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Roime
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Shinjiketo
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Posted - 2013.05.14 10:12:00 -
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Roids and ice and all this stuff is surely interesting to some people, but what about the drone fixes?
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Roime
Ten Thousand Years
Shinjiketo
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Posted - 2013.05.14 17:21:00 -
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Xylorn Hasher wrote:
There is a big problem. This change will kill mining in WH. As they will have completly no chancess to escape.
If your wh mining op security relies on seeing probes on dscan and then warping out, you are doing it terribly wrong.
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Roime
Ten Thousand Years
Shinjiketo
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Posted - 2013.05.15 18:00:00 -
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Skex Relbore wrote:
Worm holers get doubly screwed because they tend to lack the intel assets that null sec or even low sec folks have, Not only will they lack intel channels to track hostiles on approach, they don't even have local to know if someone is in their system. They are left with pretty much 0 way to mitigate their risk changing their activity from one where they can exercise some measure of skill to protect themselves to a question of pure luck. This change will result in fewer players taking that chance and thus reduce the number of potential targets available to shoot.
Yeah, that's why the wormhole folks never do PVE in multibillion T3 and blinged capital fleets, there's absolutely no way to know if hostiles are coming!
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Roime
Ten Thousand Years
Shinjiketo
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Posted - 2013.05.16 06:15:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote:
Exactly the point. If the w-space combat sites were moved to anomalies you would not see blinged out mutibillion isk T3's running them. Currently they have that security of needing to be scanned down. The warning is the fact that those activities ARE done in sites that have to be scanned down. You know when someone is coming, because you see them, or their probes on D-scan. Not to mention you are in a combat ship and can some what defend yourself when they do come.
Good morning Bugsy,
Wormhole combat sites are in fact anomalies and don't need to be scanned down. There are sigs too, but anomalies are the bread and butter.
Warning is not the probes, unless you are ******** and willing to die.
Quote:On the flip side, when mining in W-space D-scan is the only intel/protection tool you have, other than mutiboxing scouts on the incoming holes. Moving grav sites to anomalies removes that single layer of warning/intel a W-space miner has. If this happens W-space mining will stop.
Exactly. like you said, you need to watch the existing holes, and keep probes out for new ones. There is no difference in securing a PVE or a mining op. The single layer of warning is when hostiles enter your system. If you let them do their thing long enough to start probing, they are in control of the situation.
Anyway, mining in wormholes is a niche thing due to the fact that grav sites are painfully rare. I've lived in C2s, C3s, and C5s and none of the holes spawned gravimetric at any profitable or steady rate, more like once or twice a month.
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