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Uriel Strongbow
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Posted - 2005.09.26 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: Uriel Strongbow on 26/09/2005 14:14:06
A group of us in the southwest are coming together to form a new corporation, based around pirate hunting and bounty hunting.
Get your mining, trading, whatever on during your own time, no taxes. Self-reliant people who can afford to lose ships and the like and a streak of ôwhat the hell do I do with my cashö types.
No shared BPOs or other crap at first till we know each other better.
We got a couple of haulers and builders on board and a decent amount of capital. We are going to fund 8-10 tackling newbies once we get off the ground with a list of competent directors who arenÆt going to flake out after two fights.
Drones and all that built in house at less than cost. We have a covert ops scout.
IÆm posting here because we are currently throwing name and logo ideas back and forth to each other and arenÆt yet at the full fledged recruiting stage. Want some ground floor people to step up, and only from the ôfear the badgeö types that post or lurk in this forum.
WeÆll even take the poetry types, if they fight bad people with us and can laugh a lot.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:18:00 -
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Bounty hunter / pirate hunter profession is one of the hardest there is - at least if you try to make it a "full-time job" instead of just a hobby. Piracy is much more 'fun' since you have plenty of targets, whereas pirate hunters often find themselves blobbing one safespotting naughty boy.
Good luck anyway, not many dedicated pirate hunters around.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.09.26 15:49:00 -
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well be prepared to be bored out of ur mind.
the current EVE playerbase that is pirates are mostly cowards.. with the exceptions of some of the more well known pirates they have no intention of fighting you and would rather snipe at gates with 6 stabs fitted ...
u may get a fight if they hold total advantage either in numbers or can fit an "anti ur setup" fitting on their ship.. I know its not in their interest to fight pirate hunters, as their is no profit, but throw us a PVP bone plz.
Iv camped outside many a station in low sec space that is held by so called pirates.. they smack from inside about how uber they are, but are usually very unwilling to fight you... sometimes if they find the courage from somewhere they may undock with ECM ..
What im trying to say is, its a total waste of time and will not give u the PVP challenge or rush that u need as a PVPer.. i know this better than many ppl, as its all iv done in EVE, but lately OMG, zzzzzzzzzz.
folks complain that pirating has been nerfed, but bounty hunting/pirate hunting has NEVER been shown any love. Its a farce, this forum is for bounty hunters and their prey, but bounty hunting has no real role in EVE.. bounties are collected usually through chance, rather than by actual hunting some1 down.
anyways, just some friendly advice.
d solo.
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:09:00 -
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Totally agree with Darth...
Then you see the Cult of Cthulu vid and think...ooo not yet, still might be some fun in it.
Pirates are the biggest bunch of carebears ive ever seen  
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:12:00 -
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It's funny to see people call pirates cowards when a huge chunk of the 'Anti Pirate' community that say such things restrict themselves to ganking outlaws with big gangs at gates and stations where only one of them can fight back at a time (not a dig at anyone specifically there).
Gl with the corp!
 Originally by: James Lyrus
Complaining about PvP & Pirates in EVE is like complaining about the mines in minesweeper.
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kinsy
Totally agree with Darth...
Then you see the Cult of Cthulu vid and think...ooo not yet, still might be some fun in it.
Pirates are the biggest bunch of carebears ive ever seen
kinsy, kinsy, kinsy ....
people arnt going to fight you when you bring 3x the numbers down and camp a station with KOS pirates in
now if you came down in reasonable numbers you would get alot more fights
you have noone but yourself to blame if you arnt getting any action
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.09.26 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kinsy
Then you see the Cult of Cthulu vid and think...ooo not yet, still might be some fun in it.
ya well iv jumped into a few pirate gate camps with the cult in the past only to see all them pirates run for the hills. as they will prob confirm, pirate hunting is peesh.
ikvar, i aint saying all pirates are the same, some love nothing more than taking me on 1v1... but the vast majority are local chat smackers with very little ability. the word "pirate" is wasted on them.. Their is very few that are any good, and i dare say that also goes for bounty hunters.
d solo.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.09.26 17:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/09/2005 17:13:25
Originally by: Uriel Strongbow
Edited by: Uriel Strongbow on 26/09/2005 14:14:06
A group of us in the southwest are coming together to form a new corporation, based around pirate hunting and bounty hunting.
Hi, doesnt this sound similar to an alliance but instead of sa***uarding 0.0, you guys are sa***uarding 0.1-0.4, am I right?
Last I checked, Pyr8 hangs out around there with his friends. Happy hunting^^.
BTW, where do you get funds if you guys do all the protection and have more outgoings than incomings, donations (protection money) from the ppl that you are protecting?
Just curious. Have fun.
LOL. sa***uarding i.e. safe-guarding is a bad word?
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SugarDaddy
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Posted - 2005.09.26 17:20:00 -
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Originally by: Uriel Strongbow
Edited by: Uriel Strongbow on 26/09/2005 14:14:06
A group of us in the southwest are coming together to form a new corporation, based around pirate hunting and bounty hunting.
I think you are the guy who came to get me with 4 BS, 1 Ferox and some tacklers....too bad you didn¦t want to 1x1 me.....
GL with your new corp, since the majority off anti-pies dong go hunt pirates...
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Uriel Strongbow
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Posted - 2005.09.26 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Uriel Strongbow on 26/09/2005 17:32:30
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/09/2005 17:13:25
Originally by: Uriel Strongbow
Edited by: Uriel Strongbow on 26/09/2005 14:14:06
A group of us in the southwest are coming together to form a new corporation, based around pirate hunting and bounty hunting.
Hi, doesnt this sound similar to an alliance but instead of sa***uarding 0.0, you guys are sa***uarding 0.1-0.4, am I right?
Last I checked, Pyr8 hangs out around there with his friends. Happy hunting^^.
Yep, .1-.4 - and no territory ambitions really, just red people chasin'. Going to war dec the known groups to try to mitigate security loss as much as we can.
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BTW, where do you get funds if you guys do all the protection and have more outgoings than incomings, donations (protection money) from the ppl that you are protecting?
Self funded venture. We plan to go broke.
Seriously though, hit and fade operations. People who make their money via production/bpc sales or who play enough to get money when we aren't traveling in a wolf pack harrying baddies would be the best.
Ain't any profit in it.
 Security loss probable.
No territory to be gained.
Expectations of shepherding a newbie battle buddy once we bring on a recruiter type.
Monetary losses assured.
All you get is cheap ammo and the your battle buddy's ship and gear paid for, and a killmail every so often from a pirate.
But we'll run fraps, by gawd.
BTW - msg me in game if you want to jump on board, or your corp is lookin for a merger that means somethin. We want the one man corpers especially. A public relations/diplomat/recruiter type is needed too, you don't even have to fight if you can write well and sound nicer than us.
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Camador
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Posted - 2005.09.26 17:34:00 -
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I'm your huckleberry.
Were in the south of eve. come get some.
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Uriel Strongbow
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Posted - 2005.09.26 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Uriel Strongbow on 26/09/2005 17:38:32
Originally by: Camador
I'm your huckleberry.
Were in the south of eve. come get some.
You're already on our list sweetcakes.
*edit - I thought you snuck into Stain btw?
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Grimwalius d'Antan
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Posted - 2005.09.26 17:38:00 -
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Small numbers. You need small numbers if you wanna be able to fight anyone, wether they are friendly industrialists or pirates. Everytime we've been spreading death and destruction with more than 4 ships in the gang, people have just safespotted or docked whenever we show up. I really hope you're meeting success, as piracy can get a little slow at times and I'd rather shoot at someone who is willing to fight me.
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Lansfear
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Posted - 2005.09.26 17:47:00 -
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Agreed with Darth whole heartedly.
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Rasta Rocketman
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Posted - 2005.09.26 18:11:00 -
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First, gl with the new corp. It's good to see someone hunting pirates. My only word of advice, is that if you are actually looking for a fight...bring reasonable odds. I guarantee if you bring the typical 3:1 odds, you will get less PvP than you'd like.
2nd, to Darth. I can't speak for all pirates, but the few decent pirate corps that I've seen (much like any devoted PvP corps) like a good fight.
I guess it just depends on what these 'pirates' have chosen the piracy profession for. If they are pirating-for-isk only, then you won't get your fight. If they are pvp junkies, who simply chose piracy because of the abundance of targets...then you just might get your fight.
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Srewolf Bane
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Posted - 2005.09.26 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/09/2005 17:13:25
Originally by: Uriel Strongbow
Edited by: Uriel Strongbow on 26/09/2005 14:14:06
A group of us in the southwest are coming together to form a new corporation, based around pirate hunting and bounty hunting.
Hi, doesnt this sound similar to an alliance but instead of sa***uarding 0.0, you guys are sa***uarding 0.1-0.4, am I right?
Last I checked, Pyr8 hangs out around there with his friends. Happy hunting^^.
BTW, where do you get funds if you guys do all the protection and have more outgoings than incomings, donations (protection money) from the ppl that you are protecting?
Just curious. Have fun.
LOL. sa***uarding i.e. safe-guarding is a bad word?
lol... Alliances being compared to Pirates is just wrong, if you dont know the difference then why are you in an Alliance?
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.09.26 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Srewolf Bane
lol... Alliances being compared to Pirates is just wrong, if you dont know the difference then why are you in an Alliance?
Sighs...
If you have read carefully, I didnt compare *pirates* with alliance, I only implied that his *pirate hunting activities* in low-sec is like an alliance safe-guarding their turfs. In his case, he is safe-guarding potential victims from pirates in low secs. I do not see how I could have associated pirates with alliance. If I did, I am sorry. If I did not, I am also sorry for causing you to associate pirates with alliance. And yes I do know why I am in an Alliance.
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UltraDragon
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Posted - 2005.09.26 18:42:00 -
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hmm.. well if pirates are so much cowards try comming with even numbers and then you'll not say that pirates are cowards. Are pirates cowards coz they don't fight 2 to 6? Just pls stop calling us cowards. Just meet with fair numbes and you'll get a great fight.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2005.09.26 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 26/09/2005 18:53:24
Originally by: UltraDragon
hmm.. well if pirates are so much cowards try comming with even numbers and then you'll not say that pirates are cowards. Are pirates cowards coz they don't fight 2 to 6? Just pls stop calling us cowards. Just meet with fair numbes and you'll get a great fight.
Just a comment, no, not at all. I do not think pirates are coward. It is just human nature of self presevation (when you can lose significant amount of things, e.g. life; in Eve, time), that one decides to fight when odds are never equal. I have yet to see a war where it is fought equally, need to say street fights, or any other fight.
My 2 cents.
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Mardonius
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Posted - 2005.09.26 19:30:00 -
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Originally by: darth solo
well be prepared to be bored out of ur mind.
the current EVE playerbase that is pirates are mostly cowards.. with the exceptions of some of the more well known pirates they have no intention of fighting you and would rather snipe at gates with 6 stabs fitted ...
u may get a fight if they hold total advantage either in numbers or can fit an "anti ur setup" fitting on their ship.. I know its not in their interest to fight pirate hunters, as their is no profit, but throw us a PVP bone plz.
I don't know much about this, but I think it is common sense. But I have been camped a few times at a station.
One time I was in an Incursus, and they were an Enyo and a Scorp. At the time I had implants. They were swearing at me and saying "undock undock!". So I just walked away from the PC and watched "The Incredibles". When I came back the tards were still there.
People will only engage at will if they think they can win. So camping a station with three times their numbers is just plain stupid. There's no way they're going to undock is there? A better plan would be to have some tanked ships and some tacklers camping the station. A modest amount that could pass for a camping squad, but still very light. Then in a neighbouring system have a gank squad. That would work much better than camping a station with gankageddons and yelling undock and calling them chicken.
Also, a tactic I think would work would be just to get a gang together of about 4-5 frigates/interceptors. Fit a few of them with EW such as Target Ruptors and Sensor Dampeners (Maulus with Nosferatus FTW) for good measure, and a few interceptors for damage and tackling, and chase the pilots down through the gates. You could pick on solo pirates and outrun them.
Would these ideas work? If so why has nobody tried them?
Camping pirates does not work. They will just watch holoreels and make use of the exotic dancers in their cargo holds. |
Mardonius
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Posted - 2005.09.26 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Uriel Strongbow
Edited by: Uriel Strongbow on 26/09/2005 14:14:06
A group of us in the southwest are coming together to form a new corporation, based around pirate hunting and bounty hunting.
Best of luck to you. Nice to see someone stake a stand.
Just some ideas. It would probably be better, to remain unincorporated. What I mean is, don't create a corp called "We gank pirates" and have everyone join that (or whatever you decide to call it). Your idea is already rather unsubtle, but I realise that this is necessary for recruitment. Also it is worth keeping in mind that whilst most people are willing to fight pirates, they may be unwilling to leave their corp. Keep in mind that most pirates who read this forum will now know who you are, and your intentions. It could be a few weeks before they forget (depending on their memory).
So it would be better if you and your cronies created a channel, and used this channel to co-ordinate yourselves. This way, when your gang enters local it is much less likely to attract suspicion as a gank squad. Also, this would be a good preliminary phase for establishing trust with your team mates. Later on, when you are can bathe yourself in the blood of pirates, creating your own corp would then be a much better prospect.
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Mardonius
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Posted - 2005.09.26 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Uriel Strongbow
Edited by: Uriel Strongbow on 26/09/2005 14:14:06
WeÆll even take the poetry types, if they fight bad people with us and can laugh a lot.
How could I miss this!?!
My corp has disbanded a long time ago. I just haven't got around to leaving it  . So I am considering my career opportunities. |
Catori Fala
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:02:00 -
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Darth.. since when was refusing to engage a superior force in an unnecessary battle cowardice? Is a lone pilot a coward for refusing to run a heavy gate camp? Sounds like common sense to me, glad your not giving my orders.
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NoLock LetsNegociate
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Posted - 2005.09.26 20:08:00 -
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Suggestion
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.09.26 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Catori Fala
Darth.. since when was refusing to engage a superior force in an unnecessary battle cowardice? Is a lone pilot a coward for refusing to run a heavy gate camp? Sounds like common sense to me, glad your not giving my orders.
i am myself mostly when i do this. they know who they are.
d solo.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:13:00 -
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First, good luck with your corp
Originally by: Srewolf Bane
lol... Alliances being compared to Pirates is just wrong, if you dont know the difference then why are you in an Alliance?
Pirates do what they do out in the open. People like you blob and gank neutrals because they might be licking the roids you love so much. Summed it up?
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:14:00 -
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The not-fighting-unless-its-5on1 argument goes both ways. There's scum in both camps.
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Vulkan0
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Posted - 2005.09.26 22:34:00 -
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As a pirate I fight for profit, bugger if I am going to take on 3-4 pilots at once with just me, there is no profit in that , just suicide.
I hit things which I think will bring either good loot or ransom, if I think there is a good chance I will win.And I will run from a superior force/setup....lame...for you?yes...for me?no.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
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Posted - 2005.09.27 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Mardonius
Camping pirates does not work. They will just watch holoreels and make use of the exotic dancers in their cargo holds.
That's going in my bio the minute I login tomorrow!
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Gyrn Fzirth
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Posted - 2005.09.27 04:23:00 -
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Originally by: Catori Fala
Darth.. since when was refusing to engage a superior force in an unnecessary battle cowardice? Is a lone pilot a coward for refusing to run a heavy gate camp? Sounds like common sense to me, glad your not giving my orders.
There are different types of superiority.
1) Numerical
This is obvious. Bring more ships to the fight and you have a better chance of coming out on top. Too many ships will almost guarantee you won't get a fight though, so balance is crucial.
2) Tactical
Great tactics will win over superior numbers many times. If there are a couple of campers at 170km with sniping battleships and you get a covert ops close to them, you can warp in a single close range pwnage ship and take down the lot of them, assuming you can keep them in place. ECM, sensor dampeners, bait ships there are literally dozens of options. Oh yeah, tactics baby!
3) Mechanical
Better equipment can translate to more wins. Ie: tech 2 blasters vs tech 1, officer mods, bigger ships etc. It's VERY important to note that pretty much everything has a countermeasure, so know what you have and how to use it.
4) Pilots
This is the single largest differentiator in battles. If you have GREAT pilots you can engage pretty much anything with a reasonable expectation of coming out on top.
All of these types of superiority have their strengths and weaknesses. Just remember that bigger is not always better, more is not always enough and these are only little pixels on a screen - bits in a database! Engage!
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