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Calathorn Virpio
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Posted - 2013.05.04 02:00:00 -
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translation: we listened to the bitter vets and decided to shaft new players by raising cost on some of the best ships out there, as we LIKE money and believe a person should have to play 6 months before they can HOPE to afford a single BS BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
more shenanigans plz
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Calathorn Virpio
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Posted - 2013.05.04 02:07:00 -
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course they like ISK sinks, they don't want anyone flying anything fun for the first year and a half of playing "even new players should have no trouble enduring the bump in cost."
bullshit: 6 months active playtime, still can't easily afford one without buying and selling a plex.....oh wait, that's what CCP wants BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
more shenanigans plz
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Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.04 02:30:00 -
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Tonto Auri wrote:CCP Rise wrote:The tier 3s worked as a good bar because they show that if battleships are balanced well they are perfectly consumable at the tier 3 price. What a bullshit of a statement. Tier 3 "worked" exactly because of it being tier 3. Outperforming everything by a huge margin. Argumenting this way earn you no credibility at all.
CCP desires money, what better way than to make the only viable option for people who DON'T have a moon goo monopoly to be forced to pay plex for anything bigger then a T3 BC? BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
more shenanigans plz
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Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.04 03:20:00 -
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Rovinia wrote:Perhaps 10% - 20% more tank overall for BS?
Generaly i have no problems with these changes, but the performance gap between BS and BC is allready low... Some Battlecruiser reach allmost as much tank as some BS.... And the damage you gain by flying a battleship is not THAT high... Something has to make up for the lack of agility and speed.
Just make them a bit more tough. These are ships designed for direct face-to-face standoffs and should be able to take a beating (or more of it) ;)
that sounded logical, CCP will never listen. remember, in the OP, CCP has already stated that for all intents and purposes, this is how it will be (baring another jita riots) BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
more shenanigans plz
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Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:39:00 -
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Hagika wrote:Illest Insurrectionist wrote:Hagika wrote:Illest Insurrectionist wrote:Jayrendo Karr wrote:OH BOY, MORE BARRIERS TO ENTRY FOR NEW PLAYERS!!! 1. New players shouldn't be flying battleships. They lack the support skills. They lack the financial support for replacement. 2. Bigger doesn't equal more fun. 3. The other re-balancing efforts have made great strides for newer players across the board. Good job completely ignoring those. Because every Joe Schmoe has a right to jump from his Pinto to a Flashy 300,000 dollar 600 horsepower Ferrari. It may not be smart and he will more than likely crash it, but its his right to do it. Same rule applies here. They may not be ready for a BS, but when they lose it, they gain experience on why not they should not be flying it. It also provides us prowlers a yummy kill. People do not need to be hand held and directed to fly certain ships as pushed by the Devs or isk cost. My first real loss when I was a noob years ago was bringing out a Navy raven to a small gang fight. I had it poorly fitted and blew most of my isk on it. When it got smashed, i realized my mistake real quick. People need that reminder., because most fail to listen to others because they do not like being told what to do in a game they play for fun. They need to really understand why they do not need to be in it, by taking that loss and feeling the effects. Did I also mention it gives us older players a yummy kill? No. This is EVE. You have a right to nothing. My 15$ a month and training, says i have a right to fly what ever i choose.
seconded
(the school of hard nocks, the only place you will ever learn anything of value, sadly most americans never meet the requirments to attend) BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
more shenanigans plz
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Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.04 04:41:00 -
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Hagika wrote:Emu Meo wrote:Alexa Coates wrote:wait so you're telling me all bs's will have similar prices? AND they're going to be shittier than current? Have you been living in a alternate universe which is a direct parallel to our own? ;) No, some people are just oblivious to the real world and like living under a rock. They are also the same people who cover their ears.. say, I cant hear you and scream lalalalalalalala over and over.
i do believe this is a perfect description of CCP at times BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
more shenanigans plz
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Calathorn Virpio
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:04:00 -
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Diziet Thomas wrote:The dev blog is pretty clear. CCP wants the battleships to cost more because eve players are rich.
The spin about making sure that mineral usage would change if they reduced the build cost to tier 2 levels is just spin. if they were honest about the subject they would just determine what the actual average mineral usage for battleship manufacturing is and set the number at that point. Sounds like it should be easy to quantify and still be able to make happy hour.
Instead they state in the dev blog eve players are rich they can afford it. If people don't like it don't buy it.
lol, EVE players are NOT rich, null sec allainces are loaded, or was i mistaken about the fact that 70% of all wealth is in the hands of a few players? BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
more shenanigans plz
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Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:12:00 -
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BiggestT wrote:Insurance better damn well cover these price increases, and I mean an exact relative refund to the increase so the %payout of insurance increases a little from current payouts (so the isk loss per hull remains the same). If not: Congratulations on a futile effort. You boost battleships by a tiny amount. Then you increase costs by a significant amount. Seem fair? I think not! Hell the rokh was nerfed, the scorp gets a low slot and the raven gets a med slot and loses ehp. (But their sig got better!!!11) The domi loses a damage bonus too. And then you increase huge price hikes like this!?? Raven was what (correct me if wrong), ~140mill, Scorp was ~100mill. Now they're ~230... TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY MILLION?? NO ONE will fly a raven, scorp, mega, domi etc. etc. etc if you don't increase insurance significantly. This may actually hurt producers if no one will buy their product! What a waste of time this battleship reiteration was, we were better off before  You want a bigger isk sink? Guess what, the average joe of Eve isn't some multi-billionare moon miner that can throw away their isk, you're not helping anyone. /rant.
i like this, points out the critical flaws
(and don't forget the Ammar BS's, CCP seems to be going along the lines of "lets **** up every ship that's NOT gallente or minmmatar") BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
I attended the School of Hard Nocks, the only place you will ever learn anything of value, sadly most Americans never meet the requirments to attend
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Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:36:00 -
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Taritura wrote:That's happens when economist start saying what the game should look like.... I'm having more doubts that CCP at all plays the game. You need to stop watching the excel and try to play the game.... Yeah you might say it's balanced but it's f... useless at that price.
they play the game, only problem is...they have infinite isk!
oh! and can spawn in whatever ship they want, WHEREVER they want.....or did y'all forget the capitals in luminare? BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
I attended the School of Hard Nocks, the only place you will ever learn anything of value, sadly most Americans never meet the requirments to attend
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Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.04 05:47:00 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:This will really hurt newer players.
If they are smart and follow the 'don't fly it if you can't afford to lose it' - it will be a lot longer until they can get into a battleship hull than it is now. If they are foolish and get into a BS hull before they can afford a loss, the likely loss will hurt them even more.
Given that, for ~4-5m SP pilots, battleships are by far the best PVE ships available to them, this will hurt PVE oriented newbies badly. And it will also result in less battleships fielded in PVP engagements - players with 1-2b in assets won't be able to shrug off a Dominix loss the way they can now.
This will lead to more risk aversion, just as the changes to t1 cruisers have made newer players less willing to risk one of those in PVP than they were a year ago when the boats were a lot cheaper.
agreed, fully fitted a maller and did a double take at the hit my wallet took.
and CCP seem to forget that mission runners=BPC's, salvage, and decent random module drops.
keep screwing over the new players and they wont come back, prices will rise on modules and faction items......the list goes on, people may sneer at the mission runners, but try finding navy ships and **** without them..... BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
I attended the School of Hard Nocks, the only place you will ever learn anything of value, sadly most Americans never meet the requirments to attend
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Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.04 06:01:00 -
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Naomi Knight wrote:Hagika wrote:
More proof in that from how they just buffed the Matar dread and removed the launchers and put it to turrets and gave it a huge bonus, turning it into pretty much the best dread in game, and said nothing about the phoenix and nothing on capital missile weapons.
:) Oh i love that dread boost , the naglfar will be so minmatar , with being just better than the other dreads it is so minmatarish. Also love how the loki became the no1 t3 ship for pvp too, ccp-s quick reaction to nerf the tengu payed off pretty well. Isnt it strange when a caldari boat shows up on top 20 it suddenly gets a nerf? Falcon->nerfed Drake-> nerfed+will be nerfed as it still shows up on the list Tengu->nerfed Rokh->soon to be nerfed Naga->probably will get a nerf soon^^ but when minmatar ships are there nothing is done as they work as intended,intended to be the superior ships for pvp
leave my rokh and naga alone! BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
I attended the School of Hard Nocks, the only place you will ever learn anything of value, sadly most Americans never meet the requirments to attend
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Calathorn Virpio
Golden Construction Inc. Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:46:00 -
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seeing as there will soon be no more "teirs" and all the BS's will cost around the same price, will we one day get to see naval variants of oh, say the rokh, abbadon, and the other current T3 BS's? kinda feels ****** with them being the only ones without an upper level variant..... BRING BACK THE JUKEBOX
I attended the School of Hard Nocks, the only place you will ever learn anything of value, sadly most Americans never meet the requirments to attend
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