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Private Pineapple Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 320	Posted - 2013.05.07 03:29:00 - [1] - Quote Hmm... I stopped nearly-a-year streak of not posting on these forums just to post in this thread. It's caught my eye for a while now and I've wanted to reply for some time. Yes, there are tons of deaf players in this game but they like to stay quiet about things in general because hearing people are usually quite harsh towards them in another MMOs, and EVE does attract a ruthless crowd. I tried starting up a corporation once a long long time ago, didn't work out. Too few people. Even fewer people who have enough confidence to join a corporation that basically tells everyone you're deaf. I must say that this game has the potential to be the most deaf-friendly MMO to hit the markets as combat is usually quite slow. You could make do with short text commands such as: Movement: wt [System] --> warp to [System] wt [System] @ [Distance] --> warp to [System] at [Distance] jump --> Jump hold/sb/standby/wait --> Standby for further directions ...etc Context: enemies ns --> Enemies on the next side waiting os --> Waiting on scout to relay info ...etc Combat: pri [Name] --> primary [Name] sec [Name] --> secondary [Name] ter [Name] --> tertiary [Name] fire --> Fire fire aw --> Fire at whatever/will ...etc I mean, I dunno. That was the plan for my deaf corporation so we could be a good pvp unit but because like no one joined, it never came to fruition. I hope other FCs pick up this idea and use it though... being deaf myself, believe me when I say that we thrive on visual cues and textual commands. Most of the time we get by in a fleet by following what people do instead of listening to the FC. But this can be a problem as we usually just don't know what the hell is going on... basically there is no context for us to work with. If people just took the time to clarify why we're doing X thing, we'd be able to piece the rest of the dots together! Fradle wrote: I've met a fair amount of deaf eve players. But I also went to a technical institute that had a very large deaf community... so I'm not the best one to base numbers off of. Out with the names! I'm pretty sure you're talking of Rochester Institute of Technology due to their famous (at least in the deaf community) National Technical Institute for the Deaf. There are tons of deaf people here due to the federal funding of services rendered (such as interpreting, notetaking, Cprint relaying...). Personally I go there for the tuition benefits "just for being deaf" and learn at RIT. I'm graduating in two weeks anyway and will be working, so please believe me when I say that all deaf / HoH (hard of hearing) students should come here. It is an amazing place and a lot of hearing people are eager to learn sign language. Hell, even the town itself -- Rochester -- has been dubbed the "deaf capital" throughout the deaf community due to the sheer amount of deaf / HoH residents here. I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum. I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
Private Pineapple Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 322	Posted - 2013.05.07 22:05:00 - [2] - Quote Lenda Shinhwa wrote: I use a program called Ditto that provides an enhanced clipboard. You can store a history of text in it and it is easy to pop up and select what you want. I of course use it to taunt miners in the hopes of extracting tears. But it could just as easily be used to load up with several key phrases for use in PvP. What you would need more than anything is an FC that used standardized phrases for common tasks to cut down on the time it takes you to understand what he is saying and therefore pick the right relay text off the clipboard. Combine that with an FC who actually uses the Tag system on the overview and I would think you could get by pretty well. Ditto: http://ditto-cp.sourceforge.net/ This should be perfect. All it takes is a FC that is willing to use it. I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum. I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.
Private Pineapple Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 322	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:29:00 - [3] - Quote Maggie Evenstar wrote: Harek wrote: Deaf player going on since 2005...it gets quite lonely in Eve at times. TS (Teamspeak) and Eve Voice is a huge barrier and countless corporations and alliances reject enough times. Founded my own corp and play with few friends. Any Deaf/HoH capsuleers chime in-game would be wonderful :) CCP should balance out the need for the hearing and Deaf/HoH/Blind...equal access and break down the barriers plus discrimination/prejudice -Harek Okay, I'll rant a bit... Here are a few of the more notable discriminatory treatments I've had in Eve due to my deafness. 1. Last year I tried to join Eve University but the recruiter said I could not join since I could not hear the voice comms due to the fact that I'm deaf. I appreciate their teaching new players Eve, but thought that treatment was absolutely reprehensible. 2. As a girl gamer, I was invited to join the Women Gamers of Eve channel of which I was a member for almost a year. The admin who invited me allowed me to avoid the teamspeak interview (to verify I am really a girl) because I shared with her my personal website, hosted under MYNAMEIRL.COM (which is also Maggie) and contained a number of photos of me. I had her send me a email from the contact form on the site to verify that it was me. I also let her see me on facebook and run a whois search on my website domain name to see my name yet again as the owner of the site (along with my cell number and home address!). In retrospect, this was all very very stupid of me to share like that but that's what I did. Then, about a year later, the main channel admin singled me out when she heard I was deaf and started asking me how I got into the channel. I told her, but she demanded the voice interview and removed me. I just thought the whole thing was incredibly rude and insensitive. I could let this person hear my voice or see me on cams, but after being targeted like that because of my being deaf...I have absolutely no interest in being involved with anything in which that person is involved. 3. Here is something that has happened a few times...I'll be in a fleet doing some sort of OP and suddenly convo goes completely silent for 10+ minutes...no one responding because they are not paying attention because they are on voice (not even a quick response saying "we are working on something in voice"). When I try to explain that I need to be kept better in the loop, on more than one occasion I've had guys respond that they think I'm trying to make the world revolve around me which is totally not true (not in these cases anyway ). Some of that may be a perception because I am very chatty but chat is THE ONLY communication I have in here. I think there is basically just a total disconnect with a lot of people with what it is like to be deaf and what is required for meaningful interaction. I find to play Eve, I have to find players willing to NOT use voice comms so that communication is steady. This means I have to avoid large fleet activities altogether (except for incursions)...which are pretty straight forward and don't require comms once you know what you're doing. Okay...my rant is over...If you are deaf or would like to play with a deaf player...look me up. I live in WH space with Highsec access so it's pretty easy to get to me. Ouch. You aren't alone though, all of us have went through discrimination in many ways. It sucks that everyone who is hearing is so dependent on VOIP nowadays... 15 years ago everyone did raids, went on pvp conquests, etc using only text and look how much that has changed. Corey Fumimasa wrote: Lenda Shinhwa wrote: I use a program called Ditto that provides an enhanced clipboard. You can store a history of text in it and it is easy to pop up and select what you want. I of course use it to taunt miners in the hopes of extracting tears. But it could just as easily be used to load up with several key phrases for use in PvP. What you would need more than anything is an FC that used standardized phrases for common tasks to cut down on the time it takes you to understand what he is saying and therefore pick the right relay text off the clipboard. Combine that with an FC who actually uses the Tag system on the overview and I would think you could get by pretty well. Ditto: [url=http://ditto clipboard ap from sourceforge Thats all bullshit mal-ware you *******!!!! DO NOT DOWNLOAD THIS!!!! "Dito" clipboard ap from "sourceforge" Sorry to hear. I hope you get it all sorted. I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum. I am the rightful heir to the CSM 8 throne.

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