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 Visionary    |
Posted - 2003.07.31 14:12:00 -
[1] Fountain two weeks ago: We were a large family. Everyone did help everyone and it interested nobody whether you had a frigate or a battleship. There are NPC Pirates and recources in the abundance and each hunter behaves after the unwritten laws of hunter code of ethics. Everyone does look for itself if a belt is free for huntin, nobody steals others loot, if one gets problems is sufficient a call in the local one channel and at least two battleships hurry one to the assistance.... Up to the day as Xanadu and evolution in Fountain emerged. At the beginning closed the freelancers together at the occupation of the Fountain region by the alliance of the two companies to prevent. There was negotiations their contents of I not knows exactly. It was only said to me that peace between the companies in Fountain it was closed and the Fountain region was to remain a free zone for all pilots Under the cover to defend Fountain against ôm0oö and ôSinisterö Xanadu succeeded to integrate all large companies with battleships into their alliance. Before the region was closed due to the battles, which can be expected, alliance members at large expenditure from the system were escorted out. It was promised that u can return later to Fountain and get your stuff. The proceeding surprised me immediately. Alliances against pirates sorted according to size of the company and which ships the pilots have. To set up they need each man around to build enormous power against the piratesà. the more the better. But is that really the intention of Xanadu? The calculation for the practice-substantial behaviour apparent already got the alliance in the first fights against m0o. However they block further the region for all non-members of the alliance and announce in the IRC that the alliance accepts no more members. One can buy now a daily ticket for entering the Fountain region for 500.000 isk from Xanadu (told me on #fountain by [XAN]Lench and [XAN]niawe) That is FRAUD! And it is piracy! POD (PayOrDie) is piracy! The members of the alliance were deceived. Under the pretext to keep Fountain free of pirates, are to be interspersed them now the slaves of Xanadu around their machinations. The intention of Fountain to keep of pirates and for everyone make safe was to be occupied only one pretext around Fountain. Pilots frees you from this alliance! Artegg, Neumania, Leila Numanor (and all others of YZ-LQL)... what is from the dream become that rogues in Fountain no chances have? If it were really the intention of the FA this dream to carry out, why is some pilots not permitted evenly for this dream to fight then? You are nothing as slaves of Xanadu! With each weaker, which you shoot on behalf of the Alliance, you lose your honour and become nothing better than the members of the bad! Visionary CTO Anti-Corp --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
 Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 14:12:00 -
[2] Fountain two weeks ago: We were a large family. Everyone did help everyone and it interested nobody whether you had a frigate or a battleship. There are NPC Pirates and recources in the abundance and each hunter behaves after the unwritten laws of hunter code of ethics. Everyone does look for itself if a belt is free for huntin, nobody steals others loot, if one gets problems is sufficient a call in the local one channel and at least two battleships hurry one to the assistance.... Up to the day as Xanadu and evolution in Fountain emerged. At the beginning closed the freelancers together at the occupation of the Fountain region by the alliance of the two companies to prevent. There was negotiations their contents of I not knows exactly. It was only said to me that peace between the companies in Fountain it was closed and the Fountain region was to remain a free zone for all pilots Under the cover to defend Fountain against ôm0oö and ôSinisterö Xanadu succeeded to integrate all large companies with battleships into their alliance. Before the region was closed due to the battles, which can be expected, alliance members at large expenditure from the system were escorted out. It was promised that u can return later to Fountain and get your stuff. The proceeding surprised me immediately. Alliances against pirates sorted according to size of the company and which ships the pilots have. To set up they need each man around to build enormous power against the piratesà. the more the better. But is that really the intention of Xanadu? The calculation for the practice-substantial behaviour apparent already got the alliance in the first fights against m0o. However they block further the region for all non-members of the alliance and announce in the IRC that the alliance accepts no more members. One can buy now a daily ticket for entering the Fountain region for 500.000 isk from Xanadu (told me on #fountain by [XAN]Lench and [XAN]niawe) That is FRAUD! And it is piracy! POD (PayOrDie) is piracy! The members of the alliance were deceived. Under the pretext to keep Fountain free of pirates, are to be interspersed them now the slaves of Xanadu around their machinations. The intention of Fountain to keep of pirates and for everyone make safe was to be occupied only one pretext around Fountain. Pilots frees you from this alliance! Artegg, Neumania, Leila Numanor (and all others of YZ-LQL)... what is from the dream become that rogues in Fountain no chances have? If it were really the intention of the FA this dream to carry out, why is some pilots not permitted evenly for this dream to fight then? You are nothing as slaves of Xanadu! With each weaker, which you shoot on behalf of the Alliance, you lose your honour and become nothing better than the members of the bad! Visionary CTO Anti-Corp --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
 StavRUS |
Posted - 2003.07.31 14:39:00 -
[3] OMG how ghey They can't hear you, they busy mining bistot and building battleships. Duh OMG OMG OMG |
 StavRUS Amarr |
Posted - 2003.07.31 14:39:00 -
[4] OMG how ghey They can't hear you, they busy mining bistot and building battleships. Duh OMG OMG OMG |
 Visionary |
Posted - 2003.07.31 14:48:00 -
[5] sure... such comment is from a stupid amarr  --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 14:48:00 -
[6] sure... such comment is from a stupid amarr --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
 Lianhaun |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:01:00 -
[7] well as far as i know Xanadu its more that peopl are the slaves of Evo. (as a corp) and a few members of Xanadu. This is not a hijack |
 Lianhaun Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:01:00 -
[8] well as far as i know Xanadu its more that peopl are the slaves of Evo. (as a corp) and a few members of Xanadu. |
Siris |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:08:00 -
[9] I can quite see the internal wars beginning already. All tremble before your reasoning and logic. |
 Siris Gallente Exuberant |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:08:00 -
[10] I can quite see the internal wars beginning already. All tremble before your reasoning and logic. |
Ronyo Dae'Loki |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:13:00 -
[11] Funny stuff. You're wrong about this stuff, by the way. ------------- My salsa makes all the pretty girls want to dance and take off their underpants. I <3 ( . Y . ) |
 Ronyo Dae'Loki Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:13:00 -
[12] Funny stuff. You're wrong about this stuff, by the way. ------------- |
Orestes |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:14:00 -
[13] Moved from General Discussion. Join the IC! |
 Orestes ISD Interstellar Correspondents  |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:14:00 -
[14] Moved from General Discussion. Join the IC! |
OwlManAtt |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:16:00 -
[15] Awesome! I always wanted to be a slave of xandu/pirate! Now "Pay or die" ROFL! --- OwlManAtt Ex-Beta Tester Retail Player CCP Supporter |
 OwlManAtt Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:16:00 -
[16] Awesome! I always wanted to be a slave of xandu/pirate! Now "Pay or die" ROFL! --- OwlManAtt Ex-Beta Tester Retail Player CCP Supporter |
 Art Dillinja |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:21:00 -
[17] thats why we keep the ops in the internal channel exclusively to xanadu. thats also why there is no council. and thats why you are only allowed to voice your opinion in FA when told to. right? right. |
 Art Dillinja Caldari XanCom |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:21:00 -
[18] thats why we keep the ops in the internal channel exclusively to xanadu. thats also why there is no council. and thats why you are only allowed to voice your opinion in FA when told to. right? right. |
nonsequitur |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:28:00 -
[19]
All hail our glorious overlords Xanadu. * nonsequitur quickly runs back to the bistot mines before he is beaten for lazyness. |
 nonsequitur Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:28:00 -
[20]
All hail our glorious overlords Xanadu. * nonsequitur quickly runs back to the bistot mines before he is beaten for lazyness. |
 StoreSlem |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:29:00 -
[21] This is clearly not a recruitment thread, move to general discussion plz. |
 StoreSlem Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:29:00 -
[22] This is clearly not a recruitment thread, move to general discussion plz. "If you were experiencing a lag, it was not server related." |
Discorporation |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:30:00 -
[23] EVE Corporations, Factions and Organizations HQ Create new corporations and organizations, announce community service or advertise your news, fan or corporation site. Clearly a recruitment forum, Store ;) [Heterocephalus glaber] |
 Discorporation Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:30:00 -
[24] EVE Corporations, Factions and Organizations HQ Create new corporations and organizations, announce community service or advertise your news, fan or corporation site. Clearly a recruitment forum, Store ;) |
StoreSlem |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:40:00 -
[25] Look at the thread topics here fs. SOME NOOB CORP: Now recruiting!!! ONE MAN UBER CORP: Now recruiting even more! MORE RECRUITMENT: Recruitment still open (thread 17) some interesting thread moved from general discussion. RECRUITMENT RECRUITMENT WE ARE RECRUITING! |
 Visionary |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:40:00 -
[26] Edited by: Visionary on 31/07/2003 15:40:34 was in general... OP moved here... dunno why :/ but sure it belopngs to things between corps and factions. --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:40:00 -
[27] Edited by: Visionary on 31/07/2003 15:40:34 was in general... OP moved here... dunno why :/ but sure it belopngs to things between corps and factions. --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
StoreSlem Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:40:00 -
[28] Look at the thread topics here fs. SOME NOOB CORP: Now recruiting!!! ONE MAN UBER CORP: Now recruiting even more! MORE RECRUITMENT: Recruitment still open (thread 17) some interesting thread moved from general discussion. RECRUITMENT RECRUITMENT WE ARE RECRUITING! "If you were experiencing a lag, it was not server related." |
Visionary |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:44:00 -
[29] Edited by: Visionary on 31/07/2003 15:44:39 as i said... it was in general, as u can see... op moved. but is that all xanadu has to say to this? --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:44:00 -
[30] Edited by: Visionary on 31/07/2003 15:44:39 as i said... it was in general, as u can see... op moved. but is that all xanadu has to say to this? --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
 StoreSlem |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:50:00 -
[31] Of course I know it has been moved, I'm only appaled that it was, Also, yes that is all we can say at the moment, your charges are all too true and we can't hope to defend us from them. |
StoreSlem Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2003.07.31 15:50:00 -
[32] Of course I know it has been moved, I'm only appaled that it was, Also, yes that is all we can say at the moment, your charges are all too true and we can't hope to defend us from them. "If you were experiencing a lag, it was not server related." |
Dragon Emperor |
Posted - 2003.07.31 16:58:00 -
[33] FA surely underestimate the power of the fountain residents they left out......my corp is small, but we have 10 BS fleet, I know some other small corps are same level power, if things getting worse to us, we sure will react. |
 Dragon Emperor Amarr Dark Design |
Posted - 2003.07.31 16:58:00 -
[34] FA surely underestimate the power of the fountain residents they left out......my corp is small, but we have 10 BS fleet, I know some other small corps are same level power, if things getting worse to us, we sure will react. |
Snoop |
Posted - 2003.07.31 17:01:00 -
[35] we maybe slaves but we are not ill treated, you have no reason to fear for our safety. we get clean clothes and fresh food each day and we are treated with respect /me goes back to polishing the FA fleet |
 Snoop Gallente Babylon. |
Posted - 2003.07.31 17:01:00 -
[36] we maybe slaves but we are not ill treated, you have no reason to fear for our safety. we get clean clothes and fresh food each day and we are treated with respect /me goes back to polishing the FA fleet |
Temujin Destovai |
Posted - 2003.07.31 17:05:00 -
[37] The problem is that we lack a Corporation Politics forum (and a seperate recruitment forum) since most people dont check this place. Now if you would excuse me.. I have some slaves to feed The Chronicles of Xanadu |
 Temujin Destovai Caldari Children of Xanadu |
Posted - 2003.07.31 17:05:00 -
[38] The problem is that we lack a Corporation Politics forum (and a seperate recruitment forum) since most people dont check this place. Now if you would excuse me.. I have some slaves to feed The Chronicles of Xanadu |
Visionary |
Posted - 2003.07.31 17:29:00 -
[39] u arrogantly "kings" will get the bill for ur behaviour... and if it will be in the end, that many ppl will quit eve cause there is no space for individuals and freelancers and small corps. and all systems where u can get the money for a BS r in the hand of alliances now... so what do u think who will buy ur stuff later? there will be nobody left! meanwhile i think i should go and shoot cargo containers from minin noops of some corps to show them how it feels to suprees weaker ppl. --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 17:29:00 -
[40] u arrogantly "kings" will get the bill for ur behaviour... and if it will be in the end, that many ppl will quit eve cause there is no space for individuals and freelancers and small corps. and all systems where u can get the money for a BS r in the hand of alliances now... so what do u think who will buy ur stuff later? there will be nobody left! meanwhile i think i should go and shoot cargo containers from minin noops of some corps to show them how it feels to suprees weaker ppl. --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
 Hiro Protagonist |
Posted - 2003.07.31 18:06:00 -
[41]Damnit, why is Xanadu getting ebil points? I thought TTI was the owner of all ebil! |
 Hiro Protagonist Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.07.31 18:06:00 -
[42]Damnit, why is Xanadu getting ebil points? I thought TTI was the owner of all ebil! |
Visionary |
Posted - 2003.07.31 18:29:00 -
[43] who the **** is tti ;) --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 18:29:00 -
[44] who the **** is tti ;) --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Hiro Protagonist |
Posted - 2003.07.31 18:38:00 -
[45] Edited by: Hiro Protagonist on 31/07/2003 18:38:50 The sheer impudence of asking such a question!!! I'll have you know that TTI is the cause of THE SINGLE BIGGEST POLITICAL CRISIS IN THE GALAXY according to Morkt!!! :P |
Hiro Protagonist Gallente The Scope |
Posted - 2003.07.31 18:38:00 -
[46] Edited by: Hiro Protagonist on 31/07/2003 18:38:50 The sheer impudence of asking such a question!!! I'll have you know that TTI is the cause of THE SINGLE BIGGEST POLITICAL CRISIS IN THE GALAXY according to Morkt!!! :P |
 Derek |
Posted - 2003.07.31 19:41:00 -
[47] /me tips hat to my freinds over at Xanadu _______________________________________________2005.05.02 03:56:57combatYour Mega Pulse Laser II perfectly strikes Sansha's Battletower, wrecking for 1190.5 damage._ |
 Derek Caldari Tachyon Combined Technologies |
Posted - 2003.07.31 19:41:00 -
[48] /me tips hat to my freinds over at Xanadu |
 Visionary |
Posted - 2003.07.31 19:44:00 -
[49] O_O cool flash intro on ur website TTI ! A large miss-eat that I could see those not yet rather... --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 19:44:00 -
[50] O_O cool flash intro on ur website TTI ! A large miss-eat that I could see those not yet rather... --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
 StoreSlem |
Posted - 2003.07.31 21:35:00 -
[51] The Yoda is strong in Visionary. |
StoreSlem Minmatar 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2003.07.31 21:35:00 -
[52] The Yoda is strong in Visionary. "If you were experiencing a lag, it was not server related." |
 Karash Amerius |
Posted - 2003.07.31 22:14:00 -
[53] Interesting Thread |
 Karash Amerius Amarr O.E.C Legionnaire Services Ltd. |
Posted - 2003.07.31 22:14:00 -
[54] Interesting Thread Merc Blog |
Tassadar Beta |
Posted - 2003.07.31 22:38:00 -
[55] This is all very interesting Kusari was one of the 1st corps ever in the Fountain region and we are based in both the Fountain and Aridia regions and all I can say is eh? Slaves to Xanadu your kidding arent you...I havent had anyone from Xan come up to me with a whip and order me to mine that there bistot roid .Waving my forgotten(fountain)Alliance member passport I jump around fountain everyday, and im no smelly minmatar slave  . |
 Tassadar Beta Amarr Miner Protection Guild |
Posted - 2003.07.31 22:38:00 -
[56] This is all very interesting Kusari was one of the 1st corps ever in the Fountain region and we are based in both the Fountain and Aridia regions and all I can say is eh? Slaves to Xanadu your kidding arent you...I havent had anyone from Xan come up to me with a whip and order me to mine that there bistot roid .Waving my forgotten(fountain)Alliance member passport I jump around fountain everyday, and im no smelly minmatar slave . |
Visionary |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:04:00 -
[57] Edited by: Visionary on 31/07/2003 23:22:59 seems nobody else of the alliance r onformed of the 500k isk dayly pass... but in the irc topic u can read "OPs speakin for the alliance" ... and they told me i have to pay... sorry, i don't ask to whom i should give the isk... And with slaves i don't mean to work for them... but if they take money for daily passports to travel in fountain all alliance-members r their tools to make quick isk... and thats not what was told a day before fountain was closed... sorry i am now fully confused... but i am not flying a battleship, so i have respect at a group of 3 or 4 of them ;) --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:04:00 -
[58] Edited by: Visionary on 31/07/2003 23:22:59 seems nobody else of the alliance r onformed of the 500k isk dayly pass... but in the irc topic u can read "OPs speakin for the alliance" ... and they told me i have to pay... sorry, i don't ask to whom i should give the isk... And with slaves i don't mean to work for them... but if they take money for daily passports to travel in fountain all alliance-members r their tools to make quick isk... and thats not what was told a day before fountain was closed... sorry i am now fully confused... but i am not flying a battleship, so i have respect at a group of 3 or 4 of them ;) --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Snoop |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:20:00 -
[59] no one is slaves of xanadu corp. xanadu wont be using the passport system for personal profit. Xanadu are not the evil corp you are trying to make them out to be. |
Snoop Gallente Babylon. |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:20:00 -
[60] no one is slaves of xanadu corp. xanadu wont be using the passport system for personal profit. Xanadu are not the evil corp you are trying to make them out to be. |
Visionary |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:27:00 -
[61] ok... 1st replay we can base a discussin on... so tell me, why i can not fly back to my stuff in YZ-LQL! I named xan, cause the facts r told me by 2 of them... when can i get back to fountain as promised ? a corp made was attacked without askin just on his way out, cause he was not online the day fountain closes and the alliance was not worked out. here is no statement, nothin where i can get information whats goin on. im sittin here with promisses as i left fountain on the one hand, and the facts now on the other! its xan themselves who let them smell like bad guy... lock at all those arrogantly replies here... tell me... what goin on? --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:27:00 -
[62] ok... 1st replay we can base a discussin on... so tell me, why i can not fly back to my stuff in YZ-LQL! I named xan, cause the facts r told me by 2 of them... when can i get back to fountain as promised ? a corp made was attacked without askin just on his way out, cause he was not online the day fountain closes and the alliance was not worked out. here is no statement, nothin where i can get information whats goin on. im sittin here with promisses as i left fountain on the one hand, and the facts now on the other! its xan themselves who let them smell like bad guy... lock at all those arrogantly replies here... tell me... what goin on? --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Bizarre |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:38:00 -
[63] We are not arrogant. Those that replied here, replied with a sarcastic/humoristic reply. Which you interpreted wrong apparently. Xanadu is an honourable corporation, we are not evil pirates as some like to call us. I cannot answer your questions about access to Fountain, you'll have to hop inyo #fountain and PM an op. Deathwing > U LIKE THOSE NUTS ON YA CHIN? |
 Bizarre TAOSP |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:38:00 -
[64] We are not arrogant. Those that replied here, replied with a sarcastic/humoristic reply. Which you interpreted wrong apparently. Xanadu is an honourable corporation, we are not evil pirates as some like to call us. I cannot answer your questions about access to Fountain, you'll have to hop inyo #fountain and PM an op. ------------------------ |
Mandible |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:56:00 -
[65] I have to actualy check with the alliance if i am allowed to get into the region? And you saying you are not arrogant? Wow the nerves :P |
 Mandible |
Posted - 2003.07.31 23:56:00 -
[66] I have to actualy check with the alliance if i am allowed to get into the region? And you saying you are not arrogant? Wow the nerves :P |
Visionary |
Posted - 2003.08.01 00:08:00 -
[67] ROFL
thats what i did yesterday and was told i have to pay 500k isk a day! that why i posted this story! who sorted out the members? my corp is friendly small corp tryin to survive and have fun some hours a day... i want to take part in the alliance and if neccessary i will fight against all PKlers with my heart and my sould... even if i am only in a small thorax! But my corp isn't in the Alliance! Why? what do we need to get in ? it's kind of raccism u chose the members... and now ur will tell me ur behaviour is honorable? sorry... i recoqniced i wont understand all those ironic posts here... but all my fun and stuff and things to do in eve i left in fountain caused by promises... and now? doors r closed and i wont let in! so what? Xanadu shows off as the leader of the alliance... and now u wanna tell me the pirate behaviour of Xanadu is honorable! PAH! i want to go back to my stuff and hunt some NPCs for fun... nothin else... and thats what i said 1000 times... but i was pushed out cause im useless for ur big honorable aliance! PIRATES! nothin else! Fountain was honorable BEFORE xanadu arrives... now its an system like all other blocked 0.0 systems in eve. no chance for small corps... no chance for noops! u r expecting more users in eve LOOOOOOL ... everybody will see in a week that this game has no place left for individuals or small corps and for ppl who r not playin 20 hours a day cause they have reallifes! And all ur ideas mentioned in the genaral discuss forum FA Thread at 1st pos. was only to get the strong under ur coat and supress the weak!  --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.08.01 00:08:00 -
[68] ROFL
thats what i did yesterday and was told i have to pay 500k isk a day! that why i posted this story! who sorted out the members? my corp is friendly small corp tryin to survive and have fun some hours a day... i want to take part in the alliance and if neccessary i will fight against all PKlers with my heart and my sould... even if i am only in a small thorax! But my corp isn't in the Alliance! Why? what do we need to get in ? it's kind of raccism u chose the members... and now ur will tell me ur behaviour is honorable? sorry... i recoqniced i wont understand all those ironic posts here... but all my fun and stuff and things to do in eve i left in fountain caused by promises... and now? doors r closed and i wont let in! so what? Xanadu shows off as the leader of the alliance... and now u wanna tell me the pirate behaviour of Xanadu is honorable! PAH! i want to go back to my stuff and hunt some NPCs for fun... nothin else... and thats what i said 1000 times... but i was pushed out cause im useless for ur big honorable aliance! PIRATES! nothin else! Fountain was honorable BEFORE xanadu arrives... now its an system like all other blocked 0.0 systems in eve. no chance for small corps... no chance for noops! u r expecting more users in eve LOOOOOOL ... everybody will see in a week that this game has no place left for individuals or small corps and for ppl who r not playin 20 hours a day cause they have reallifes! And all ur ideas mentioned in the genaral discuss forum FA Thread at 1st pos. was only to get the strong under ur coat and supress the weak! --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary |
Posted - 2003.08.01 00:09:00 -
[69] Edited by: Visionary on 01/08/2003 00:09:53 sorry ... double post --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.08.01 00:09:00 -
[70] Edited by: Visionary on 01/08/2003 00:09:53 sorry ... double post --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
 Derkan |
Posted - 2003.08.01 02:30:00 -
[71] Edited by: Derkan on 01/08/2003 02:36:19 Fountain alliance is without a doubt is still a good idea. I've never been attacked by other corps while inside fountain. My corp belongs to the FA but still I have yet to see Xanadu or evolution attack anyone without being provoked. I've heard the story's but until I see it with my own eyes there just that, story's. I'm not a slave to Xanadu or Evolution. But being a hauler I am a slave to my corperation. hehehe... Sometimes a willing slave to the FA. But this post of yours Visionary is leaves a bad taste in my mouth. People like you should be rejected from membership. What I see is a trouble maker. Derkan  Those are my 2 isk. http://eve-coldfusion.com |
 Derkan Shiva Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2003.08.01 02:30:00 -
[72] Edited by: Derkan on 01/08/2003 02:36:19 Fountain alliance is without a doubt is still a good idea. I've never been attacked by other corps while inside fountain. My corp belongs to the FA but still I have yet to see Xanadu or evolution attack anyone without being provoked. I've heard the story's but until I see it with my own eyes there just that, story's. I'm not a slave to Xanadu or Evolution. But being a hauler I am a slave to my corperation. hehehe... Sometimes a willing slave to the FA. But this post of yours Visionary is leaves a bad taste in my mouth. People like you should be rejected from membership. What I see is a trouble maker. Derkan Those are my 2 isk. |
barabis |
Posted - 2003.08.01 09:05:00 -
[73] Edited by: barabis on 01/08/2003 09:05:37
Evolution were podding ppl as they were trying to leave a station they had camped outside of on Saturday whilst initially trying to claim the region. To make matters worse they had created so much lag (I'm not saying it was intentional) that the 1st I knew of a confrontation was my frozen corpse floating in space when I eventaully entered space. |
 barabis |
Posted - 2003.08.01 09:05:00 -
[74] Edited by: barabis on 01/08/2003 09:05:37
Evolution were podding ppl as they were trying to leave a station they had camped outside of on Saturday whilst initially trying to claim the region. To make matters worse they had created so much lag (I'm not saying it was intentional) that the 1st I knew of a confrontation was my frozen corpse floating in space when I eventaully entered space. |
Kaiser |
Posted - 2003.08.01 10:04:00 -
[75] CoRM is part of the alliance. I'm not Xanadu or EVOL nor we have close links with them before the alliance was set up. I'd like to point out that: 1) The alliance has been setup on Monday. Anything which happened BEFORE monday is the past (war between 2 factions in fountain mainly) and the new alliance can't be blamed for anything which happened before monday. 2) There are no slaves/minions/whatever in the alliance. It's just that time is needed to set up things going on. you can't make 30 corps alliance working as a perfect ruling body in 1 day. But the rules inside the alliance are based on democratic voting of all corps. Just wait some time before firing accusations which are simply false. 3) Since Fountain Alliance was created (again, MONDAY) ALL members of the alliance behaved within what was agreed. 4) Fountain region rich... i don't know what you were smoking but last times before alliance Fountain were ripped off. It's just pure math: if you get 500 people mining the same 15 systems you make simply the region poor like Imperial space. After all, even in RL, Natural parks are created to preserve their natural richness. 5) All are blaming Fountain alliance now. But other regional alliances are set up, and their policy are far more strict than ours. We are giving members time and time and time to move out and allow them to get inside later (when passes or applications are processed/set up. |
 Kaiser Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.08.01 10:04:00 -
[76] CoRM is part of the alliance. I'm not Xanadu or EVOL nor we have close links with them before the alliance was set up. I'd like to point out that: 1) The alliance has been setup on Monday. Anything which happened BEFORE monday is the past (war between 2 factions in fountain mainly) and the new alliance can't be blamed for anything which happened before monday. 2) There are no slaves/minions/whatever in the alliance. It's just that time is needed to set up things going on. you can't make 30 corps alliance working as a perfect ruling body in 1 day. But the rules inside the alliance are based on democratic voting of all corps. Just wait some time before firing accusations which are simply false. 3) Since Fountain Alliance was created (again, MONDAY) ALL members of the alliance behaved within what was agreed. 4) Fountain region rich... i don't know what you were smoking but last times before alliance Fountain were ripped off. It's just pure math: if you get 500 people mining the same 15 systems you make simply the region poor like Imperial space. After all, even in RL, Natural parks are created to preserve their natural richness. 5) All are blaming Fountain alliance now. But other regional alliances are set up, and their policy are far more strict than ours. We are giving members time and time and time to move out and allow them to get inside later (when passes or applications are processed/set up. |
Visionary |
Posted - 2003.08.01 11:07:00 -
[77] ok.. so the question mark in my topic was answerd with no. to bad nobody understands the weak. i was in fountain at about 4 weeks and makin my isk with huntin NPC, not minin! and i am half way to a battleship. Ok sounds funny to sime of u, but im will be proud to sit in a BS without the help of other! and thats the point why i am so angry about thing goin on these days... the promises where made are now not the reality. I want to take part in the alliance, but was sorted out! no reason why... can u explain me which condition must be fulfilled to take part in the FA ??? sounds to me like i wrote in my story: the strong let in to supress the weak! But ok... i am a troublemaker... thank for stealing me the fun of the game cause i belive the word said before... contact me ingame and i want a indypilot who helps me gettin my stuff to another region. tell me the price! ...and then fountain is history for me! maybe even this game, cause there is definitly no space for beginners and for ppl only wanna have some hours a day fun. --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Visionary Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.08.01 11:07:00 -
[78] ok.. so the question mark in my topic was answerd with no. to bad nobody understands the weak. i was in fountain at about 4 weeks and makin my isk with huntin NPC, not minin! and i am half way to a battleship. Ok sounds funny to sime of u, but im will be proud to sit in a BS without the help of other! and thats the point why i am so angry about thing goin on these days... the promises where made are now not the reality. I want to take part in the alliance, but was sorted out! no reason why... can u explain me which condition must be fulfilled to take part in the FA ??? sounds to me like i wrote in my story: the strong let in to supress the weak! But ok... i am a troublemaker... thank for stealing me the fun of the game cause i belive the word said before... contact me ingame and i want a indypilot who helps me gettin my stuff to another region. tell me the price! ...and then fountain is history for me! maybe even this game, cause there is definitly no space for beginners and for ppl only wanna have some hours a day fun. --------------- "just my 2 isk" |
Kaiser |
Posted - 2003.08.01 11:28:00 -
[79] Edited by: Kaiser on 01/08/2003 11:29:49 EVE is not fountain. Universe is huge. and you are in a Corp so your CEO will surely help you. Btw... beginners means people in firgates or low lvl cruisers in imperial space. 0.0 space is what is meant to be: dangerous. |
Kaiser Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.08.01 11:28:00 -
[80] Edited by: Kaiser on 01/08/2003 11:29:49 EVE is not fountain. Universe is huge. and you are in a Corp so your CEO will surely help you. Btw... beginners means people in firgates or low lvl cruisers in imperial space. 0.0 space is what is meant to be: dangerous. |
Vortex Freeman |
Posted - 2003.08.01 11:52:00 -
[81] Edited by: Vortex Freeman on 01/08/2003 11:54:05 One of my corp members had been active in Fountain region for about 1¢ month prior the creation of the Alliance. He was chased and tracked down like a pirate. Now he has no other option than to relocate. His only business in the region has been to mine, kill pirates and yes... he helped defending the region from pirates too. I see no wrong in the creation of an Alliance to claim a region, but be honest about your intentions. Do not state that you intend to keep the region "free" when you in fact intend to kick everyone out who is not part of the alliance. You must realize the benefits from having open trade with other regions. Just my 2 isk...  --- Vortex Freeman CEO - Roving Guns Inc. ~ Preparatus Supervivet ~ |
 Vortex Freeman Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2003.08.01 11:52:00 -
[82] Edited by: Vortex Freeman on 01/08/2003 11:54:05 One of my corp members had been active in Fountain region for about 1+ month prior the creation of the Alliance. He was chased and tracked down like a pirate. Now he has no other option than to relocate. His only business in the region has been to mine, kill pirates and yes... he helped defending the region from pirates too. I see no wrong in the creation of an Alliance to claim a region, but be honest about your intentions. Do not state that you intend to keep the region "free" when you in fact intend to kick everyone out who is not part of the alliance. You must realize the benefits from having open trade with other regions. Just my 2 isk... |
SirMolle |
Posted - 2003.08.01 12:35:00 -
[83] 1. Fountain region is currently closed to all not in the alliance. 2. People are allowed to leave with escorts or without. 3. People refusing to leave will be forced out. 4. Passes to Fountain will be available at a later date. 5. Applications for being in Fountain reched about 100+ corps, MOST have been processed and put on a waiting list, til the waiting list is processed, they will have to leave. 6. Agressions from any corp not in Fountain Confed. will result in timely removal of the same corp. These are not hard things to understand, nor hard things to do, this is what Fountain Confed. has decided and agreed on. Until Passes to the region is available, all ppl *not* in, or on the waiting list, *will* have to leave. Now, again, monday was when the negotiatins was done, the red tape to handle all this is enourmous, and everything takes time. Again, simple rule of thumb, if not *in*, make sure to leave til everything is sorted. Regardless if your corp has been there for 6 months, 2 days or whatever, if not *ON THE LIST*, vacate the area til you are *ON THE LIST*. And by creating thread such as this, i suspect that you arent really increasing your chances of getting in. The laws in Fountain are being created, not by those outside, but those inside, in the alliance, and whatever you may have to say about the laws we in the allaince creates, these are the facts. Call us bullies, call us pirates, call us whatever you wish, the fact remains that we in the alliance knows why we are doing this, and that it is a democracy within the alliance. For all those who think that might does not make right or laws, i urge you to go to Venal, or Stain. Then come back and say that you could fly around freely in there. If you could, great, but you cannot in Fountain, unless you are a member. |
 SirMolle Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.08.01 12:35:00 -
[84] 1. Fountain region is currently closed to all not in the alliance. 2. People are allowed to leave with escorts or without. 3. People refusing to leave will be forced out. 4. Passes to Fountain will be available at a later date. 5. Applications for being in Fountain reched about 100+ corps, MOST have been processed and put on a waiting list, til the waiting list is processed, they will have to leave. 6. Agressions from any corp not in Fountain Confed. will result in timely removal of the same corp. These are not hard things to understand, nor hard things to do, this is what Fountain Confed. has decided and agreed on. Until Passes to the region is available, all ppl *not* in, or on the waiting list, *will* have to leave. Now, again, monday was when the negotiatins was done, the red tape to handle all this is enourmous, and everything takes time. Again, simple rule of thumb, if not *in*, make sure to leave til everything is sorted. Regardless if your corp has been there for 6 months, 2 days or whatever, if not *ON THE LIST*, vacate the area til you are *ON THE LIST*. And by creating thread such as this, i suspect that you arent really increasing your chances of getting in. The laws in Fountain are being created, not by those outside, but those inside, in the alliance, and whatever you may have to say about the laws we in the allaince creates, these are the facts. Call us bullies, call us pirates, call us whatever you wish, the fact remains that we in the alliance knows why we are doing this, and that it is a democracy within the alliance. For all those who think that might does not make right or laws, i urge you to go to Venal, or Stain. Then come back and say that you could fly around freely in there. If you could, great, but you cannot in Fountain, unless you are a member. |
Amorex |
Posted - 2003.08.01 15:22:00 -
[85] WOW  . Where is on the map says that it is yours?Do you think I will accept such treatment? Did you fought for it? And Why Fountain is EVE only has 10 regions? Why not Vale of Silence? Why not Catch? |
 Amorex Amarr Evil Noobs |
Posted - 2003.08.01 15:22:00 -
[86] WOW . Where is on the map says that it is yours?Do you think I will accept such treatment? Did you fought for it? And Why Fountain is EVE only has 10 regions? Why not Vale of Silence? Why not Catch? |
 Skillz |
Posted - 2003.08.01 16:24:00 -
[87] Edited by: Skillz on 01/08/2003 16:26:48 Sir Molle would surely admit that he's has tolls at the gates and is a pirate, with all that follows it. Unlike those intellectual prostitutes that are at the bottom of the universe and spends their days trying to deny it. Typical behaviour of alcholists in regard to drinking habits actually. Defender of Truth, Justice, ********* and Beer in aluminium cans! Keep on flaming, lamers. |
 Skillz Amarr |
Posted - 2003.08.01 16:24:00 -
[88] Edited by: Skillz on 01/08/2003 16:26:48 Sir Molle would surely admit that he's has tolls at the gates and is a pirate, with all that follows it. Unlike those intellectual prostitutes that are at the bottom of the universe and spends their days trying to deny it. Typical behaviour of alcholists in regard to drinking habits actually. Defender of Truth, Justice, ********* and Beer in aluminium cans! Keep on flaming, lamers. |
Derkan |
Posted - 2003.08.01 23:10:00 -
[89] Isn't there like 100 different regions to go to? The FA owns that region. Theres plenty of regions to move to. Why flame the FA? Will that make it any easier of the corps/people that aren't in the FA? No. The corps in the FA are working hard to keep fountain safe. It will take some time to sort things out. With every new corperation theres some problems. But the FA are a bunch of corperations that see that fountain can be a peaceful region without the aid of Concord. Just let the powers in Fountain do their job. In fountain, security is very tight. The Fa has warned all pilots of that. If you come down there you will be asked to leave. How hard is that to understand? Derkan.  http://eve-coldfusion.com |
Derkan Shiva Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2003.08.01 23:10:00 -
[90] Isn't there like 100 different regions to go to? The FA owns that region. Theres plenty of regions to move to. Why flame the FA? Will that make it any easier of the corps/people that aren't in the FA? No. The corps in the FA are working hard to keep fountain safe. It will take some time to sort things out. With every new corperation theres some problems. But the FA are a bunch of corperations that see that fountain can be a peaceful region without the aid of Concord. Just let the powers in Fountain do their job. In fountain, security is very tight. The Fa has warned all pilots of that. If you come down there you will be asked to leave. How hard is that to understand? Derkan. |
agrizla |
Posted - 2003.08.02 02:32:00 -
[91] Edited by: agrizla on 02/08/2003 02:34:27 Well all I can say is I hope there's not many manufacturing corps in the FA. I know there's at least one because they lost 4 mill of sales to me in the past couple of days as I'm not going anywhere near Fountain. 4 mill isn't a lot but I'm a freelancer so add it up  I'm sure you can all suck it up right now but what are you going to do in the future (tech 2) when you need manufactured goods to produce items? There's enough stories (true or otherwise) coming out of all these alliances to put any small corp or freelancer off ever dealing with them. I suspect these goods will become like trit is now - just about worthless until you suddenly realise that you can't do anything without it and you need a hell of a lot of it right now. It'll be interesting to see what happens to all the corps in these alliances when (or if) mega ceases to be the single most important thing in Eve..... |
 agrizla |
Posted - 2003.08.02 02:32:00 -
[92] Edited by: agrizla on 02/08/2003 02:34:27 Well all I can say is I hope there's not many manufacturing corps in the FA. I know there's at least one because they lost 4 mill of sales to me in the past couple of days as I'm not going anywhere near Fountain. 4 mill isn't a lot but I'm a freelancer so add it up I'm sure you can all suck it up right now but what are you going to do in the future (tech 2) when you need manufactured goods to produce items? There's enough stories (true or otherwise) coming out of all these alliances to put any small corp or freelancer off ever dealing with them. I suspect these goods will become like trit is now - just about worthless until you suddenly realise that you can't do anything without it and you need a hell of a lot of it right now. It'll be interesting to see what happens to all the corps in these alliances when (or if) mega ceases to be the single most important thing in Eve..... |
 Sybell Amarr Quantum Tunneling Enterprises |
Posted - 2007.04.08 02:21:00 -
[93] Id do Kelly preston |
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