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DJLEV8	Posted - 2005.09.29 14:29:00 - [1] Have seen the reference to carebears in numerous posts but what does it mean?
Asestorian	Posted - 2005.09.29 14:31:00 - [2] I think the general definition is someone who avoids combat with other players at all possible times, never goes into lowsec and does mining/missioning/producing mostly..
Bodak	Posted - 2005.09.29 14:31:00 - [3] Fluffy Bunny... Cuddly .... not very manly...
DJLEV8	Posted - 2005.09.29 14:32:00 - [4] thanks for the replies
Terrut	Posted - 2005.09.29 14:32:00 - [5] Did you never watch TV when you were younger It's a term used for some one who doesn't pirate, do pvp etc, ie some one who mines all the time. Regards.
Bbllaarrgg	Posted - 2005.09.29 15:31:00 - [6] The term carebear is a label, and a generalisation. Just like the term 'pvp'er' Most people labeled as either usually spend a healthy amount of time doing the other activity. pvp'ers have carebear alts and carebears often go shoot people. All generalisations are false. (including this one ) _________________________ Insert fnord here.
Rufus Roughneck	Posted - 2005.09.29 15:35:00 - [7] Carebears are risk-aversive in the extreme. This does not mean only risk of combat, but any risk of losing. They tend to be very pve oriented (since there's less risk there), and tend to like large well filled wallets that serve little purpose then making a nice picture. In eve however, the term has been bastardised and is mostly mentioned in referance to people that would like to see pvp combat being strongly regulated, or at least would want the option of not being confronted by non-consentual combat if they choose to. Also oftenly used wrongly as another word for miner.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.09.29 15:42:00 - [8] A carebear is someone who, when they find something they don't like, has their first instinct to whine about it, rather than adapt to it (and THEN possibly make suggestions on the forums about it). Examples: a) Carebear gates into low sec where there's a pirate camp, whines on forums. b) Carebear pirate can't instapod people with single smartbomb. Whines on forums. c) Carebear PvPer doesn't like that he can't catch all industrials with a single 1-strength disruptor. He whines about WCS on the forums, instead of fitting an extra scrambler. -- Proud member of the [23].
slapp	Posted - 2005.09.29 15:54:00 - [9] Edited by: slapp on 29/09/2005 15:54:27 \| ˘ __________________________________________________ CAREBEAR, n. A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in CCP affairs has always been dominant and controling.
Bawlduke	Posted - 2005.09.29 16:37:00 - [10] Care Bears Beware, some carebears have teeth and claws. They anger quickly and are known to eat invaders of their space. Approach with caution. ......................... "it's like Hee Haw in space..." .........................
Kula Alpha	Posted - 2005.09.29 18:36:00 - [11] The opposite of a sociopath; believes in the strength of co-operative endeavor. Never a griefer or bully. Not a career path, or specific views. Many are PVPers, but usually as defenders and enforcers rather than individual pirates.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:00:00 - [12] Originally by: Bawlduke Care Bears Beware, some carebears have teeth and claws. They anger quickly and are known to eat invaders of their space. Approach with caution. A carebear is a bear that cares ;) My favourite is CheerfulBear! \o/ 4tw ♥♥♥♥♥
Megadon	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:04:00 - [13] Originally by: Dark Shikari A carebear is someone who, when they find something they don't like, has their first instinct to whine about it, rather than adapt to it (and THEN possibly make suggestions on the forums about it). Examples: a) Carebear gates into low sec where there's a pirate camp, whines on forums. b) Carebear pirate can't instapod people with single smartbomb. Whines on forums. c) Carebear PvPer doesn't like that he can't catch all industrials with a single 1-strength disruptor. He whines about WCS on the forums, instead of fitting an extra scrambler. I like your definitions and sometimes wonder if there are more PVP Carebears than Industrialist Carebears
RedlegSA	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:08:00 - [14] Originally by: Kula Alpha The opposite of a sociopath; believes in the strength of co-operative endeavor. Never a griefer or bully. Not a career path, or specific views. Many are PVPers, but usually as defenders and enforcers rather than individual pirates. Actually this is how I see my character - ethical, but prepared and willing to defend himself and others - using game mechanics instead of asking for game mechanic changes. I would hope this is a positively viewed 'Carebear', as opposed to other catagorizations mentioned above, which to me seem negative.
Magnum III	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:17:00 - [15] Edited by: Magnum III on 29/09/2005 19:19:50 Most of you got it wrong, Carebears are not just casual non violent players that keep to them selves. Carebears are people who care about other players in a way that they don't like it if you hurt other players in any way, even if it is part of the game and fun. Carebears always try to protect others with non violent acts, usually whining about the situation though. Originally by: Dark Shikari A carebear is someone who, when they find something they don't like, has their first instinct to whine about it, rather than adapt to it (and THEN possibly make suggestions on the forums about it). Examples: a) Carebear gates into low sec where there's a pirate camp, whines on forums. b) Carebear pirate can't instapod people with single smartbomb. Whines on forums. c) Carebear PvPer doesn't like that he can't catch all industrials with a single 1-strength disruptor. He whines about WCS on the forums, instead of fitting an extra scrambler. Dark Shikari is also right IMO.
GBBUTT	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:22:00 - [16] Id spose people would call me a carebear, but its more that i have a wallet with 5 digits not 12. As soon as i get some cash up i want to go into low sec and shoot some people.
Waldo Barnstormer	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:30:00 - [17] im a carebear and im proud dammit to me, it just means that I dont go around griefing people who are smaller than me shrug
Magnum III	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:31:00 - [18] Edited by: Magnum III on 29/09/2005 19:33:47 ... Double post sorry
Magnum III	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:32:00 - [19] Edited by: Magnum III on 29/09/2005 19:33:01 Originally by: GBBUTT Id spose people would call me a carebear, but its more that i have a wallet with 5 digits not 12. As soon as i get some cash up i want to go into low sec and shoot some people. You are not a Carebear. If you mine all the time then you are a miner, end of story. Etc... Etc... If you act like those Carebears from that cartoon then you are a Carebear. A Carebear is what it sounds like, a fluffy little over caring whiner.
Flyyn	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:33:00 - [20] Carebears are multi color teddy bears with little pictures on their tummies...They are cartoons, they went around defeating ebil pirates and gankers by their special carebear powers, the picture on their tummies was their power. How did it get into Eve? Tank-CEO was forced to watch it when he was a kid and has hated anything cute and cuddly from that day on. So when he did his newbie slaughter that was somthing he yelled out in local, "I will teach you CAREBEARS to hide from me!!" then of course I can be wrong.....
Magnum III	Posted - 2005.09.29 19:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Flyyn Carebears are multi color teddy bears with little pictures on their tummies...They are cartoons, they went around defeating ebil pirates and gankers by their special carebear powers, the picture on their tummies was their power. How did it get into Eve? Tank-CEO was forced to watch it when he was a kid and has hated anything cute and cuddly from that day on. So when he did his newbie slaughter that was somthing he yelled out in local, "I will teach you CAREBEARS to hide from me!!" then of course I can be wrong..... I'm sure you are right but it is in all MMORPG's right now and for a while.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2005.09.29 20:53:00 - [22] Originally by: Kula Alpha The opposite of a sociopath; believes in the strength of co-operative endeavor. Never a griefer or bully. Not a career path, or specific views. Many are PVPers, but usually as defenders and enforcers rather than individual pirates. Exactly the opposite. Carebears are the sociopaths, the ones that DON'T believe in working together to a common goal. Instead, they whine about the fact that they can't reach that goal alone. -- Proud member of the [23].
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2005.09.29 21:06:00 - [23] I just see carebears as some1 who doesnt pvp, i dont see it as an insult or anything, just like people call pvpers pks. Ofcourse some people do try to turn it into an insult, but hey who gives a ****.
GBBUTT	Posted - 2005.09.29 21:13:00 - [24] Originally by: Magnum III Edited by: Magnum III on 29/09/2005 19:33:01 Originally by: GBBUTT Id spose people would call me a carebear, but its more that i have a wallet with 5 digits not 12. As soon as i get some cash up i want to go into low sec and shoot some people. You are not a Carebear. If you mine all the time then you are a miner, end of story. Etc... Etc... If you act like those Carebears from that cartoon then you are a Carebear. A Carebear is what it sounds like, a fluffy little over caring whiner. Well i do mine alot, but yeah i dont whinge much anymore. It was more in my newb days i would have a winge. I put that down to thinking the game wasnt like the real world and it was this garden of eden. The the realisation its just like life and its what you make of it, rather than what your given. That said im still bloody poor after buying all the infrastructure to support myself. Damn BPO's aint cheap.
Arbenowskee	Posted - 2005.09.29 21:18:00 - [25] LANDLUBBER!!! YARRR! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.09.29 21:32:00 - [26] Carebear: Derogatory term used to describe the kind of person who doesn't 'get' EVE. The kind of player who thinks that 0.0 should be made into space where you can't be shot, so they can go and mine arkonor in peace, and that missions should be soloable without any danger to themselves, without stopping to consider that easy = no fun.
CareBear	Posted - 2005.09.29 21:34:00 - [27] Me.
Chucky	Posted - 2005.09.29 22:34:00 - [28] Originally by: DJLEV8 Have seen the reference to carebears in numerous posts but what does it mean? If you have to ask, you probably are one ... you will see more and more marketing which in turn will bring you more players to torture.
Krolen	Posted - 2005.09.30 01:49:00 - [29] As someone who has played MMPOGs since they were called MUDs 15 years ago. I guess I would be considered a "Carebear" player. I see no satisfaction out of gettting insta killed warping into a system, I enjoy good competitive PvP when I at least have a chance. But being bullied by a player with a Battlecruiser vs a Tristan, is plain silly and not fun. I dont whine, because if I dont like it I'll avoid it. But to think for a second that the majority enjoys being griefed or poded without a chance is plain ignorant. Or that the mojority even enjoys PvP for that matter. WoW has 3.5 million suscribers, because they cater to every type of player. Dont get me wrong I dont like WoW. But the point is....for an MMPOG to survive long term it needs to offer options to all types of players. Casual gamers like myself who at the most gets an hour of play time a day, do not have 2+ hours to recover from being killed. When I get killed, I'm pretty much done for that night, sometimes a few nights, depending how many jumps it will take me to buy everything I need. Or if I need to go mine or do something else to recover the funds or run some Lvl 1 missions. The bottom line is to have a choice, you want to PvP?...Cool! You dont? Thats cool too. Loosing casual players is bad for everyone. How much development do you think is going to happen to Eve, if they arent profitable? That said, I think Eve is going in the right direction, I havent run out of PVE options in the 2 weeks I've been playing, and all death were due to my lack of knowledge. Which is fully acceptable. I would like to see more PvE options, and maybe a PvE server.
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2005.09.30 01:53:00 - [30] Edited by: Deja Thoris on 30/09/2005 01:53:45 Originally by: Krolen I would like to see more PvE options, and maybe a PvE server. This will NEVER happen. EVE has a player driven market. How dynamic and indepth will this game be when a) Demand is slashed because people rarely die to npc's b) Half the items in-game are retracted because they have no PvE application. It would be a sad empty shell of what EVE is now.

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