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Myriad Blaze
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:09:00 -
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I decided to share this because I think itGÇÖs somewhat funny, even though the laugh is on me. In my defense I would like to mention that I was really tired GÇô from a long day at work in conjunction with a side effect from my hay fever medication GǪ a poor excuse, I know. 
I recently trained into a Tengu for exploration. Because almost everyone seems to claim how good it is for running missions I decided to try it for missions, too.
Ok, for L4s I needed dps GǪ I decided to fit HAMs, BCS and DCU in the lows and despite having doubts I followed some advice and fitted an active tank in the mids. Because of PG issues and to improve performance I switched most mods from T2 to faction and added a Pith C-Type medium shield booster. 
To test it, I asked my agent for a random mission which brought me to Irjunen (a 0.5 system). I warped to the mission entry GÇô an accelerator gate GÇô and entered the mission. I was in the second room GÇô fighting red crosses and microsleep GÇô when I noticed some white squares on the overview:
GÇ£Strange.GÇ¥, I thought, GÇ£ArenGÇÖt NPCs supposed to appear as red crosses on the overview? Besides, I ran this mission several times before and I canGÇÖt remember seeing this before.GÇ¥
I killed one of the small red crosses and opened fire on another. Then I took a closer look at those white squares.
GÇ£Ah, Catalysts, two flights of five ships each. But what the heck are other players doing in my mission, it makes no sense?GÇ¥, I wondered. 
I finished off another NPC and while I still wondered why 10 Catalysts appeared in my mission, my mouse hand GÇô acting on its own because my brain was somewhere else GÇô clicked on a celestial that was more or less right in front of my ship and activated warp, which almost instantly moved my ship to (relative) safety. 
GÇ£Ok, what now?GÇ¥, I thought. GÇ£HmmGǪ I should really get some sleep. But on the other hand there is this mission here and itGÇÖs almost finished. Guess it doesnGÇÖt hurt to finish it now and go to sleep after.GÇ¥
So I turned my ship around and warped back to the mission gate where I found 10 Catalysts waiting for me. 
GÇ£More Catalysts? Where do all those Catalysts come from? There must be a nest somewhere.GÇ¥ Then it dawned on me. GÇ£Wait! Maybe theyGÇÖre after me. Maybe theyGÇÖre here to gank me?GÇ¥, I thought somewhat puzzled. 
The Catalysts turned red almost instantly. Yes! They were there to put an end to my misery:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=17580466
Kudos for some nice loot.
Note to self: DonGÇÖt fly expensive ships when half asleep or at least get half a brain. 
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Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:18:00 -
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The loot fairy smiles upon those that gank missionbears.
And yes, it's a lesson everyone needs to learn.
AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431
Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618
An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:18:00 -
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I'm sure I speak for your new friends when I say that we're just proud to be of service, ma'am.
Monk for CSM
Belligerent Undesirables Blog. |
James 420
New Order of GAY
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:23:00 -
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I seriously hope this is staged.
Proud enforcer of 420 BLAZE IT |
Myriad Blaze
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Posted - 2013.05.03 08:32:00 -
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James 420 wrote:I seriously hope this is staged.
Oh, I wish.
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Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.03 09:50:00 -
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Catalyst
Glordian
Federal Navy Academy
None
Catalyst (Destroyer)
200mm Light Prototype Automatic Cannon
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Oliver G
G Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.05.03 10:25:00 -
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Oh it even hurts to read it. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
1215
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Posted - 2013.05.03 10:37:00 -
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It seems several of these catalysts had autocannons on them.
Whut?
Monk for CSM
Belligerent Undesirables Blog. |
Kristopher Rocancourt
Quality Assurance
The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2013.05.03 11:12:00 -
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Psychotic Monk wrote:It seems several of these catalysts had autocannons on them.
Whut?
people do that just to drive the knife deeper in the back by saying "i got killed by THAT?"
Proud member of MYM8 Jita Police.
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Bi-Mi Lansatha
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.03 11:19:00 -
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Myriad Blaze wrote:... I was in the second room GÇô fighting red crosses and microsleep GÇô when I noticed some white squares on the overview:
GÇ£Strange.GÇ¥, I thought, GÇ£ArenGÇÖt NPCs supposed to appear as red crosses on the overview? Besides, I ran this mission several times before and I canGÇÖt remember seeing this before.GÇ¥
I killed one of the small red crosses and opened fire on another. Then I took a closer look at those white squares...
A 'white' showed up in a mission and you didn't run? |
Aducat Ragnarson
Cult of the Black Goat
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.05.03 11:20:00 -
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Damage selection. Why would anyone shoot blasters at a Tengu?
In addition, I guess these gank alts are not trained to fly a thrasher, so make do with what you got. |
Froggy Storm
Paxton Industries
Gentlemen's Agreement
29
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Posted - 2013.05.03 11:30:00 -
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Oh the pain... then again it was a brain dead moment in a travel Loki at a FW disco gate party that I finally got over that gut lurch feeling when I explode. So maybe there is a silver lining in there if you if it means you can laugh off a loss and remember ships are supposed to blow up. Which it seems you have by offering the account here and without claiming it was some kind of failing that the game didn't protect you from yourself.
Congratulations for creating content in hisec! |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2013.05.03 12:09:00 -
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That fit deserved to die. |
Myriad Blaze
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Posted - 2013.05.03 14:34:00 -
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Derath Ellecon wrote:That fit deserved to die.
Well, if you google for Tengu + fitting you will find quite a few people suggesting a very similar fitting.
Anyway, I agree that the fit is not very good. It did not do what I intended to achieve and it was too expensive (not) doing that.
In hindsight I should have tried my buffer tank idea first (not at my own PC atm but I think it has around 180 EHP or so, before overheating). It would have been much cheaper and considering the mission had NPCs doing EM damage I even might have survivied the gank (gankers were using EM ammo).  Then again, maybe not. I will not go back with my other Tengu to try and find out.
Edit: At least not without some boosting and some backup.  |
Selene Nask
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:16:00 -
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Ha I can relate. My excuse is being just new and rather clueless.
I finally got the BC skill and fitted a new shiny. Off to try it out on some mission. I puttered through a few.
Then....white squares?
Hmm wait where am I? I though I was in a mission. Never seen white squares in one. Wait those are other players. What are these people doing.....
BANG!
I was so slow to realize what was going on that I got podded.
It was hilarious and I had a good laugh with the shooters afterwards.
EVE cracks me up. |
Tarsas Phage
Freight Club
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:35:00 -
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Myriad Blaze wrote:I decided to share this because I think itGÇÖs somewhat funny, even though the laugh is on me. In my defense I would like to mention that I was really tired GÇô from a long day at work in conjunction with a side effect from my hay fever medication GǪ a poor excuse, I know.
I have to say while your ship's death really isn't that notable (pimp tengus are often a lucrative target), your response to the whole thing is. All too often such happenings result in the victim rageposting here or elsewhere, demanding that CCP do something, or worse, threaten to exact some sort of out-of-game revenge on the perps, to even quitting the game for reals (a sad conclusion all things considered)
But hats off to you, and I hope you get back to normal without much trouble. |
Cap James Tkirk
Soldiers of Farscape
Synthetic Systems
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:47:00 -
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fighting sansha with two adaptives no wonder he was getting murdered thats a derp  |
Selene Nask
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:55:00 -
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Tarsas Phage wrote:Myriad Blaze wrote:I decided to share this because I think itGÇÖs somewhat funny, even though the laugh is on me. In my defense I would like to mention that I was really tired GÇô from a long day at work in conjunction with a side effect from my hay fever medication GǪ a poor excuse, I know. I have to say while your ship's death really isn't that notable (pimp tengus are often a lucrative target), your response to the whole thing is. All too often such happenings result in the victim rageposting here or elsewhere, demanding that CCP do something, or worse, threaten to exact some sort of out-of-game revenge on the perps, to even quitting the game for reals (a sad conclusion all things considered) But hats off to you, and I hope you get back to normal without much trouble.
This is one thing, even after reading various accounts that I don't get. I don't get how people can think that they will never lose a ship in this game. Most of my deaths to players while PVEing are due to my own mistakes or when knowingly doing something riskier in low sec. And yeah I just expect that at some point I'll be in the wrong place at the wrong time and just get jumped.
Losing a nice ship does suck of course, but meh whatever it usually just cracks me up. They win and I lose this round. The only thing I find really annoying about it is having to take the time to get and fit another one. It's a pain. |
Michael Loney
Skullspace Industries
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Posted - 2013.05.03 15:59:00 -
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And to everyone who says you can fight ganking by War Dec'ing the gankers...
ALL OF THEM ARE IN NPC CORPS!
Sucks that that people so willing to fight that they suicide gank can't be bothered to get into a corp and fight ... wait, then there's risk involved ... |
Selene Nask
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
25
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:20:00 -
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Michael Loney wrote:And to everyone who says you can fight ganking by War Dec'ing the gankers...
ALL OF THEM ARE IN NPC CORPS!
Sucks that that people so willing to fight that they suicide gank can't be bothered to get into a corp and fight ... wait, then there's risk involved ...
Well if they gank you, you get kill rights. No need to wardec if you just want to try to get them back. |
Tarsas Phage
Freight Club
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Posted - 2013.05.03 16:20:00 -
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Michael Loney wrote:And to everyone who says you can fight ganking by War Dec'ing the gankers...
ALL OF THEM ARE IN NPC CORPS!
Sucks that that people so willing to fight that they suicide gank can't be bothered to get into a corp and fight ... wait, then there's risk involved ...
Ganking is a single-purpose role for many chars. They're trained specifically to do just that. You might be surprised of the number of chars used to gank are controlled by a person whose mains actually do what you state - wardecs, low-sec piracy, 0.0 guys and the like.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Khalkotauroi Defence Labs
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Posted - 2013.05.03 18:05:00 -
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Michael Loney wrote:
ALL OF THEM ARE IN NPC CORPS!
No they are not, while a large percentage may well be in NPC corps there are many gankers that are not. For example Goonswarm and their cohorts gank under the Miniluv flag, on characters that are in those organisations, James' merry little band fly under the CODE(dot) banner, the entire alliance consists of gankers although they do bring unaffiliated friends to the party, and there are many other player corporations and alliances that specialise in the removal of ships goods and implants from the unwary, and more importantly from the game, what they do helps drive the demand for ships and modules, and probably represents the cause of a goodly chunk of market transactions
The fact of the matter is that most gankers are shoot on sight with no Concord interference, their -5 or better /worse (depends who you ask  ) security status' and pretty colours in local are there to inform you of this status, and as a badge of dishonour /honour (once again, it depends who you ask).
OP your attitude is excellent, you'll do well here if you stick with it.
A war hasn't been fought this badly since Olaf the Hairy, High Chief of all the Vikings, accidentally ordered 80,000 battle helmets with the horns on the inside. |
Michael Loney
Skullspace Industries
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:10:00 -
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I understand that most 'pro' gankers are all in player corporations.
I understand that most of them are quick-flip biomass.
No one will war-dec a gank corp because it is about as useful as wearing a hornets nest as underpants, fun for them and much butt hurt for you.
After the Tags4Sec goes live there will likely be a slowdown on the bio-mass option as you can buy your sec rating back to make sure people don't take off when you drop in local ( and to a lesser extent, police hunting you down )
It is when you want to try and protect against a gank squad and they are all in NPC corps. There is no pro-active option other than to CONCORD yourself and they get a pretty fireworks show. |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks
Petition Blizzard
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:00:00 -
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Biomassing a character with negative sec status for the purpose of rolling another one is an exploit and nobody does it. Please don't make such accusations without some kind of proof.
Monk for CSM
Belligerent Undesirables Blog. |
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