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Quentin Marshall
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Posted - 2013.05.07 20:39:00 -
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My main belongs in a small PVP lowsec corp. We were thinking of joining Caldari FW to help turn the tide. I am wondering if there any respectable lowsec PVP alliances in Caldari Factional Warfare? I know there is a recruitment forum but I just wanted to seek opinions from others rather than get pitched.
It seems like there are decent Gallente corps and alliances but my CEO and I have had difficult time finding an alliance that could fly respectable fleets (eg; not kitchen sink) with a solid Killboard. Are we not looking in the right place? Can anyone here make any recommendations? |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.05.07 20:50:00 -
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From the Gallente perspective, two Caldari alliances stand out as competent and relatively drama free (which isn't saying much for the Caldari militia :) )
Caldari State Capturing Templis Dragonaors |

Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.05.07 20:55:00 -
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Chatgris is right.
Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha. |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:16:00 -
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Quote:I am wondering if there any respectable lowsec PVP alliances in Caldari Factional Warfare?
Hell no. Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |

Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.05.08 05:59:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Quote:I am wondering if there any respectable lowsec PVP alliances in Caldari Factional Warfare? Hell no.
Agreed. Join QCats - they're the top dogs now and need to remain there. Also, they aren't afraid of fighting. Mad respect.
So yes...more pew Blues always mean lost opportunity Arma Purgatorium - For the State, For the Corporation Faction Warfare, PvP, Training
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Rob Lorence
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:45:00 -
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There are also other decent alliances in caldari mil (one i'm in i.e ) If your corp has good FC's then its just a matter of joining an alliance with enough members who can follow fleet orders, decide on a specific doctrine and ask members to have the specific ships ready on time for ops.. If it goes well then ppl will keep on coming :)
The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's.. Then again its also important to have members who are willing to plex solo to hold/capture systems if you want to actually turn the tide |

Pinky Feldman
No Moar Tears I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
528
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Posted - 2013.05.08 22:24:00 -
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Rob Lorence wrote:There are also other decent alliances in caldari mil (one i'm in i.e  ) If your corp has good FC's then its just a matter of joining an alliance with enough members who can follow fleet orders, decide on a specific doctrine and ask members to have the specific ships ready on time for ops.. If it goes well then ppl will keep on coming :) The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's.. Then again its also important to have members who are willing to plex solo to hold/capture systems if you want to actually turn the tide
Since organized fleets are good for anything other than ihub bashes, or funzies.
The moar you cry the less you pee |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:38:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Rob Lorence wrote:There are also other decent alliances in caldari mil (one i'm in i.e  ) If your corp has good FC's then its just a matter of joining an alliance with enough members who can follow fleet orders, decide on a specific doctrine and ask members to have the specific ships ready on time for ops.. If it goes well then ppl will keep on coming :) The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's.. Then again its also important to have members who are willing to plex solo to hold/capture systems if you want to actually turn the tide Since organized fleets are good for anything other than ihub bashes, or funzies.
They are good for fighting over home systems. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
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Posted - 2013.05.08 23:56:00 -
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Rob Lorence wrote:
The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's..
Didnt you guys have gavingoodrich hes one of the best fcs cal mil has ever had if not the best... his thoughts should have been taken on board. Also if a cal mil corp could pull of the coup of getting gunnyt31 bk in the cal mill fold that would stand you in good stead imo but i dont know how the land lies there with him difecting ;)
Both these guys knew how to give fights and organize fleets on a larger scale GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome Caldari State Capturing
368
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:15:00 -
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Rob Lorence wrote: The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's..
We have the FC's: It's just getting motivated to undock and to tie yourself to the computer for an hour or two and not be uninterrupted that is the issue.
Fix this **** See Sea Pea. |
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Quentin Marshall
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Posted - 2013.05.09 00:30:00 -
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Combatevolved wrote:Chatgris is right.
Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha.
Surely you are just trolling me? I read The Mittani article today about how both Templis and Southern Renegades is failcascading . Whilst I love to join the fights, I don't want my corp to endure the sort of drama that both alliances are getting from internal dissent. Borg alliance maybe? Resistance is futile. Heh. Couldn't help it. 
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Major Killz
187
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:31:00 -
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I suggest you focus on improving and relying on yourself, friends and corporation. Otherwise you'll be weak and be dependent on politics (diplomacy), cult of personalities (Fleet Commanders) and even the slightest amount of difficulty.
With that said.
The Caldari militia is full of terribubble pilots and leaders who gather together like flies on sh!t. I honestly don't know why they congregate in such numbers in the Caldari militia. They have bad habits that has not and may never changed. They even propagate those habbits to new pilots. Well to be honest. Most of the pilots and leaders in this game have the same habits.
role-play on***REAL Caldari are not so weak. We lack numbers compared to the other empires, but we overcome size with wits, tenacity etc***role-play off
The few leaders and pilots who are worth mentioning are successful no matter the condition of factional warfare, battles, wars and losses. These entities and pilots tend to be small because there's a lack of hand holding and competence. While the larger entities are full of ret@rds.
Anyway. As a wise douche once said "**** with golden sprinkles placed on it, is still sh!t".
Note: I hope these comments are taken as is. I like to be honest instead of cordial. The things that make someone a good friend doesn't necessarily make them competent and or rugged (battle tested and hardened). Which is something you need to be successful in combat.
This may not ever get threw to most who read this, but some players may learn from these comments and will be better for it. There's more context but I decided to simplify, as I tend to do.
TLDR: stay away from the large alliances. Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them. MIND YOU. The above only matters if you want to be successful in terms of combat. Otherwise, just chill and don't worry about anything. Log on circle jerk, laugh and make bread.
-killz |

Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2013.05.09 01:38:00 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote:Combatevolved wrote:Chatgris is right.
Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha. Surely you are just trolling me? I read The Mittani article today about how both Templis and Southern Renegades is failcascading . Whilst I love to join the fights, I don't want my corp to endure the sort of drama that both alliances are getting from internal dissent. Borg alliance maybe? Resistance is futile. Heh. Couldn't help it. 
There is a reason why you read about those alliances. It is because they actually do something in FW. Most don't. BORG starting to get into things. |

Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force Caldari State Capturing
270
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Posted - 2013.05.09 02:02:00 -
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IbanezLaney wrote:Rob Lorence wrote: The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's..
We have the FC's: It's just getting motivated to undock and to tie yourself to the computer for an hour or two and not be uninterrupted that is the issue.
Pretty much this. Majority of us are willing to take a fleet out, except real life beckons. |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
480
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Posted - 2013.05.09 03:10:00 -
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Quentin Marshall wrote:Combatevolved wrote:Chatgris is right.
Get to innia. Templis Dragonaors are taking Eha. Surely you are just trolling me? I read The Mittani article today about how both Templis and Southern Renegades is failcascading . Whilst I love to join the fights, I don't want my corp to endure the sort of drama that both alliances are getting from internal dissent. Borg alliance maybe? Resistance is futile. Heh. Couldn't help it. 
Southern is failcascading, which is why I didn't list them.
However, this isn't the first time Templis have been kicked out of a system, and they are still kicking. |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1398
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:11:00 -
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Major Killz wrote:TLDR: Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them. But he said he wanted to fly in the Caldari militia..... /rimshot  |

Combatevolved
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis Dragonaors
7
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Posted - 2013.05.09 04:31:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Major Killz wrote:TLDR: Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them. But he said he wanted to fly in the Caldari militia..... /rimshot 
Yeah, fly with Gallente instead. They are the underdogs. 
If you are going to turn the tides, might as well not associate with the rest of Caldari militia and have your corp take Eha. |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
472
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:02:00 -
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Rob Lorence wrote:There are also other decent alliances in caldari mil (one i'm in i.e  ) If your corp has good FC's then its just a matter of joining an alliance with enough members who can follow fleet orders, decide on a specific doctrine and ask members to have the specific ships ready on time for ops.. If it goes well then ppl will keep on coming :) The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's.. Then again its also important to have members who are willing to plex solo to hold/capture systems if you want to actually turn the tide
borg are awoxers so ... |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
472
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Posted - 2013.05.09 06:06:00 -
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Major Killz wrote:I suggest you focus on improving and relying on yourself, friends and corporation. Otherwise you'll be weak and be dependent on politics (diplomacy), cult of personalities (Fleet Commanders) and even the slightest amount of difficulty.
With that said.
The Caldari militia is full of terribubble pilots and leaders who gather together like flies on sh!t. I honestly don't know why they congregate in such numbers in the Caldari militia. They have bad habits that has not and may never changed. They even propagate those habbits to new pilots. Well to be honest. Most of the pilots and leaders in this game have the same habits.
role-play on***REAL Caldari are not so weak. We lack numbers compared to the other empires, but we overcome size with wits, tenacity etc***role-play off
The few leaders and pilots who are worth mentioning are successful no matter the condition of factional warfare, battles, wars and losses. These entities and pilots tend to be small because there's a lack of hand holding and competence. While the larger entities are full of ret@rds.
Anyway. As a wise douche once said "**** with golden sprinkles placed on it, is still sh!t".
Note: I hope these comments are taken as is. I like to be honest instead of cordial. The things that make someone a good friend doesn't necessarily make them competent and or rugged (battle tested and hardened). Which is something you need to be successful in combat.
This may not ever get threw to most who read this, but some players may learn from these comments and will be better for it. There's more context but I decided to simplify, as I tend to do.
TLDR: stay away from the large alliances. Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them. MIND YOU. The above only matters if you want to be successful in terms of combat. Otherwise, just chill and don't worry about anything. Log on circle jerk, laugh and make bread.
-killz
Thing is that you will not get pro pvpers to caldari side because they know that fight against gallente is over in couple fights, after that there is only pve left.
So all you have to do is to play with newcomers who think FW is something great. |

Rob Lorence
Dedicated Individuals Conditioned to Kill B O R G
10
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Posted - 2013.05.09 07:40:00 -
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Not gonna bother much with the borg are awoxers bit.. Just look at our killboards and judge for yourselves.
As for organized fleets, your right. They have nearly 0 contribution to "winning" FW other than bashing/defending an Ihub (bashing can be done with a small gang of OG carriers during the dead hours) or drive plexers/deplexers They are however good for moral to have fun roams where you improve your KB and members have fun welping enemy fleets.
The way to "win" fw is by having your corp/alliance members focus on plexing a specific system with small groups/solo throughout the day and not with a fleet of 60ppl (plexing with 60 ppl together is **** LP and gets very old very fast)
Regarding that mittani article, not sure what was the point of a "push" with a fleet of BS/BC? You might get good kills but taking a system is through the small/novice plexes.
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1402
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Posted - 2013.05.09 08:38:00 -
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Combatevolved wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Major Killz wrote:TLDR: Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them. But he said he wanted to fly in the Caldari militia..... /rimshot  Yeah, fly with Gallente instead. They are the underdogs.  If you are going to turn the tides, might as well not associate with the rest of Caldari militia and have your corp take Eha. Sorry. I couldn't help it. It was just sitting there, begging for a response..... |

Pinky Feldman
No Moar Tears I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
529
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Posted - 2013.05.09 10:25:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote:Rob Lorence wrote:There are also other decent alliances in caldari mil (one i'm in i.e  ) If your corp has good FC's then its just a matter of joining an alliance with enough members who can follow fleet orders, decide on a specific doctrine and ask members to have the specific ships ready on time for ops.. If it goes well then ppl will keep on coming :) The biggest thing that's missing from caldari mil imo are organized fleets with proper FC's.. Then again its also important to have members who are willing to plex solo to hold/capture systems if you want to actually turn the tide Since organized fleets are good for anything other than ihub bashes, or funzies. They are good for fighting over home systems.
Yet, the reality is that fighting over home systems in large fleets is a waste of resources. Why fight in a home system where the enemy has access to quick reships, OGBs, and other homefield advantages? You get a much better fight when both parties are 2-3 jumps away from their staging system.
Is losing a home system a crushing morale blow that might cause some groups to leave their militia? Perhaps, but plexers can easily get around such inconveniences and why would you want PVPers from the opposing militia to leave and get even fewer fights?
The moar you cry the less you pee |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
474
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:48:00 -
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Rob Lorence wrote:Not gonna bother much with the borg are awoxers bit.. Just look at our killboards and judge for yourselves.
As for organized fleets, your right. They have nearly 0 contribution to "winning" FW other than bashing/defending an Ihub (bashing can be done with a small gang of OG carriers during the dead hours) or drive plexers/deplexers They are however good for moral to have fun roams where you improve your KB and members have fun welping enemy fleets.
The way to "win" fw is by having your corp/alliance members focus on plexing a specific system with small groups/solo throughout the day and not with a fleet of 60ppl (plexing with 60 ppl together is **** LP and gets very old very fast)
Regarding that mittani article, not sure what was the point of a "push" with a fleet of BS/BC? You might get good kills but taking a system is through the small/novice plexes.
i can link you several mails where your guys have awoxed caldari militia, sadly forum rules forbid linking those but if you really want some links i can provide those. |

Major Killz
187
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Posted - 2013.05.09 14:58:00 -
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Combatevolved wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Major Killz wrote:TLDR: Find and fly with the corporations and pilots who are successful and learn from them. But he said he wanted to fly in the Caldari militia..... /rimshot  Yeah, fly with Gallente instead. They are the underdogs.  If you are going to turn the tides, might as well not associate with the rest of Caldari militia and have your corp take Eha.
Technically I'm in every militia and have been for 2 years now. Just not with my current main "Major killz". Well, public main...
Anyway.
No one should believe the Gallente militia leaders, corporations and alliances are specifically superior. Well, not that much superior.
For example. Leaders in factional warfare believe they lead but that's a fallacy. When you can recruit pilots into your corporation and almost never have to log on, speak with and help direct and a corporation still grows. That's easy mode. So, management is not the most important part of a successful factional warfare entity (outside of the nest it's different).
Factional warfare content and player driven content can is shared (militia system). By that I mean a corporation without a fleet commander can have one by being in a militia. Which provides more content for a corporations membership.
Alot of leaders in the gallente militia believe the aforementioned fallacy. Most have never been tested outside of factional warfare and those who have can tell you it's VERY difficult. Which is why most corporations that are born or grow in factional warfare fail when they leave (they get a swift kick in the nutz of reality). There's more stress.... ALOT more stress involved for leadership and they have to be VERY active and actually work. Politics becomes ALOT more important; active fleet commanders; good management and corporation/alliance structure. Delegating is the ultimate goal for the leader and most find that difficult. If an entity cannot survive without 1 person. Then that entity will not survive for long.
HEh! Funny part is when a corporation fails and comes back to factional warfare and blame it on 0.0 or lame tactics. Instead of poor leaders or lack of leadership, mistaken belief and or sh!t/scared pilots.
So, I don't think much of the leadership in the Gallente militia or at-least non-fleet commanders or at-least the REALLY good ones.
What the Gallente have the Caldari do not is ALOT of competent pilots and competent pilots naturally gravitate to established entities and other competent pilots. Contrast with the Caldari who lack on every level and it's sad. With that said. I joined Caldari milltia because it was the worst of all the militias. I figured if you want to be better you might as well fight your betters. After all. Can you really consider yourself "good" if you're engaging ret@rds?
Mind you. The Caldari has produced The space perverts, Draketrain, Happy Endings, Inglorious-Basterds, Wolfsbrigade and has hosted fleet commanders like Lacco, Gavin, and Progod for extended periods. Notice only one Caldari alliance was mentioned. That's because I have no idea why they exist and Caldari have only produced one worth mentioning.
To wrap this up. I used factional warfare for my purposes. No matter what moves were made I did it to strengthen my own corporation. So no matter what happened my corporation would come out ahead. I worm tongued but never did much to help others even when I was in an alliance with them (other than fleet commanding , frog stomping and yarring). By that I mean I would say without saying and suggest without suggesting and hedge against others decisions and probable outcomes. I would also suck d!ck and hype people if it helped my corporations position or amused me. As far as an alliance though. I'm not a believer in the alliance model. I rather have a big corporation of 500 players, than an alliance of 500 players. Easier to manage, less talking heads (more control).
TLDR: Read my first post and scroll down to that "TL;DR". The above would only help understand factional warfare as it is now on the leadership level. So, it may help future corporation heads and corporations in making decisions in the present and future. If you choose to stay in factional warfare then things are easier as far as leadership and management. If your goal is to build in factional warfare and leave. Well you need certain structures in place and alot of delegated positions and leadership already built (at-least 2 fleet commanders is a MUST).
- killz |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
474
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:13:00 -
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I want to repeat myself and say that caldari does not have lot of good corporations/alliances because there is no need for those in militia. |

Major Killz
187
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Posted - 2013.05.09 15:26:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:I want to repeat myself and say that caldari does not have lot of good corporations/alliances because there is no need for those in militia.
There may be no need in your opinion but A LOT of corporations strive for "good" status. Not many achieve it though. Its up to the individual if he/she wants that for their corporation. If people like that did not exist then alot of my content would be loss and this game would not have grown as much as it has. More sheep with hoop dreams for the farm is a good thing. Wolves need to eat too...
- killz |

Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
521
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:05:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:I want to repeat myself and say that caldari does not have lot of good corporations/alliances because there is no need for those in militia.
Sometimes I can't tell when you're trolling and when you're serious. Of course, there's a need for good organizations in your militia. A viable FW ecosystem relies on having competitive organizations. These corps and pilots can pass on their knowledge to the next generation of pilots, leaders, and FCs. Without them, the warzone just dies, pilots leave, and combat skills atrophy.
Put it like this; when outsiders come to roam Blackrise and Placid, they don't sit there and say, "Hey, let's visit XYZ system because we know the Caldari are going to bring it." But they know to visit and hang around certain Gallente HQ systems because of the possibility of competition.
Now what I'd really like to see is the US TZ Amarr organizations go up against the US TZ Gallente organizations. Best of the best. Death match. Winner takes all!
inb4 BM rationalizes his response with something about farmers. High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve . |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1403
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Posted - 2013.05.09 16:36:00 -
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We in the Gallente Federation have a saying that is as important today as it was years ago.
"A single Derp Atron is weak, but a group of Derp Atrons is strong and can defeat shiny T3 gangs."
The pilots, corporations, and alliances in Gallente FW are like the Derp Atron. Alone, we are weak, fragile, and vulnerable, but together we are resilient and strong.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
481
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Posted - 2013.05.09 17:32:00 -
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
1404
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Posted - 2013.05.09 18:01:00 -
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I saw what you did there. If you want to call out the Derp Atron, then call it out. If you do, we're gonna de-blue you, your corporation, and your hello kitty alliance too! |
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