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Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:45:00 -
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I have some problems with my Station Services and (Space) Overview windows since the last patch.
They both do not retain the set size and position though both are pinned.
My Station Services are supposed to be quite broad over the right side of the screen, but after each dock appear tiny (yet not minimized) in the lower right corner.
The Overview window is set to cover about half of the screen height, but appears equally small in the upper right corner.
I can live with it, but dragging these to size after each dock/undock will be a nuissance over time.
Thanks for ship spinning btw. 
There's nothing worse than leaving a bad looking corpse |
Eve Orwell
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:28:00 -
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Aldan Romar wrote:I have some problems with my Station Services and (Space) Overview windows since the last patch. They both do not retain the set size and position though both are pinned. My Station Services are supposed to be quite broad over the right side of the screen, but after each dock appear tiny (yet not minimized) in the lower right corner. The Overview window is set to cover about half of the screen height, but appears equally small in the upper right corner. I can live with it, but dragging these to size after each dock/undock will be a nuissance over time. Thanks for ship spinning btw.
I'm having this same issue, its really annoying |
Christmas OnFIre
Team of Programmers
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:28:00 -
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I'm having the exact same problem as well. |
Mukirana
Crimoria Co
Vera Cruz Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:41:00 -
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Same problem here.
I've created a petition.
Waiting the problem to be solved. |
Mortis Betruger
Senex Legio
Get Off My Lawn
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:59:00 -
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Yes same here. I forgot how bad the window thing used to be. I would rather have the door than this window crap again. |
Friedward Schnorch
Catastrophic Failures
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:02:00 -
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Same problem here too |
Vigoth Ritic
Frozen Corpse Inc.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:03:00 -
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yep same, good testing patch ccp. make new bugs LV5 |
Daniel Souquel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:09:00 -
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This bug has to do with the ship-spinning, it only happens in spinning mode and after switching back to CQ. Just stick with the CQ, it runs a bit better than pre patch, and wait for a patch xD |
Musashibou Benkei
Combined Imperial Fleet
JIHADASQUAD
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:10:00 -
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while it's not "emergency dock" friendly, there is a way to make sure this doesn't happen.
before you dock, minimize everything that might overlap with your station services tab such as overview, selected item, drones etc.
and before you undock, minimize the station services tab like you do with the others. this way, they don't overlap at any point and will retain their original dimensions |
Kimli
The Directive
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:06:00 -
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Musashibou Benkei wrote:while it's not "emergency dock" friendly, there is a way to make sure this doesn't happen.
before you dock, minimize everything that might overlap with your station services tab such as overview, selected item, drones etc.
and before you undock, minimize the station services tab like you do with the others. this way, they don't overlap at any point and will retain their original dimensions
Except were not supposed to do that, but yes it is a nice work around, but you try remembering that on your 4 active accounts you jump around most of the day doing stuff, its quite annoying, but i hope there will be a fix for it in the future, and before they took ship spinning out, it wasnt a problem before. |
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Musashibou Benkei
Combined Imperial Fleet
JIHADASQUAD
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:10:00 -
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Kimli wrote:Musashibou Benkei wrote:while it's not "emergency dock" friendly, there is a way to make sure this doesn't happen.
before you dock, minimize everything that might overlap with your station services tab such as overview, selected item, drones etc.
and before you undock, minimize the station services tab like you do with the others. this way, they don't overlap at any point and will retain their original dimensions Except were not supposed to do that, but yes it is a nice work around, but you try remembering that on your 4 active accounts you jump around most of the day doing stuff, its quite annoying, but i hope there will be a fix for it in the future, and before they took ship spinning out, it wasnt a problem before.
Yes, I agree that it's not a great workaround at all but it's the only thing i can think of and that process is a lot less hassle than resizing 3 windows each time i undock.
CCP really should've picked up on this at the testing stage. it's a pretty damn easy bug to pick up on...... |
Del Jouhannen
Delphinian Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:17:00 -
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Musashibou Benkei wrote:
CCP really should've picked up on this at the testing stage. it's a pretty damn easy bug to pick up on......
You're assuming there IS a 'testing stage'. As far as I can tell from experiencing CCP's development process, they skip that part. |
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GM Karidor
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
466
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:19:00 -
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Please check if the "Reset All Window Positions" within the "Reset Settings" tab of the game options helps the windows to remember their settings properly after you've reorganized them.
GM Karidor | Senior Game Master |
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Kallie Tane
Coffee Lovers Brewing Club
Care Factor
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:19:00 -
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I get this as well.
Daniel Souquel wrote:This bug has to do with the ship-spinning, it only happens in spinning mode and after switching back to CQ. Just stick with the CQ, it runs a bit better than pre patch, and wait for a patch xD Like he says, if you switch back to CQ view, it doesn't seem to happen. |
Bienator II
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
194
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:20:00 -
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reset window positions. this worked for me. all stayed where i put it so far after reset
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Bienator II
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
194
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:26:00 -
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well. at least it worked for a few docking attempts. now its back... so resetting the stuff didn't fix it.
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Ashvul
XenoTech
The Fonz Presidium
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:32:00 -
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Checking off Lock Windows When Pinned and changing snap distance to Don't Snap seemed to work for me after pinning all the windows. |
Ashvul
XenoTech
The Fonz Presidium
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:32:00 -
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Double lag post. |
Axel Greye
Nova Ardour
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:38:00 -
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Work Around: Moving your station services window to another part of your screen, an area where your overview does not occupy when you are undocked.
The issue lies in the overlap as mentioned earlier, but minimizing all the time is a hassle. Moving the station services to say for example, the middle of your screen whilst docked, stops your overview windows from resizing and repositioning when you undock. |
Sellendis
The Ares project
13
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:53:00 -
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Same problem here, clearing cache and resetting windows position didn't help. Damn windows keep resizing and moving.
CCP patch this pls :) |
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Ejit
STD contractors
8
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:04:00 -
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Myself and corp mates are all experiencing this problem. Resetting default window position didn't do a thing! |
Manu Intiraymi
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:48:00 -
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I have the same window problem as the others describe before me
I have reset my windows to no avail.
I put my station windows in my preferred size and position, undock - dock, and then e.g. the Station Services window has resized itself again.
Same accounts for Overview. Undock put window in proper position, dock - undock, and then the overview window is on another location again :(
Please fix. |
Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:49:00 -
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The workaround works, thanks for that.
And thanks for those who tried to reset window positions - I was reluctant to do that because I would have had to rebuild a hundred or so container windows...
I hope CCP finds a solution soon 
Chribba: null-sec is scary!
Surfin's PlunderBunny: I think lowsec is scarier... spent about 5 hours in null and saw one other person in that time. We spent over an hour trying to out afk-cloak each other |
Sikrala
Omni-InternOps
2
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:06:00 -
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FISRT:
big thanks to ccp for bring back the good old spinning ship station view !!!
no more stupid "door"!
BUT:
same bug here. station service window - docked, and overview window and drone window - in space,
they doesnt remember their position or size!!
fix this official please
a big thx and a few no-thanks
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Psychophantic
77
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:30:00 -
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Same problem, any word on if it's going to be fixed?
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Humphreys Stig
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 23:26:00 -
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I'm having the same problems even after I've reset the windows as suggested.
They just don't want to remember where I've put them. |
Mirima Thurander
Deventer Exploration An Acquisition
22
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Posted - 2011.10.19 00:50:00 -
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i to cannot get my windows to stay pined
I love the the smell of victory in the morning. It smells like... Blood, vomit and burning flesh. |
applejacks34 Applecrack
Jump Gate Rejects
4
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Posted - 2011.10.19 00:52:00 -
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I filed a petition just to make sure CCP takes note on this. |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
112
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Posted - 2011.10.19 04:26:00 -
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Just fix it it's the most annoying thing ever thanks in advance |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University
Ivy League
28
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Posted - 2011.10.19 04:53:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:i to cannot get my windows to stay pined
Yeah, I'm not sure that CCP grasps the concept of "pinned means that window stays where I put it, period". |
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Jaina Va
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 05:42:00 -
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A "fix" that works for me is just not having the windows in exactly the same place, so I moved my overview and drones one "snap distance" away from the edges of the screen and placed my station services in the corner, so far it is working.
I had problems with this before the patch, so I already knew not to place any two windows in the exact same place, in case I ever opened both at the same time... |
Jardine Khan
Grey Wolves Mercenary Guild
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 05:54:00 -
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About 2 years ago, when I started playing this game, the selected items and overview windows were in the upper right corner and the station services window covered the right side, and I haven't changed them since. So imagine my surprise when I download this new patch, and the client update, and find that every time I dock/undock, the overview window moves to the lower right corner and the station services windows compresses itself into a little box about midway on the right side.
It could just require another client update or maybe a new patch, either way, I hope CCP fixes this and soon. |
XiaoLei Lin
Underworld Angels of Darkness
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:41:00 -
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A temporary work around.
As soon as you hit the dock button and waiting for permission, press ESC to bring up the options window.
Now just wait till docking permission is accepted and station interface loads then just ESC again to exit the options window.
worked for me so far.
Guess we're stuck for sometime till it gets fixed. |
Jade Nexia
CHON
THE R0NIN
2
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:46:00 -
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This problem need to be addressed ASAP. Proposed workarnoud about going to "Options Window" When I undoc/dock is ... I would rather want it censored what I thinking about. |
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GM Karidor
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
509
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Posted - 2011.10.19 13:44:00 -
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We're working on this already and it will be fixed as soon as possible. Until then, Cynika has posted a workaround in the Incarna 1.1.2 issues thread, which we were able to confirm as working quite reliably:
1.Dock, enter hangar view, go to esc menu, general settings tab, change windows snap option to "Don't snap"
2. Grab the station services window and move it a little bit away from screen edges (it should not stick to any side od screen)
3. Enter esc menu again and turn the snap on to your desired value.
4. Undock. If the ov windows were relocated previously put them in the position you want them to be.
5. Dock. Station services window should not be relocated from the posision you put it in the last time.
6. Undock. Same as above - ov should not be relocated.
Another reliable quick fix is to disable Window Snapping altogether within the "General Settings" tab (set the Window Snap Distance to "Don't snap").
Resetting all Window Positions and clearing the client cache (both available in the "Reset Settings" tab of the game options) have also been reported to help some players, but those were not working in all cases.
GM Karidor | Senior Game Master |
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Del Jouhannen
Delphinian Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:47:00 -
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GM Karidor wrote:We're working on this already and it will be fixed as soon as possible.
While I hope this is fixed soon it begs the question why it even happened to begin with. Is there no testing going on at all? How could such a bug that affects lots of players get missed like that? I think a lot of players would be happy if releases to add features were tested *properly*, even if it meant having to wait another week for an update to add or change functionality of features. |
mnkybrdr
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:30:00 -
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How many times do they break the window handling?
Cargo hold problems, chat windows, now station services.
They should know that they need to test it more as they keep breaking it.
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mxzf
Shovel Bros
30
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Posted - 2011.10.19 20:25:00 -
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Yep, I'm running into this too. It's actually pretty annoying. Atleast there are a couple semi workarounds, but this really needs to be fixed. |
Norian Lonark
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 20:58:00 -
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XiaoLei Lin wrote:A temporary work around.
As soon as you hit the dock button and waiting for permission, press ESC to bring up the options window.
Now just wait till docking permission is accepted and station interface loads then just ESC again to exit the options window.
worked for me so far.
Guess we're stuck for sometime till it gets fixed.
Thank you 
Was driving me crazy. This is working for me.
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Aldan Romar
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:29:00 -
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What works for me at the moment:
I usually have both Station Services as well as the Overview pinned in the upper right corner of the screen.
For now I just pinned my Station Services windows a little lower (so not touching the upper side of the screen, but still hugging the right side), while Overview stays where it was.
This works and the two windows don't influence each other again.
Chribba: null-sec is scary!
Surfin's PlunderBunny: I think lowsec is scarier... spent about 5 hours in null and saw one other person in that time. We spent over an hour trying to out afk-cloak each other |
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Altair Raja
Colonial Marines EVE Division
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 00:57:00 -
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Also getting this problem.
turning on the CQ is not a valid fix that i'll accept. |
Mahadiva
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 08:11:00 -
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GM Karidor wrote:
1.Dock, enter hangar view, go to esc menu, general settings tab, change windows snap option to "Don't snap"
2. Grab the station services window and move it a little bit away from screen edges (it should not stick to any side od screen)
3. Enter esc menu again and turn the snap on to your desired value.
4. Undock. If the ov windows were relocated previously put them in the position you want them to be.
5. Dock. Station services window should not be relocated from the posision you put it in the last time.
6. Undock. Same as above - ov should not be relocated.
Confirming this has finally worked for me. Previously, cache clearing and window resetting had not.
Farewell, CQ! |
Cyerus
Galactic Dominion
Eternal Strife
2
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Posted - 2011.10.20 11:10:00 -
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I have the same bug, and can confirm that 'Resetting all Settings' doesn't fix it either.
Going to try the workaround, once I finish configuring my settings again.
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Jil Kelly
Cosmodynamics
0
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:03:00 -
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Mahadiva wrote:GM Karidor wrote:
1.Dock, enter hangar view, go to esc menu, general settings tab, change windows snap option to "Don't snap"
2. Grab the station services window and move it a little bit away from screen edges (it should not stick to any side od screen)
3. Enter esc menu again and turn the snap on to your desired value.
4. Undock. If the ov windows were relocated previously put them in the position you want them to be.
5. Dock. Station services window should not be relocated from the posision you put it in the last time.
6. Undock. Same as above - ov should not be relocated.
Confirming this has finally worked for me. Previously, cache clearing and window resetting had not. Farewell, CQ!
This did not work for me. I finally noticed that overview/selected item windows got left on the screen up untill "station services" window came and went in between of em' both, making selected item window smaller while forcing it to upper-right corner of screen and making overview also smaller but forcing it to lower-right corner of screen.
So i figured a solution and tested it by undocking several times with different ships and all. And all i needed to do was to move "station services" window out of it's original position so that it would not touch the original place of overview/selected item windows.
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CCP Aporia
C C P
C C P Alliance
4
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:12:00 -
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For your information: This issue is fixed internally, and this fix should go onto Singularity this Friday. Thanks for pointing out that checking off "don't snap" would reduce the likeliness of this happening, it helped us big time finding the root cause. |
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Jil Kelly
Cosmodynamics
0
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Posted - 2011.10.21 00:14:00 -
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Hail the CCP, was going mad resizing the windows and need this workaround :P. |
Wata Keshive
Gemeinschaft interstellarer Soeldner
Ev0ke
0
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Posted - 2011.10.21 09:51:00 -
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hmm...d+¬j+á vu.
As is remember correctly the same issue has already occured earlier with deployment of a tyrannis patch and was related to a change of the python version. New release of old shipspinning... and old bugs ;).
P.s: nevertheless, ccp you are on the right path now. |
SkinSin
Cushions of Doom
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 21:32:00 -
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CCP Aporia wrote:For your information: This issue is fixed internally, and this fix should go onto Singularity this Friday. Thanks for pointing out that checking off "don't snap" would reduce the likeliness of this happening, it helped us big time finding the root cause.
After it's on Singularity, how long do you reckon it'll be before it hits Tranquility? Having this problem about 25 times an evening really does make it unbearable and I don't think I can cope until having to wait until the Winter expansion before we get it. |
Agrikaan
Tash-Murkon Imports and Exports
0
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Posted - 2011.10.22 22:10:00 -
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"Another reliable quick fix is to disable Window Snapping altogether within the "General Settings" tab (set the Window Snap Distance to "Don't snap"). "
Really? This again?
That's why that option was imlemented a few years back, and I've had it disabled since. And still the windows move about like there's no tomorrow. So that workaround doesn't really work well.
PS: Yes, you're on the right track again, good thing. |
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CCP Aporia
C C P
C C P Alliance
5
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Posted - 2011.10.22 23:44:00 -
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SkinSin wrote:CCP Aporia wrote:For your information: This issue is fixed internally, and this fix should go onto Singularity this Friday. Thanks for pointing out that checking off "don't snap" would reduce the likeliness of this happening, it helped us big time finding the root cause. After it's on Singularity, how long do you reckon it'll be before it hits Tranquility? Having this problem about 25 times an evening really does make it unbearable and I don't think I can cope until having to wait until the Winter expansion before we get it.
If all goes well: Tuesday seems likely.
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