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Joshua Deakin
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Posted - 2005.10.12 17:55:00 - [1]

Just got this supposedly bad ass sound card (ExtremeMusic) and everything seems fine but as soon as I start mining those roids with mining lasers the sound starts to "pop and *****le"... Evil or Very Mad It worked well in mp3's and in Americas Army. I disabled the AC97 sound chip that's integrated in the motherboard and that chip didn't have any problems.

Any similiar experiences?
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Posted - 2005.10.12 17:55:00 - [2]

Just got this supposedly bad ass sound card (ExtremeMusic) and everything seems fine but as soon as I start mining those roids with mining lasers the sound starts to "pop and *****le"... Evil or Very Mad It worked well in mp3's and in Americas Army. I disabled the AC97 sound chip that's integrated in the motherboard and that chip didn't have any problems.

Any similiar experiences?
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Posted - 2005.10.12 18:38:00 - [3]

try turning the sound down a bit on both the Wave slider and output slider.

It is possible that the top setting intorduces gain into the output and as such causes clipping on the output.
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Posted - 2005.10.12 18:38:00 - [4]

try turning the sound down a bit on both the Wave slider and output slider.

It is possible that the top setting intorduces gain into the output and as such causes clipping on the output.
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Posted - 2005.10.12 21:14:00 - [5]

Edited by: Joshua Deakin on 12/10/2005 21:15:07
I wish it was that simple. I can turn down the master and wave volume to 50% and the sound still starts to pop when activating those Miners (probably does it with any sounds as multiple sources are activated). And why would a 100 euro card start *****ling when an integrated AC97 doesn't at 100% volume settings. The SB doesn't suffer any deterioration in sound when playing, for example, Americas Army (hardware acceleration with EAX enabled).

*****ling = c r a c k ling, not talking about drugs here, jeesh...
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Posted - 2005.10.12 21:14:00 - [6]

Edited by: Joshua Deakin on 12/10/2005 21:15:07
I wish it was that simple. I can turn down the master and wave volume to 50% and the sound still starts to pop when activating those Miners (probably does it with any sounds as multiple sources are activated). And why would a 100 euro card start *****ling when an integrated AC97 doesn't at 100% volume settings. The SB doesn't suffer any deterioration in sound when playing, for example, Americas Army (hardware acceleration with EAX enabled).

*****ling = c r a c k ling, not talking about drugs here, jeesh...
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Posted - 2005.10.12 23:51:00 - [7]

Originally by: Joshua Deakin
*****ling = c r a c k ling, not talking about drugs here, jeesh...


Cant really help your sound card issue here but they censor c r a c k as it also refers to the female genitalia, but as it can also be something on a wall or on glass, its a bit of a lame censor tbh Wink

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Posted - 2005.10.12 23:51:00 - [8]

Originally by: Joshua Deakin
*****ling = c r a c k ling, not talking about drugs here, jeesh...


Cant really help your sound card issue here but they censor c r a c k as it also refers to the female genitalia, but as it can also be something on a wall or on glass, its a bit of a lame censor tbh Wink

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Posted - 2005.10.13 09:31:00 - [9]

A word of caution for everyone who is thinking about buying one:

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31426

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Posted - 2005.10.13 09:31:00 - [10]

A word of caution for everyone who is thinking about buying one:

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=soundblaster&message.id=31426

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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.10.13 10:01:00 - [11]

I have heard like 10 people with this card go up to me in help channel and have exactly the same problem.

Creative cards, sadly, suck.

Creative drivers suck too.

Don't use Creative cards.
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Posted - 2005.10.13 10:01:00 - [12]

I have heard like 10 people with this card go up to me in help channel and have exactly the same problem.

Creative cards, sadly, suck.

Creative drivers suck too.

Don't use Creative cards.


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Posted - 2005.10.14 20:05:00 - [13]

Ahh I love those catch all descriptions "Creative Sucks". Razz
Never mind that the Soundblaster series is responsible for ushering in an era of games onto what was otherwise a very bland business machine.

And FYI, I have been running the X-Fi on Eve for a few weeks now. No problems what so ever. All I can think of is to un-install your card, uninstall eve. Re-install card, direct X, then Eve. That may work.

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Posted - 2005.10.14 20:05:00 - [14]

Ahh I love those catch all descriptions "Creative Sucks". Razz
Never mind that the Soundblaster series is responsible for ushering in an era of games onto what was otherwise a very bland business machine.

And FYI, I have been running the X-Fi on Eve for a few weeks now. No problems what so ever. All I can think of is to un-install your card, uninstall eve. Re-install card, direct X, then Eve. That may work.

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Posted - 2005.10.18 19:11:00 - [15]

Eve may not recognize your card and default to software rendering of audio. Static, buzz or pops are sometimes signs that software audio is enabled. Try to find the config file that allows you to force Eve to use hardware audio. Until Eve can detect these newer cards you may have to live with it.

Perhaps it's en vogue to bash large corporations. However I've had annoyances and troubles with most audio cards (Hercules, Turtle Island, Phillips, Creative). For the most part the annoyances are part of the software that comes with the cards. I'd be better off if audio cards installed their drivers and that's it. I don't need audio modelling software to make my computer sound likes it's underwater. I don't need another task bar app that I have to figure out how to shut off. Good riddance.

Creative makes fine products and they are pushing the technology forward. I don't know how they fair against m-audio or even professional audio cards (i.e. RME) but they are advancing audio tech for the computer.

IMHO, 99% of us don't need anything more than a $15 5.1 Sound card anyway.

Good luck with your issue.
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Posted - 2005.10.18 19:11:00 - [16]

Eve may not recognize your card and default to software rendering of audio. Static, buzz or pops are sometimes signs that software audio is enabled. Try to find the config file that allows you to force Eve to use hardware audio. Until Eve can detect these newer cards you may have to live with it.

Perhaps it's en vogue to bash large corporations. However I've had annoyances and troubles with most audio cards (Hercules, Turtle Island, Phillips, Creative). For the most part the annoyances are part of the software that comes with the cards. I'd be better off if audio cards installed their drivers and that's it. I don't need audio modelling software to make my computer sound likes it's underwater. I don't need another task bar app that I have to figure out how to shut off. Good riddance.

Creative makes fine products and they are pushing the technology forward. I don't know how they fair against m-audio or even professional audio cards (i.e. RME) but they are advancing audio tech for the computer.

IMHO, 99% of us don't need anything more than a $15 5.1 Sound card anyway.

Good luck with your issue.
Mp

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Posted - 2005.10.19 10:22:00 - [17]

With my 5.1 surround Live card, you need to set the CL software to 4 speakers only - to get full effects and sound. If you leave it any higher, you lose sounds like weaps and engines and get wierd mining noises.

updates card drivers, direct x and then delete the Machonet folder in your EVE\cache directory and see if EVE picks it up when set to 4 speakers. More than enough power.


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Posted - 2005.10.19 10:22:00 - [18]

With my 5.1 surround Live card, you need to set the CL software to 4 speakers only - to get full effects and sound. If you leave it any higher, you lose sounds like weaps and engines and get wierd mining noises.

updates card drivers, direct x and then delete the Machonet folder in your EVE\cache directory and see if EVE picks it up when set to 4 speakers. More than enough power.


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Posted - 2005.10.19 12:01:00 - [19]

Must admit, not totaly supprised. From exprriences of soundblaster (first Live, AWE32...) has been mixed. Was found of them uptill recently.

EVE: I have a live 5.1 in my box and found the creative latest and greatest drivers would BSOD me playing eve occasionaly, rolled back to M$ drivers and been solid as a rock with full hardware/sound enabled.

MUSIC: hada friend with latest and greatest SB and found the latency and ability to not handle the crunch an issue, got a MIA MIDI soundcard (bout 100ú - has fullsize audio jacks 4 of all totaly programable like a mizing desk and and patachable) - plugged it in and the audio quality was amazing. I like the audio on the Soundblaster but this was a totaly different level like going from cassette to CD on a bang and olfsen. Latency wasn;t an issue any more and CUBASE just ran no uiissues/crash's/crunch's. He dosn;t play games so cant comment on its ability to handle that but suspect it will well and truely cut the mustard.

So as for people haveing sound issues, concider going and using the M$ drivers, you may lose some functionality and perks but offset with something that works - worth a try.

Good luck and you have my totaly sympathy as nothing worse than pspending good money on the latest and greatest only to find it dont do what it says on the tin :(.


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Posted - 2005.10.19 12:01:00 - [20]

Must admit, not totaly supprised. From exprriences of soundblaster (first Live, AWE32...) has been mixed. Was found of them uptill recently.

EVE: I have a live 5.1 in my box and found the creative latest and greatest drivers would BSOD me playing eve occasionaly, rolled back to M$ drivers and been solid as a rock with full hardware/sound enabled.

MUSIC: hada friend with latest and greatest SB and found the latency and ability to not handle the crunch an issue, got a MIA MIDI soundcard (bout 100ú - has fullsize audio jacks 4 of all totaly programable like a mizing desk and and patachable) - plugged it in and the audio quality was amazing. I like the audio on the Soundblaster but this was a totaly different level like going from cassette to CD on a bang and olfsen. Latency wasn;t an issue any more and CUBASE just ran no uiissues/crash's/crunch's. He dosn;t play games so cant comment on its ability to handle that but suspect it will well and truely cut the mustard.

So as for people haveing sound issues, concider going and using the M$ drivers, you may lose some functionality and perks but offset with something that works - worth a try.

Good luck and you have my totaly sympathy as nothing worse than pspending good money on the latest and greatest only to find it dont do what it says on the tin :(.


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Posted - 2005.10.19 17:19:00 - [21]

Edited by: Dammar on 19/10/2005 17:30:02
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I have heard like 10 people with this card go up to me in help channel and have exactly the same problem.

Creative cards, sadly, suck.

Creative drivers suck too.

Don't use Creative cards.


I agree creative are a lazy, fat on their own success company...but, EVE is the problem here. No other game ive ever seen has the probs EVE does on creative boards. The end.

edit: oh and i find ccp's 'solution' of turning down the hardware accel slider to be completely laughable also. Why the hell should that be required, because they don't have a clue how to program sound that i should have to cripple my hardware?

Actually there was one other game that had sound probs like EVE does too, it was the Worms 4 demo...also made by a Euro company...big surprise there, i guess they all need to get with the times.
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Posted - 2005.10.19 17:19:00 - [22]

Edited by: Dammar on 19/10/2005 17:30:02
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I have heard like 10 people with this card go up to me in help channel and have exactly the same problem.

Creative cards, sadly, suck.

Creative drivers suck too.

Don't use Creative cards.


I agree creative are a lazy, fat on their own success company...but, EVE is the problem here. No other game ive ever seen has the probs EVE does on creative boards. The end.

edit: oh and i find ccp's 'solution' of turning down the hardware accel slider to be completely laughable also. Why the hell should that be required, because they don't have a clue how to program sound that i should have to cripple my hardware?

Actually there was one other game that had sound probs like EVE does too, it was the Worms 4 demo...also made by a Euro company...big surprise there, i guess they all need to get with the times.
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Posted - 2005.10.19 18:06:00 - [23]

Originally by: Dammar
Edited by: Dammar on 19/10/2005 17:30:02
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I have heard like 10 people with this card go up to me in help channel and have exactly the same problem.

Creative cards, sadly, suck.

Creative drivers suck too.

Don't use Creative cards.


I agree creative are a lazy, fat on their own success company...but, EVE is the problem here. No other game ive ever seen has the probs EVE does on creative boards. The end.

edit: oh and i find ccp's 'solution' of turning down the hardware accel slider to be completely laughable also. Why the hell should that be required, because they don't have a clue how to program sound that i should have to cripple my hardware?

Actually there was one other game that had sound probs like EVE does too, it was the Worms 4 demo...also made by a Euro company...big surprise there, i guess they all need to get with the times.

Its not CCP's fault that creative doesn't properly support sound standards, and requires card-specific hacky coding to make work.
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Posted - 2005.10.19 18:06:00 - [24]

Originally by: Dammar
Edited by: Dammar on 19/10/2005 17:30:02
Originally by: Dark Shikari
I have heard like 10 people with this card go up to me in help channel and have exactly the same problem.

Creative cards, sadly, suck.

Creative drivers suck too.

Don't use Creative cards.


I agree creative are a lazy, fat on their own success company...but, EVE is the problem here. No other game ive ever seen has the probs EVE does on creative boards. The end.

edit: oh and i find ccp's 'solution' of turning down the hardware accel slider to be completely laughable also. Why the hell should that be required, because they don't have a clue how to program sound that i should have to cripple my hardware?

Actually there was one other game that had sound probs like EVE does too, it was the Worms 4 demo...also made by a Euro company...big surprise there, i guess they all need to get with the times.

Its not CCP's fault that creative doesn't properly support sound standards, and requires card-specific hacky coding to make work.


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Posted - 2005.10.19 18:22:00 - [25]



Its not CCP's fault that creative doesn't properly support sound standards, and requires card-specific hacky coding to make work.


Luckily the rest of the games industry does not agree. Also not to get all fanboy'ish, but if Creative aren't 'the standard' then who is? This isn't like AMD vs. Intel or ATI vs. Nvidia, and without going into the 'why', the fact is creative has no real competition as far as sound cards go.

Just saying, you may not like them(i don't), but you DO have to support them.
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Its not CCP's fault that creative doesn't properly support sound standards, and requires card-specific hacky coding to make work.


Luckily the rest of the games industry does not agree. Also not to get all fanboy'ish, but if Creative aren't 'the standard' then who is? This isn't like AMD vs. Intel or ATI vs. Nvidia, and without going into the 'why', the fact is creative has no real competition as far as sound cards go.

Just saying, you may not like them(i don't), but you DO have to support them.
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Posted - 2007.02.26 18:27:00 - [27]

I found that going into the Audio Console panel and disabling the EAX Effects check box has fixed this for me.
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