Nostradamu5
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew Johnson
One day they will have to split a single solar systems over several machines....will be hard coding.
Nooo it's worse instead of proper capacity planning they just going to throw more hardware at it.
Seems like the Dev types are in charge of all systems activities.
Just wait till they get their "64" bit upgrade in place, then when the system has 1100 people at sheer gridlock you'll look apon the 360+ in system as the good 'ole days.
Yes I've been known to Target, Sling and serve up large portions of fecal matter.
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Galk
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Posted - 2005.09.26 18:09:00 -
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Originally by: Siri Danae
Seriously, the thousand folks in Essence, why are you hanging out there?
Wooooo there horsey...
I am of the galk, i tend to find the most secluded systems in eve.....
In other words i rarely go there.. I did ask this though to my alt corps ceo once, Why is that place so popular.....
Said something about a certain agent that was kingpin for the system sec....
Don't ask me, i don't subscibe to it, though sufice to say with the nwo.. where there is a lot of people... there's going to be a whole lot more setting up shop...
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.09.26 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Galk
Edited by: Galk on 25/09/2005 22:04:04
There are absolutley no problems
/me removes ccp information minister beret.
lol !!!
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SULAN BARHIR
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:57:00 -
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Edited by: SULAN BARHIR on 26/09/2005 20:57:35
let's go in suicide frigates and get rid of them all!
Oh, this is a warning, by the way.
Don't get in my Hit List. It's hard to get out.
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