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Millenium Darkcloud
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2013.04.28 12:57:00 -
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Something must be about the titans, they are by far the most expensive ship in eve, you must have a high skill char inside it all the time,and what the results you take back? only bridging and ship hauling,thats it, to have an 100+ bill ship for only that reason? and not only that, this ship can do anything if something goes wrong to protect it self against a ship 2500 times cheaper, it sounds redicilous. also the phrase "turrets fitted to this ship will do reduced damage to small targets" sounds hilarious if you think that titans and dreads use the same guns.
ok now all of you think thats im saying "giving back the old tracking titans" , yea that be could be great but i believe that returning back times it will not solve anything,just cause more problems.
Also they are immune to all forms of electronic warfare, but still they cant do anything inside of a bubble.
and finally titans are the absolute weapon againts capilals so must remain that.
Im proposing the follow :
1. titans and motherhip to be immune also to bubles of dictors and hictors, to catch them we must use a capital warp disruptor/capital warp disruption filed generatos (with a decent range ex.50 km) which can be fitted only in capitals ships.
2. To be immune also to sub cap energy neutralizers,so im telling about the creation also of capital energy neutralizers which can be used only from capital ships
3. Reduse their guns sig radius from 2000 -----> 1000 , so they continue to do reduse damage to smaller targets but if someone used them in good numbers can change a fight ( ex. fleet A and fleet B ,fleet A has field 300 bil value ships and fleet B 2 tril [more numbers or a lot of titans], fleet B must have a better chance to win this fight.
What will change if that things happen :
a. if someone wants to catch and kill a titan or a motherhip his entity must field some caps, so scaps arent anymore defenseless as they are right now against a hictor or a dictor, but now they have a small opportunity to escape, b.if a titan has tackled their allies must field caps to rescue it,not just a 20-30 man subcap fleet to kill the dictor/hictos and so the titan can escape. c normal capitals have now more uses (esp. carriers) d. to be mandatory their use for sov grinding or sov defense, so more caps and scaps on field -----> MORE dead scaps ( i dont remeber how much time have to see a titan killmail )
SO give a reason to the owners of that ships to use them again (and loose them in action) than to forgot them in an account which has expired |

DelBoy Trades
Trotter Independent Traders.
543
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:02:00 -
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I agree that titans are underpowered, but your proposed changes are pretty preposterous. Damn nature, you scary! |

Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Nulli Legio
374
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:04:00 -
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I am in favour of buffing titan damage against subcaps but other than that most of your arguments are flawed as they would essentially render titans immune to subcaps. Besides capital hics would simply get dd'd. Titans SHOULD have a subcap support fleet with them to defend them.
"to be mandatory their use for sov grinding or sov defense, so more caps and scaps on field -----> MORE dead scaps ( i dont remeber how much time have to see a titan killmail )"
We need a lower barrier of entry into the sov game not a higher one. This proposal would in effect make it impossible for smaller alliances who lack titans to make ANY headway in nullsec.
I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1313
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:04:00 -
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Nerf them, allow them to dock, reduce build cost, and be done with it.
[url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=206023&find=unread[/url] |

BadAssMcKill
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
225
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:05:00 -
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I'm thinking maybe no Starships were meant to fly~
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Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:06:00 -
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Millenium Darkcloud wrote:Something must be about the titans, Get rid of them...
Quote:SO give a reason to the owners of that ships to use them again (and loose them in action) The 9283rd post in forum that someone spells lose as loose. 99.99999% of English speakers can't get it right... |

Pepper Mind
The Scope Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:09:00 -
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Titans aren't that cool, otherwise everyone would have one??? |

Millenium Darkcloud
Spricer Raiden.
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:11:00 -
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Christopher AET wrote:I Besides capital hics would simply get dd'd.
the 1st of them ,so you will need more than one
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13914
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:12:00 -
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1. Hell no. Subcaps being a real (and even required) threat to caps is in there for a good reason. 2. Hell no. For the same reason as above: subcaps are meant to be the supercaps' worst enemy GÇö too small to hit, to numerous to kill, and thus forcing the ship to travel with escort. 3. No. 2000 is plenty to hit the kind of targets the Titan is supposed to fight.
a. GÇ£Must have caps to fight capsGÇ¥ is horrible game design GÇö it was actively removed because the made the gameplay horrid and one-sided. b. same as a. c. Not really, no. d. GǪin other words, the only ones that can take sov is those who have sov. Yay staticness.
Millenium Darkcloud wrote:and not only that, this ship can do anything if something goes wrong to protect it self against a ship 2500 times cheaper, it sounds redicilous. Sounds like good balancing where bigger isn't better.
Brooks Puuntai wrote:Nerf them, allow them to dock, reduce build cost, and be done with it. Much better idea. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

MrDiao
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:13:00 -
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Let the titans can only owned by corporation like a pos, and functions like mobile station that people can dock, make clone and manufacture stuff , and also can get into reinforcement.
Literal destroyable station. Check. People won't flee asserts to NPC station. Check |
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
1494
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:15:00 -
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With all the bad ideas clogging up GD, one could come to belief F&I were filled with only brilliant stuff. Sovereignty and Population Moulds and water for the sandbox. |

Pepper Mind
The Scope Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:20:00 -
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You should only be allowed to step into a Titan, if you are able to write the story of your character in a nicely way (Roleplay-Style!). |

Princess Saskia
Hyperfleet Industries xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
2303
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:25:00 -
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I propose they implement a new capital ship that blap's sub-capital ships. An Anti subcap cap if it were. FANFEST Lottery |

Inari Visas
ROC Academy The ROC
9
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:26:00 -
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Sorry if the question is noobish, but why can't titans fit smaller turrets? |

Nex apparatu5
Friendship is Podding Test Alliance Please Ignore
496
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:39:00 -
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Brooks Puuntai wrote:Nerf them, allow them to dock, reduce build cost, and be done with it.
Price isnt a balancing factor, so essentially what you're saying is take a terrible, broken ship, nerf it, then give it the ability to dock.
At that point, might as well remove them from the game. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13915
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:45:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Brooks Puuntai wrote:Nerf them, allow them to dock, reduce build cost, and be done with it. Price isnt a balancing factor, so essentially what you're saying is take a terrible, broken ship, nerf it, then give it the ability to dock. At that point, might as well remove them from the game. Nah. They still have special abilities that add to the game, so there's no redundancy, and thus no reason to remove them. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

Mavros Pete
Symbolic.
0
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:52:00 -
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Quote:Let the titans can only owned by corporation like a pos, and functions like mobile station that people can dock, make clone and manufacture stuff , and also can get into reinforcement.
Sure, let them anchor as station, allow them to portal fleets as long as u feed em topes, in 'station mode' give em old school DD to counter hell camps. If u want to dock in null sec, ull have to anchor a ***** and be able to defend it. Null sec was all about increased risk and reward.
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ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate S0UTHERN C0MF0RT
1280
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:53:00 -
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Princess Saskia wrote:I propose they implement a new capital ship that blap's sub-capital ships. An Anti subcap cap if it were.
I agree. It could be called some sort of "fearship"... or maybe "dreadnought"? Of course the guns should have pretty poor tracking so you'd need to adjust your fit to compensate for the size/mobility of subcaps. Perhaps fit some kind of "following calculator"... or "tracking computer"?
Can you see where this is going yet? Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13917
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:55:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Princess Saskia wrote:I propose they implement a new capital ship that blap's sub-capital ships. An Anti subcap cap if it were. I agree. It could be called some sort of "fearship"... or maybe "dreadnought"? Of course the guns should have pretty poor tracking so you'd need to adjust your fit to compensate for the size/mobility of subcaps. Perhaps fit some kind of "following calculator"... or "tracking computer"? Can you see where this is going yet? Pff! Stop being so unrealistic. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.-á |

Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1313
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Posted - 2013.04.28 13:57:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:
At that point, might as well remove them from the game.
I wouldn't mind that.
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
732
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:16:00 -
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Never gonna happen.
Suck it up and actually play the game without an instant win button. |

Daimon Kaiera
Kraken.
246
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:21:00 -
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Doc Severide wrote:Millenium Darkcloud wrote:Something must be about the titans, Get rid of them... Quote:SO give a reason to the owners of that ships to use them again (and loose them in action) The 9283rd post in forum that someone spells lose as loose. 99.99999% of English speakers can't get it right...
I don't even get what's so hard about it.
When you lose some spelling knowledge that was probably already loose in your head, it effects an atmosphere around you that affects the mood of people who do care about this spelling; they're actually over there right now with their opinions laughing. But at whom are they laughing? It is you; the one who cannot spell.
I cannot create meaningful sentences whilst trying to include all of these words. who/whom/they're/their/there/effect/affect/lose/loose. .... . .-.. .--. / .. / .... .- ...- . / ..-. .- .-.. .-.. . -. / .- -. -.. / .. / -.-. .- -. -. --- - / --. . - / ..- .--. / ... - --- .--. - .... .. ... / ... .. --. -. .- - ..- .-. . / .. -.. . .- / .. ... / -. --- - / ... - --- .-.. . -. / ... - --- .--. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
147
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:29:00 -
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Having some kind of capital bubble that can only be used to catch capital ships is interesting... |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7710
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:33:00 -
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apparently titans are broken unless you can use them to counter literally every imaginable fleet composition from frigate gangs to capitals to smaller supercapital fleets
any less than that and nobody is going to use them and titans will never, ever die mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters [url]http://themittani.com/[/url]: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7710
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Posted - 2013.04.28 14:33:00 -
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This Is What Raiden Believes mine quotes from my posts at your peril, badposters [url]http://themittani.com/[/url]: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. |
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2186

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Posted - 2013.04.28 15:01:00 -
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Moving this from General Discussion to Features and Ideas. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Beaver Retriever
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
60
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Posted - 2013.04.28 15:55:00 -
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And this, friends, is why Raiden is utterly irrelevant - their complete lack of a) grasp on reality and b) capability to adapt. |

Xolve
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1364
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Posted - 2013.04.28 16:35:00 -
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Millenium Darkcloud wrote:SO give a reason to the owners of that ships to use them again (and loose them in action) than to forgot them in an account which has expired
CCP can't make changes giving you or your alliance mates the balls to actually use them.
Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |

Luke Hammarskjold
Seventh Heaven's Retinue Dominatus Atrum Mortis
5
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Posted - 2013.04.28 16:59:00 -
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Well, I agree with the poster that the titans atm are just pittyful. Eve should be more about quality than quantity. |

Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
1132
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Posted - 2013.04.28 20:51:00 -
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Millenium Darkcloud wrote:Something must be about the titans, they are by far the most expensive ship in eve, you must have a high skill char inside it all the time,and what the results you take back? only bridging and ship hauling,thats it, to have an 100+ bill ship for only that reason? and not only that, this ship can do anything if something goes wrong to protect it self against a ship 2500 times cheaper, it sounds redicilous. also the phrase "turrets fitted to this ship will do reduced damage to small targets" sounds hilarious if you think that titans and dreads use the same guns.
ok now all of you think thats im saying "giving back the old tracking titans" , yea that be could be great but i believe that returning back times it will not solve anything,just cause more problems.
Also they are immune to all forms of electronic warfare, but still they cant do anything inside of a bubble.
and finally titans are the absolute weapon againts capilals so must remain that.
Im proposing the follow :
1. titans and motherhip to be immune also to bubles of dictors and hictors, to catch them we must use a capital warp disruptor/capital warp disruption filed generatos (with a decent range ex.50 km) which can be fitted only in capitals ships.
2. To be immune also to sub cap energy neutralizers,so im telling about the creation also of capital energy neutralizers which can be used only from capital ships
3. Reduse their guns sig radius from 2000 -----> 1000 , so they continue to do reduse damage to smaller targets but if someone used them in good numbers can change a fight ( ex. fleet A and fleet B ,fleet A has field 300 bil value ships and fleet B 2 tril [more numbers or a lot of titans], fleet B must have a better chance to win this fight.
What will change if that things happen :
a. if someone wants to catch and kill a titan or a motherhip his entity must field some caps, so scaps arent anymore defenseless as they are right now against a hictor or a dictor, but now they have a small opportunity to escape, b.if a titan has tackled their allies must field caps to rescue it,not just a 20-30 man subcap fleet to kill the dictor/hictos and so the titan can escape. c normal capitals have now more uses (esp. carriers) d. to be mandatory their use for sov grinding or sov defense, so more caps and scaps on field -----> MORE dead scaps ( i dont remeber how much time have to see a titan killmail )
SO give a reason to the owners of that ships to use them again (and loose them in action) than to forgot them in an account which has expired
I, too, think that a return to the days of 'they're logging in titans, stand the fleet down' would be a good idea. After all, it's not like supcap pilots are actually people or anything, right?  |
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