Albercheck
Crossfire Incorporated
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
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Posted - 2013.04.29 06:55:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Quote:
Best example is the Amarr Militia and Fweddit. Fweddit has a massive amount of kills and PVPs all the time. Yet the minmatar are (were) winning the warzone due to broken farming mechanics.
My initial response was to this quote above. Using a corporation who station camps their non-FW high sec gate as an example of how FW is screwed up is laughable. (We should be winning, we pvp more!, lol) The rest... yeah CCP should do something, but it's not the end of the Eve universe if they don't.
Yet, Fweddit last week scored the 2nd most kills out of every [non-npc] Faction Warfare corporation -- In Exile was first place. And, upon a closer examination of the killboards, virtually zero of those FW kills happened in Egghelende. So, I think your initial notion is incorrect. Egghelende kills account for a large amount of iWhip kills for sure, but obviously Fweddit & Company PvP outside of Egghelende.
Moreover, did you consider the lack of FW kills could perhaps be due to Eve's rampant risk aversion? Yesterday I plexed in a hull tanked, auto-cannon bantam. Yet, on two separate occasions, I warped into a plex with a single enemy Minmatar inside. The Minmatar warps out even with no one else in local. This isn't a typical "ONLY MINMATAR ARE PUSSIES" rant, but just showing that just because some groups may be "lacking" kills does not mean they are not actively trying to look for kills.
Even further, do you know how difficult it can be for a larger group like Fweddit to get a fun-sized skirmish? Fweddit can regularly roll with 40+ pilots, but will [understandably] rarely find a tango partner. In my experience, the decently sized skirmishes actually come mostly from neuts, local pirates, or the occasional visiting 0.0 entities. This isn't meant to be a bash at other Minmatar FW organizations, but I think speaks to the larger point raised in this (and many other threads) that larger, more militaristic muscle does not necessarily equate to Factional Warfare success. And, in my opinion, such muscle should actually equate to Factional Warfare success.
Instead, Factional Warfare success seems to involve coordinating a mass-scale effort orbiting beacons for 15+ minutes and upgrading systems every once in a while. If you're doing it right, you are actually trying to minimize conflict so you can complete more plexes. This sort of success is noteworthy considering the scale, but does not necessarily speak to "Warfare" part of Factional Warfare. Thus, in its current form, Faction Warfare seems to be a bit of a misnomer.
Edit: Source for statement in first paragraph: https://api.eveonline.com/eve/FacWarTopStats.xml.aspx |