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Shrue
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Posted - 2005.10.05 05:50:00 -
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Patch Engineering Removes Vagabond Sales From Market
Rokofur, Heimatar; 2105.10.05
At a press conference in the offices of Patch Engineering today, CEO Shrue, calling the Vagabond market "absurd price gouging", announced that Patch will no longer offer Vagabonds on the market.
Public Relations Officere Sultana stated, "We have learned that a competing corporation in our region, who also manufacture and sell Vagabonds, although at a highly inflated price, is buying our ships to resell at their prices."
"We are aware that, in terms of the ruthlessness of the marketplace, this can be considered appropriate, even recommended, behavior. However, Patch Engineering built its reputation on honest and fair business practices. For the last 10 months, Shrue, first in Zone 5 and lately in Patch Engineering, has provided Vagabonds at reasonable prices to pilots and corporations of all political stripes and social positions equally."
"Since we view the market now closed to us because of these predatory business practices, we ask that all previous customers continue to contact us privately, and that any potential new customers look for our announcement of ship sales in the Ships Trade channel or contact us directly."
Rokofur, Heimatar
Patch Engineering Works
Shrue, CEO
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Sovereign1100
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Posted - 2005.10.05 13:49:00 -
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Holy crap,
A production corp with morals. You just gained a customer. Expect a Eve-mail from me soon, and start building me 2 vagabonds =)
Sov - respect to you for trying to beat down these underhanded market tactics.
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Heraklitus Nomidzon
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Posted - 2005.10.05 17:27:00 -
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The infrastructure of the interstellar markets ought to allow us capsuleers to engage in economic warfare by letting us put trade embargos on selected individuals and corporations in order to combat this sort of stuff. Ship Producers with morals, such as Shrue, shouldn't have to sell his goods to anyone he considers to be abusing his prices.
It seems the markets could use an overhaul in this regard.
Oh, and Hi Shrue. o/ 
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2005.10.05 18:37:00 -
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market cornering...
...sometimes I just hate it
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SageOfMystery
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Posted - 2005.10.05 19:44:00 -
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Edited by: SageOfMystery on 05/10/2005 19:45:01
I doubt you only sell vagabonds, do you have a list of other ships/mods you can offer us without these "inflated" prices?
Also good move, and pritty cool just hope you can get the word out enough as to not give this competitor of yours more profit.
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Marko Debreault
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Posted - 2005.10.06 04:44:00 -
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Marko Debreault considered the Galnet news feed his office intern had forwarded him. So, his old friend Shrue was making waves.
There was serious isk in the tech2 production market. He'd be surprised if Shrue's stance didn't earn him a few enemies.
"Sally, set up an office in Rokofur. I want to have some assets the area in case things get exciting down there."
Sally's dulcet tones echoed over his headset, "Sure thing, Marko. Anything in specific?"
"Just the usual strike kit. Call it a hunch."
"Consider it done."
He sat back and considered the politics of the situation. The twisting path that ended in ship explosions began, as usual, with isk.
He wouldn't have it any other way.
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Der Schaffende
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Posted - 2005.10.06 17:03:00 -
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Holy crap,
A production corp with morals. You just gained a customer. Expect a Eve-mail from me soon, and start building me 2 vagabonds =)
Sry, but I fail to see the morals here. I cannot understand how its "moral" not to charge the market price for an item.
Some people really urgently need Vagabond, others dont. With market prices, those people who need a Vagabond most will also have the chance to get it, as naturally they are willing to pay more for it.
With your system its those guys who read the forums/know you personally that will get the cheap deal, not those who need the Vagabonds most.
A monopoly is only bad if people actually try to curb supply in order to rise prices. But as long as you are running your BPO non-stop, its perfectly fine that you sell at market prices - everything else is immoral.
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Shrue
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Posted - 2005.10.06 17:12:00 -
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Thank you all for the support and good to see you again, Marko. I'm afraid there won't be any action here. They hide behind alts in noob corps. No guts, no balls. Sort of a lower form of ore thief.
They sent an alt to ask if I would contract to sell all my production to them at a price higher than my normal retail. Let's see if they buy the garbage I escrowed to them disguised as Vagabonds.
Shrue
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.10.06 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Der Schaffende
A monopoly is only bad if people actually try to curb supply in order to rise prices. But as long as you are running your BPO non-stop, its perfectly fine that you sell at market prices - everything else is immoral.
It's immoral to sell at a price BELOW the astronomically-inflated market price? How's that again?
-Wrayeth
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2005.10.06 22:05:00 -
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The market can be so...impersonal. I'm sure that adopting a more personal approach to business will pay off for you.
So, Vagabonds, eh? I've always liked the looks of those...
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at stars.
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MrMorph
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Posted - 2005.10.08 08:28:00 -
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I havent seen 1 vaga on market from them for less than 50 mill, so morals ? I think not. Scamming carebear wannabees. I will be seeing you in space !
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Stratosfear
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Posted - 2005.10.08 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Wrayeth
Originally by: Der Schaffende
A monopoly is only bad if people actually try to curb supply in order to rise prices. But as long as you are running your BPO non-stop, its perfectly fine that you sell at market prices - everything else is immoral.
It's immoral to sell at a price BELOW the astronomically-inflated market price? How's that again?
Yeah, economics is hard to understand sometimes, but generally let's not get morality involved here. It neither moral or immoral to set the price as one sees fit. Their vagabonds, they decide. As long as the BPO is in factory 24/7. |
The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.10.08 18:36:00 -
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The name of your corporation is strangely familiar... are the names Kirth Gersen and Kokkor Hekkus familiar to you by any chance?
Just wondering.
In any event, a noble act of restraint in today's marketplace.
The Cosmopolite
Voice of the Freecaptains
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Kurron
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Posted - 2005.10.08 19:27:00 -
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And, of course, what will happen is this:
Buy.
Escrow to an anonymous associate.
Resell at market price.
Repeat.
Not very economically savvy.
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Shrue
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Posted - 2005.10.09 07:07:00 -
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Cosmopolite - Yes, indeed. Do you recognize Shrue? Friend of Rialto.
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The Cosmopolite
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Posted - 2005.10.09 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Shrue
Cosmopolite - Yes, indeed. Do you recognize Shrue? Friend of Rialto.
The noted diabolist, yes.
Good to see another Vancian abroad. 
The Cosmopolite
Voice of the Freecaptains
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Vishnej
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Posted - 2005.10.15 06:36:00 -
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Edited by: Vishnej on 15/10/2005 06:37:56
Best way to handle a situation like this, with a long-production time and a small, easily vultured market: a publicized Dutch auction -based website. Highest bid at the time that the next ship pops out gets it.
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