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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.05.03 01:10:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's not that simple though, because on the flipside are people who will take advantage of that to use downtime for their own safety.
Let's say someone has to move a titan from one system to another, but he can't do it because the enemy knows he plans to move and has prepared a fleet to take him out. However, downtime is approaching. The pilot could choose to jump just before downtime so that his enemy doesn't have enough time to take him out, and then after downtime log a scouting character into that system to ensure that the enemy leaves before he logs the titan character in again.
I don't see what this has to do with aggression timers. Even if you guys managed to get aggression before downtime, the downtime may last more than 15 minutes. So I guess what you're really wanting is for all the aggression timers to be paused during downtime?
I guess the question is whether you think it's better to have a hole where someone can move a ship or where hundreds of people per day get force logged out and log back in to a pod and an alpha clone?
-Liang
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TheNewestTwin
Avalon Project
Shadow Rock Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.03 01:10:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.03 01:59:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:It's not that simple though, because on the flipside are people who will take advantage of that to use downtime for their own safety.
Let's say someone has to move a titan from one system to another, but he can't do it because the enemy knows he plans to move and has prepared a fleet to take him out. However, downtime is approaching. The pilot could choose to jump just before downtime so that his enemy doesn't have enough time to take him out, and then after downtime log a scouting character into that system to ensure that the enemy leaves before he logs the titan character in again. I don't see what this has to do with aggression timers. Even if you guys managed to get aggression before downtime, the downtime may last more than 15 minutes. So I guess what you're really wanting is for all the aggression timers to be paused during downtime? I guess the question is whether you think it's better to have a hole where someone can move a ship or where hundreds of people per day get force logged out and log back in to a pod and an alpha clone? -Liang
No, what I'm asking for is no downtime at all, but since that's obviously impractical we might as well just deal with what we have now.
I wasn't even replying to you actually but I forgot who it was since I started writing it and came back to it later. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.05.03 04:05:00 -
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Well, no down time at all would obviously be superior - but that seems somewhat unlikely from a practical perspective. ;-)
-Liang
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Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
3532
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Posted - 2013.05.03 05:08:00 -
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@ Liang
I'm assuming you are looking out for the little guy, which is fine. How do you feel about super capitals abusing this? Are you OK with super capitals engaging in combat with 100% impunity? What if aggression carrying over past downtime only applied to super capitals?
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Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
936
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Posted - 2013.05.03 07:22:00 -
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I'm perfectly fine with SOLAR dropping half a dozen titans and doomsdaying the **** out of a slowcat fleet 30 seconds before downtime.
I watched the video, it was epic.
But from a game design perspective it's a no-brainer. DT is DT is DT and a person should not be obligated to stop everything they're doing for an hour or more just in case DT lasts longer than expected. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.05.03 14:42:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:@ Liang
I'm assuming you are looking out for the little guy, which is fine. How do you feel about super capitals abusing this? Are you OK with super capitals engaging in combat with 100% impunity? What if aggression carrying over past downtime only applied to super capitals?
Breaking the game for the 99% to fix the 1% is just ********. So yes, I'm fine with super caps abusing this just as I'm fine with losing 100mn Tengu killmails.
-Liang
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Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
3536
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Posted - 2013.05.03 18:02:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:@ Liang
I'm assuming you are looking out for the little guy, which is fine. How do you feel about super capitals abusing this? Are you OK with super capitals engaging in combat with 100% impunity? What if aggression carrying over past downtime only applied to super capitals? Breaking the game for the 99% to fix the 1% is just ********. So yes, I'm fine with super caps abusing this just as I'm fine with losing 100mn Tengu killmails. -Liang
Did you even read what I wrote? 
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Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Atrocitas
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Posted - 2013.05.03 18:08:00 -
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I did, and I answered it.
-Liang
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