Roguelikes, really? It features permadeath and ASCII art? I can only dream.

Will we be able to buy the Amulet of Yendor on the market, or will they all be fakes?

So success or failure it jets the cargo into space, that is lame.

So success or failure it jets the cargo into space, that is lame.

Hacker's being valuable, you say....

Could this lead to hacking of offlined POS's?

Investigating on sisi as I type. I'm glad you're giving Exploration some major loving. June is certainly going to be interesting, especially for us wormhole dwellers!

I'm already wondering just what 'Virus Utility Element Slots' might be....

Interesting

It looks fantastic and is very welcome change to the waiting game!

I also like the ideas of market linking and being able to collect utilities to be used on other sites.

I guess this is a window layer similar to the star map (ie all other windows are still visible and interactable)?

It looks fantastic and is very welcome change to the waiting game!

I also like the ideas of market linking and being able to collect utilities to be used on other sites.

I guess this is a window layer similar to the star map (ie all other windows are still visible and interactable)?

Also while Im thinking about it - how will the exploration T1 frigs work now?

How will the bonuses make things any better?

BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THAT COMPUTERS, WHEN HACKED, SUDDENLY EXPLODE YOUR ROOM INTO CANS.



Other than that stupid part, cool beans.

Remove the time limit and make the harder sites have hacking games that would take 10-15 minutes to finish! (after adding some more depth)

Last I heard it is currently on SiSi, just not on most sites.

When can we see this on SISI ?

Crafty dev blog is crafty, you missed out the bit where the new T2 scanning modules (increased scan strength, reduced time and decreased deviation) all require components found in these sites.

You said you wanted to tie them closer to the market well you just did that and opened up a very interesting active income source. Unfortunately for myself it means I will not be able to throw 10bil at the new modules and triple my money release day this time around but still its cool progress. Good work putting more of the power back in the hands of the little guys in industry who will do their own hacking and build from only what they can find. Excellent implementation of new T2 modules!

Will we be hearing from this lovely co-workers in a yet to come dev blog?

Is it possible to spam d-scan and keep an eye on local while playing the minigame?

So it's the Deus Ex: HR hacking minigame?

I'm curious to hear CCPs opinion of mining which is pretty much a "sit and wait" activity, at least in high sec, where you settle down and flick on the miners and tab out or sink into a good book or whatever while you wait for the asteroid to deplete or cargo bay fill up.

I'm intrigued at how CCP comes up with what features need more interaction, and what needs less. Salvaging gets more passive with the addition of salvaging drones, while hacking and archaeology get more interactive with this new mechanic. Mining is as yet, untouched for 10 years now.

Should throw this into dust hacking. Hold still a few more seconds little tin man while I lock on.

Again, are COSMOS and wormhole sites hacking mechanics being changed too?

So there will be helpfull sound cues? I like it but as I notice sound often just quits in EVE & I play with a few deaf pilots so I hope the aural element isn't 100% indepenant.

ALSO: EVE HAS SOUND

As it is right now, there is a chance that a hacking/archeology can will be completely empty. Is there going to be any change to this, or is there always going to be a loot barf?

Also, I'm assuming you are going to change the "Loot Jettison Imminent" to "Cargo Jettison Imminent". (immersion/EVE is real/etc.)

If I play the hacking minigame and fail, then start again on the same site: will it be the same game, with the same node layout, the same firewalls, and so on? If someone else comes into my site and hacks the same site: will they see the same game, with the same node layout, the same firewalls, and so on?

In the fanfest presentation the idea of purposely failing in order to get an NPC spawn was brought up. You said you would like to discourage that. I suggest:

Every failure there is a chance the side will self destruct. Its a small chance the first time, but big enough to discourage failing on purpose. Each failure after the first time increases the chance of the site self destructing. Sufficient failures and the site will always explode.

I would have liked to have seen an actual 'hacking' minigame. IE: You need to get scripts (from the marketplace, or write it yourself in EvECode or something), which you run against the hackable object in a command line environment. Does anyone remember the terrible Matrix game, where you could hack cheats for yourself with the ingame console?

Like that.

Only with spaceships.

It could also be applied to NPC's (hack yourself a rogue drone army), remote control customs agents, disable the shields on an enemy ship while screaming the name of the enemy Pilot...
Hack into an alliance wallet.
Bypass the f***ing station door.

How randomized are these little puzzles or are they random at all? It would be a shame if hacking devolved into little more than going to joeblow-evehacking.com and following some instructions.

Nothing in Eve rewards based on skill and intelligence that isn't emergent. That's why exploration has sucked for so long. There is no way to do exploration better because it isn't player driven. There is no way to optimize.

The minigame is just another such closed system. Game design FAIL.

Minigames don't reflect the character and capability of people who actually are interested in space exploration. Remember, people who do exploration also do DED sites and follow escalations into unknown and dangerous places.

They aren't your usual highsec pubbies who don't fit a tank or prop mod. They aren't people who think having 10 mining alts is WINNING.

Dumbing down what should be the most interesting and emergent part of the game down is sad but not totally unexpected from people who think the problem is the spreadsheets (tax returns SNARF) not the nature of the element itself.

I get it, you need these crappy games to validate moving to some mobile content. But my god, it's horrible. HORRIBLE.

Here in lyes the biggest issue, just because one is not flying in a fleet does not mean there is not mean they are not interacting with other players.
With the new system player skill and a bit of luck will play a big role, do not dampen that by arbitrarily making it require a small gang. As an explorer you already have to deal with other explorers, pirates, roaming gangs, and then once you get loot you must be able to sell it on the market against all those who you have had to compete with just to get your loot.

I also foresee a new complaint coming to F&I about a cloaky ship waiting at Data and Relic sites in high sec and de cloaking once the loot is jettisoned then stealing it.

But you are forgetting that it has to be FUN and replayable. Emergent content in Eve is fun when it means competing against another human being who is trying to destroy your shiny stuff. Playing a random hacking game against the computer is not fun, particularly the 678879th time you do it. Especially when, if you successfully complete the site, you have to share the rewards with a small gang in order to get anything at all. Which means that the site has to be lucrative enough to be worth a small gang's time.

Congrats, CCP. You have completely destroyed hacking/archaeology.

The modules are not even required. Just right-click and select open cargo. Get bacon. One person on the test server hadn't even realized there was a new mini-game because it was not required to open the containers.

Honeypots are totally broken. They will indefinitely buff the defenses without limit, making the game totally and completely impossible to win. They are supposed to be repair modules, not infinite defense buffs. Only allow them to repair up to the original amount of the defense's HP. As they are now, you absolutely must pop them, which makes them into virus power sinks.

The grpahics were so badly bugged as to make the game almost unplayable. Lines and nodes didn't line up. Clicking would sometimes require dozens of attmepts for anything to change. When a defense of some kind would suddenly spawn, I would fall right into it because, OMG CLICKING!

When I was able to get to the core, I found it odd that by spam-clicking, the outer circle of the core would gradually shrink and disappear. Does this signify something? Was somethign supposed to happen? Also, as I got to within one shot of popping the core, the entire game would simply stop responding and nothing more would happen. I could still click on stuff. But nothing would ever change or give me any indication of success or failure. Message? What up? Did I just get back-hacked or something? idgi.

Right, now on to the good stuff. The tools look and work well. I would like to see an offense buff in addition to the HP repair, temp invulnerable shield, and attack tool. This would make a nice balance to the available tools.

I want to conclude by saying that I appreciate CCP's efforts on this. But this new game needs a lot more work. It needs to at least be capable of rewarding success properly, and not be completely optional and broken as it is now. Tie the elements together so that they are working as you want us to experience them. Right now, it doesn't work at all. I can't imagine releasing it as it is now. The forums rage would, however, be spectacular.

Can you provide us static data sites on Sisi (and *only* there of course) so we can test this more easily? With the dearth of signatures on Sisi I don't really feel like sweeping 20 systems every time to find one site to test.

Or just provide the new content to w-space sites too, data and relic sites are easy enough to find there... if you happen to have a scanner inside of w-space that is, getting in from k-space is near impossible on Sisi

Speaking of w-space... can you go into detail exactly in what way the new system will be applied to w-space sites? Removal of all sleepers? Sleepers remain and we get the new hacking? (This would give us the fun of the minigame but also increase overall time needed to complete a site I think). Changed, toned-down sleeper spawns? Or no changes at all?

Please when you can, confirm if Wormhole sites are changing or we only get the minigame instead of the use of hacking (archeology) tool without further changes. Sleepers are there on the begining and once open we get the same crap as always.

Quick question:

What skills are going to be involved in the new hacking system? I've never really done hacking before and am curious if I'll only need the Hacking skill or what other skills will be applicable to this profession.

Edit:

Also, how common will these sites be in high/low/null sec and w-space?

I urge you to consider your direction here and how far you're taking it. Simply hoping that it will drive more people to work together in exploration sites to overcome arbitrary game mechanics is optimistic. Put people in the exact situation and see how they react to it, and make sure it's not the people who designed the feature as it stands - they're predisposed to think its cool already. Is it really going to be fun for multiple people when only one is doing the hacking?

Related to the above, but not quite. Some people have already asked info for this, but I don't think we have received an answer: What will hacking and archaelogy skills do? They cannot give us faster cycle time anymore, since it won't matter. Also, what is the difference between T1/T2 Codebreaker/Analyzer or T1/T2 WhateverTheNewModulesWillBeCalled?

You expect you have an answer to that, since it is only two weeks and couple of days until official Odyssey date. If you don't... *doesn't want to think about it*

Also, those virus we are supposed to use: Where do we get them from? Or don't we need them at the beginning?

Edit: Apparently plural form of 'virus' is 'viruses' in english, not 'virii'. My mistake. :)

Come on CCP, this has been asked in every thread since the changes where announced and as far as I know never been answered.

There are currently Ladar sites that are combat/hacking sites. With the moving of Ladars to just coming up on the new scanner without probes, are these sites going to stay hidden without probes, or will they just show up? Are they going to be removed? Will the rats stay or be removed and the mini-game added? Did ya'll know they existed, or just found out and are scrambling for a solution? Come on, give us something.

Edit: EnglishGǪand drugs

So this idea just fell into my head, I'd originally made a wall of text but decided against it, here is the TL:DR;

- Multiple Script slots in the code breaker module to tweak performance in different areas.
- Scripts alter specific stats of your codebreaker
- Mini game features different amounts of different obstacles depending on NPC faction.

I hoped for effects along the line of:

- Players tune their codebreakers to their target faction
- Maybe Scripts can be made in an invention like fashion based on decryptor loot?
- Players design the minigame layout on their own hackable structures, meaning an enemy hacker might need a diverse kitbag of scripts?

So, like, instead of jetting the **** into space and forcing us to try to grab it, how about you make the hacking minigame MULTIPLAYER so multiple people can hack from multiple access nodes and then coordinate their hacking minigame actions to finally win. And dish out mini-rewards during the game, for uncovering the juicy nodes.