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Recog	Posted - 2005.10.12 01:20:00 - [31] Originally by: theRaptor The clone problem is retarded. We had exactly the same problem a year ago before they added the Omega clones. All CCP have to do is add three values into a database (Clone name, SP saved, and cost) so I have no idea why they take forever to add new clones. Love how you know everything about the game including how its coded and the DB is setup. Anyways.... Player engineered clones anyone? .akket fo tlA
Sonorra Baki	Posted - 2005.10.12 08:28:00 - [32] Originally by: Braaage You only lose 5% of one of your highest trained skills anyway if your clone doesn't cover the full amount. I lost 61% of medium energy turret 5. That was 10 days out of the book for me. Cant really call that "only 5%"
ArchenTheGreat	Posted - 2005.10.12 08:32:00 - [33] Originally by: Recog Originally by: theRaptor The clone problem is retarded. We had exactly the same problem a year ago before they added the Omega clones. All CCP have to do is add three values into a database (Clone name, SP saved, and cost) so I have no idea why they take forever to add new clones. Love how you know everything about the game including how its coded and the DB is setup. He is probably right. It's not new functionality but an old one with new parameters (clone values). I do programing for a living and such things are trivial. This one is even simplier because there are no balance issues (as with changing ships stats for example) so no extensive testing is required.
Mitchman	Posted - 2005.10.12 21:40:00 - [34] If a character is 30k sp above the clone limit and gets podded, you can lose upto 260k sp on the highest level 5 skill. It's a BUG. And the devs didn't know about it until yesterday, but people have lost that much that I know personally.
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.10.13 02:58:00 - [35] Originally by: Mitchman If a character is 30k sp above the clone limit and gets podded, you can lose upto 260k sp on the highest level 5 skill. It's a BUG. And the devs didn't know about it until yesterday, but people have lost that much that I know personally. Bug my ass. I have heard of that happening to people for ages. As far as I can tell the SP saved isn't a guarantee of how much SP is protected, its the limit at which you lose protection, because even getting podded with a basic clone only knocks off a level of a skill. And I heard the noise of thunder. And I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him
Safronique	Posted - 2005.10.13 12:40:00 - [36] Would it not be easier for them to simply update the amount of SP's that the highest grade clone covers as a temporary measure? If they don't want to introduce a whole new clone then maybe that would be a possibility?
Mitchman	Posted - 2005.10.13 15:27:00 - [37] Originally by: Safronique Would it not be easier for them to simply update the amount of SP's that the highest grade clone covers as a temporary measure? If they don't want to introduce a whole new clone then maybe that would be a possibility? Ofcourse it would be possible. But for some reason, they don't seem to take this issue very serious. If they did, this would have been fixed 2 months ago.
ShadowStrike	Posted - 2005.10.13 15:28:00 - [38] Originally by: theRaptor Originally by: Mitchman If a character is 30k sp above the clone limit and gets podded, you can lose upto 260k sp on the highest level 5 skill. It's a BUG. And the devs didn't know about it until yesterday, but people have lost that much that I know personally. Bug my ass. I have heard of that happening to people for ages. As far as I can tell the SP saved isn't a guarantee of how much SP is protected, its the limit at which you lose protection, because even getting podded with a basic clone only knocks off a level of a skill. So uh, once you get over the best clone limit (38.4M SP right now) the best clone doesn't protect you more than a basic clone? ┌-------------------------------------------------┐ ª You currently have 31,557,284 Brain Cells ª └-------------------------------------------------┘
anthonieak	Posted - 2005.10.14 15:03:00 - [39] I only play my main character i do not need my alts. I am satisfied with this character. but also i get now above a certain amount of sp. And what some people suggested stop training does that also mean stop paying. AK *********************************************** Miner Addicted Corvetor Modulated Miner Veldspar crystals II Mining drones lvl 5 10 mining drones too work
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2005.10.15 11:35:00 - [40] There was a dev chat and interview, I wonder did anyone try to ask this question?
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.10.16 06:52:00 - [41] Originally by: ShadowStrike So uh, once you get over the best clone limit (38.4M SP right now) the best clone doesn't protect you more than a basic clone? You don't understand how clones work. They don't "protect" the amount of SP listed. They stop you losing any SP if you are below your clones listed. But once over it you lose the same amount of SP (generally you lose one level of a skill at V) no matter what clone you had. You don't lose all the SP that you have above the amount listed on the clone. And I heard the noise of thunder. And I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him
Delacho	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:13:00 - [42] i Think ccp monitors very well how much people are over the limit, and are well aware that some percentage of people need a higher clone to cover all their SP. And on purpose they don't add a new clone till that number reach a certain barrier.
Zarks	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:21:00 - [43] Originally by: Delacho i Think ccp monitors very well how much people are over the limit, and are well aware that some percentage of people need a higher clone to cover all their SP. And on purpose they don't add a new clone till that number reach a certain barrier. Whats the meaning of this action then?
Zarks	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:23:00 - [44] It means that I cant play with my friends anymore (currently in 0.0 space), if we have a war going I cant play at all. Just doesn¦t seem fair to me since this matter is out of my control.
keepiru	Posted - 2005.10.16 14:23:00 - [45] Doesent sounds v smart of ccp tbh :/ Unfortunately i dont think they watch this forum much - if at all :( either way, sounds like theyre evading the issue to me, and thats not very smart or good pr. -------------
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.10.16 20:34:00 - [46] Originally by: Barbicane Signed. I wouldn't mind if clones were a lot more expensive than today, just let those who want them pay for them. 1B for a clone that saves 50M SP would be perfectly acceptable - but then it should preserve the implants too. How would that work? You die and your implants magically appear on the clone? Or they buy a new set of the same implants for the clone maybe...
dabster	Posted - 2005.10.16 21:19:00 - [47] Originally by: Reiisha I wonder why all these 'hardcore' pvp'ers complain about the carebear whiners that they don't enjoy the risk of loss, and when they themselves are risking somehting, all of a sudden eve becomes a crappy game? As has been said above, abort training for a while, train up an alt on the same account, or simply trust your skills in pvp to not be podded? Honestly, come on people. Grow a pair. There is no skills involved in not getting podded. It's all about having l33t hardware combined with the fact of whether or not you lag too hard when you blow up. ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
Baldour Ngarr	Posted - 2005.10.17 06:01:00 - [48] Originally by: Zarks It means that I cant play with my friends anymore (currently in 0.0 space), if we have a war going I cant play at all. Just doesn¦t seem fair to me since this matter is out of my control. False, and false. You can play, you choose not to. Whether or not you choose to play is entirely within your control. Celt Corp - members of ISS
Zarks	Posted - 2005.10.17 08:36:00 - [49] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Zarks It means that I cant play with my friends anymore (currently in 0.0 space), if we have a war going I cant play at all. Just doesn¦t seem fair to me since this matter is out of my control. False, and false. You can play, you choose not to. Whether or not you choose to play is entirely within your control. are you stupid?
Deka Kador	Posted - 2005.10.17 08:37:00 - [50] Originally by: Baldour Ngarr Originally by: Zarks It means that I cant play with my friends anymore (currently in 0.0 space), if we have a war going I cant play at all. Just doesn¦t seem fair to me since this matter is out of my control. False, and false. You can play, you choose not to. Whether or not you choose to play is entirely within your control. The risks we take as far as skillpoint losses are not within our control, however, and this is why CCP need to do something.
Kalast Raven	Posted - 2005.10.17 08:56:00 - [51] 260k sp's isn't even that much. 5 days skilltraining, 8? ------- K. Raven Director, Agent of Destruction
Mitchman	Posted - 2005.10.17 12:04:00 - [52] Originally by: Kalast Raven 260k sp's isn't even that much. 5 days skilltraining, 8? You'll lose more if you have more skills. This example was from someone I know that had less than 30M sp at the time.
Shocknawe	Posted - 2005.10.17 13:11:00 - [53] I'm still just under 23 mil sp, but the fact that nothing has been done or mentioned about this is pretty disheartening. Chars with that many skills points have been with you since launch and and to be honest they desearve alot more respect than they seem to be getting from CCP atm. This isn't a matter of balance and it is a matter of being about to enjoy your character you've paid for (and are currently paying for) for the last 2+ (3?) years. Shame on you CCP.
Natasha Kerensky	Posted - 2005.10.17 15:31:00 - [54] Originally by: Recog Anyways.... Player engineered clones anyone? now THAT is a damn good idea, maybe finally give the biology skilla good use? CCP? you there? Lieutenant, Deputy Chief of Security Channel: CAINCOM
Serj Darek	Posted - 2005.10.19 10:38:00 - [55] To all you ppl who say: Stop training, grow a pair etc. Don't you think that ppl who have paid rougly Ç400 or USD 450 (if you paid monthly and played since June 2003) should be able to enjoy the game fully? They paid a lot of money to play! So CCP plz fix the Clones! This is what happened to Bunny: http://people.freenet.de/schnubelken/bunnys/
Amon Chak'ai	Posted - 2005.10.19 11:33:00 - [56] Well no need to grow a pair as you say as if you now go on to sisi you will se 2 new clones best will save 92mil sp for only 35mil isk so whining wins again Leave me alone i'm only a carebear !
Sp33d Fr3ak	Posted - 2005.10.19 11:39:00 - [57] Originally by: Amon Chak'ai Well no need to grow a pair as you say as if you now go on to sisi you will se 2 new clones best will save 92mil sp for only 35mil isk so whining wins again I wouldnt call it whining. I think it is very important for these old dogs to have. I would also be annoyed if I had the uber amount of sp these guys had. /me sitting at 16 million sp, and feel like an uber noob
Ricdic	Posted - 2005.10.19 11:40:00 - [58] ROFL Sorry guys, that is my dopey 2 day old alt up there ------------------------------------------ Dreadnought Production INC is recruiting Join DPI Channel Or Visit (IGB) http://www.mmorpg-online.net/intro.html
Mathias Zealot	Posted - 2005.10.19 19:14:00 - [59] There are new clones on the test server, so as soon as the next patch hits, you'll have your clones. The best one on the test server at the moment is Clone Grade Sigma which keeps 92,160,000 skill points at a cost of 33,554,432 isk.
Nafri	Posted - 2005.10.19 21:48:00 - [60] Originally by: Sp33d Fr3ak Originally by: Amon Chak'ai Well no need to grow a pair as you say as if you now go on to sisi you will se 2 new clones best will save 92mil sp for only 35mil isk so whining wins again I wouldnt call it whining. I think it is very important for these old dogs to have. I would also be annoyed if I had the uber amount of sp these guys had. /me sitting at 16 million sp, and feel like an uber noob Im only 2 month younger then them and miss 10mio SP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Put your panties on your head!

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