Odd, I am the second Minmatar you have told what we cannot do. So tell me, what can I do?

Oh wait, that is not your call! Let me tell you about never again, Gallente. Never again is being told by people with a lofty opinion of their cultural superiority what we are allowed to do. Never presume to tell me or another Minmatar what opinions we should have. Never.

With that said, I am not trying to recover any high ground on my people's behalf. The fleet have dug us all a very big hole we have to climb out of. Don't even think for one minute that we are not now allowed to at least try and climb out of it by admitting that our fleet and the Tribal Assembly have some fault in this. That is nothing more than being humble and I would thank you for not throwing that back in my face.

If the Ray of Matar had not been involved in this atrocity the Republic would have had no diplomatic stake in the matter whatsoever.

If the Ray of Matar had not been involved in this atrocity the Republic would have had no diplomatic stake in the matter whatsoever.

58 dead and 304 wounded?
You call that a big deal?
I'd hate to think how big a deal you consider the loss of a capital fleet, considering most Capsuleers turn in those kind of bodycounts every time we turn around.

Have you no sense of decency? 58 dead, 304 wounded, many of them Minmatar. I'd say that's still a pretty big reason to have an interest in the shooter. If you think we value the lives of our people so little, you really don't get our culture.

58 dead, 304 wounded, all of whom - with the exception of Karin Midular - were Federal citizens.

58 dead, 304 wounded, all of whom - with the exception of Karin Midular - were Federal citizens. So yes, the Minmatar would certainly have had social stake in the matter, but not a diplomatic one. The fact that one of the victims was a foreign dignitary most certainly does give you a diplomatic stake in the matter.

It does not give you cart+¬ blanche to invade our sovereign territory, kill our navymen and then blame us for not being forthcoming enough for your tastes.

Since keeping the identity of this man from the public has already cost more lives than what he ever alone could have taken, and jeopardized the strategic and diplomatic interests of the Federation, I hope this nonsense will now swiftly be brought to a resolution which is satisfactory to all involved parties.

It should also be investigated whether the withholding of the assailant's identity for "technical reasons" has been a severe misjudgment or an intentional plot. The authorities behind the relevant decisions should be interrogated, their backgrounds should be checked, and if nothing is found, they should be fired for incompetence.

GalNet searches have revealed the Broteau frequented numerous anti-foreigner forums and frequently posted about his hatred of Minmatar immigrants, desire to remove all non-Gallente elements from the Federation, and admiration for the Black Eagles and Director Mentas Blaque. Before becoming the director of the Black Eagles, Mentas Blaque was known as an outspoken leader of the Sociocrats party, which has long espoused isolation and strict immigration controls for the Federation.

The Black Eagles have issued a statement in response to the findings, denouncing Broteau and saying, GÇ£The man does not, never has, and never will have any involvement with the Special Department of Internal Investigations and Federal Security.GÇ¥

So.

Why exactly could this information not have been released a week or two ago? What was the "national security" that demanded that it be kept, despite the rising emotions?

Perhaps if you had allowed us a say, no one had felt the need to resort to warships, hmh?

You choose to conveniently forget the fact that the other victims where members of the tribes too, and also the fact that this was a crime committed with a motive against the tribes specifically. That makes it the Republic's business, like it or not. I am quite fine with negotiating with the Federation about how this should be handled, considering that laws and traditions conflict. The categorical denial that we even have a stake is offensive, however, and serves only as further provocation.

Strange that the SDII felt it was necessary for their statement to categorically deny that this man had any official connection to them or Federal Security. Then connect that to claims by Federal Officials that the identity of the shooter was being concealed due to National Security...

If the SDII intended to reassure people and reduce speculation with that statement, they failed miserably.

Yes.

Anybody with a whit of sense who thought about the actual shooting would realize that there's no way this could be the work of a lone shooter. Simultaneous explosions. Hundreds of people wounded, dozens killed. Perhaps a lone man could have done these sorts of things if he had attacked, say, a theater with minimal security. This was a major cultural event attended by major political figures. There is no way Midular attended without a very good security force, let alone the others.

So now we've got our lone gunman. He's a crazy one, too. Seems like the sort of man who froths away in the basement while composing screeds, not the sort who could singlehandedly pull something like this off. I'm not going to engage in idle speculation about possible accomplices, but I'd bet money that accomplices exist.

Just give up Elsebeth. There's no point in trying to have a discussion with those whose minds are already made up.

It's clear that there's blame to be placed on both sides in this dispute, however, it seems the Gallente aren't willing to accept their share.

Oh well. The Caldari seem to want better relations with the Republic. Perhaps we should investigate that possibility, Heth's self-serving statements notwithstanding.

Oh well. The Caldari seem to want better relations with the Republic. Perhaps we should investigate that possibility, Heth's self-serving statements notwithstanding.

That is a dangerous route, politically, as said just above. Gallente-Amarr agreements are not unheard of through History, contrary to the popular belief. They were actually a lot more numerous than between State and Republic.

Just give up Elsebeth. There's no point in trying to have a discussion with those whose minds are already made up.

But that's how you view alliances? One side refuses to give you what you want so you run crying into the arms of the first people to sweet talk you with promises and fair words?