Pages: [1] :: one page |
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |

TomHorn
Caldari Waffen Legion
100
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 11:50:00 -
[1] - Quote
Thukker Tribe invites cloned mercenaries to police Molden Heath14.05.2013 10:00
The Thukker Tribe today announced that it is inviting cloned mercenaries to Molden Heath in an effort to police the region and protect it from piracy. The region, long known as a haven of the Angel Cartel, has fallen on difficult times recently and has been virtually abandoned by the Republic Fleet.
Source http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/thukker-tribe-invites-cloned-mercenaries-to-police-molden-heath/
|

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
452
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 12:12:00 -
[2] - Quote
Thukker are nuts. News at 11.  |

Ari Laveran
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
20
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 12:46:00 -
[3] - Quote
They might come to regret the decision as me and my comrades are planning to have boots on the ground in the next 48 hours. Call them crazy but they are among the first to treat us new immortals as something more than military hardware. |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
472
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 13:06:00 -
[4] - Quote
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Thukker are nuts. News at 11.  So the Republic has been acting like the entirety of Minmatar civilization somehow falls under their purview, but the Thukker Tribe still can't get them to be bothered to help fight of the Cartel.
Nice to know your leaders have their priorities straight. |

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
453
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 14:22:00 -
[5] - Quote
Oh the Fleet helps. But like you may have noticed, we have this war thing going on, and they already require indie capsuleers to help keep low-sec on other regions. They are, also, not unique in this respect among nations. Molden Heath low-sec... well. If you've been there, you know what sort of place it is.
I cannot decide if Thukker are brilliant or crazy taking advantage of this new development. Or maybe brilliant and crazy.
Elsebeth |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
472
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 14:31:00 -
[6] - Quote
Well I just figured it would help if the Republic fleet weren't wasting time operation in Federation space. |

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
186
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 15:08:00 -
[7] - Quote
I find it amusing how those few of the Thukker Tribe willing to play-pretend Republican sycophants are so eager to prove their worth in front of their Republican puppeteers, yet the same people make fun of Ammatar for the same reason.
As I've already stated just a couple days ago, people of Molden Heath don't want the Republic. As for the Thukker Tribe, if you aren't smart enough to follow the example of Martoakar Alash, go home and let the adults do the talking. - Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation recruitment open. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1305
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 15:57:00 -
[8] - Quote
Is any one else starting to get a little tired of the way the IGS has just turned into "SCOPE HEADLINE! LET'S DISCUSS IT!"? An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
|

Rodj Blake
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1363
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 16:13:00 -
[9] - Quote
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Oh the Fleet helps. But like you may have noticed, we have this war thing going on, and they already require indie capsuleers to help keep low-sec on other regions.
And yet they have enough ships to launch an attack on their supposed ally. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
446
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 16:18:00 -
[10] - Quote
Stitcher wrote:Is any one else starting to get a little tired of the way the IGS has just turned into "SCOPE HEADLINE! LET'S DISCUSS IT!"?
No, not really. I come to the IGS to discuss current events with my fellow capsuleers.
I do find it odd that a few days ago you were lamenting people only being interested in casual conversation over more meaningful topics. Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1306
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 16:18:00 -
[11] - Quote
Thirteen dreadnoughts isn't exactly a whole lot of ship by national navy standards. Hell, it's not a whole lot of ship by capsuleer alliance standards.
I mean, by sane standards, yes. that's a hideous amount of firepower and expensive vessel and crew. But relative to the total strategic assets of the Republic, that's what you'd call a "task group".
Makkal: That's the point - I'm all for meaningful discussion. Not just regurgitating the headlines and then drawing a "pro-this"/"anti-this" line and watching the explosions. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
|

Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
734
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 16:22:00 -
[12] - Quote
Stitcher wrote:Is any one else starting to get a little tired of the way the IGS has just turned into "SCOPE HEADLINE! LET'S DISCUSS IT!"?
Yes. It's intellectually lazy.
I'm also way past tired of how some jackasses take every headline and twist it in some way so they can take cheap jabs at the Republic. They should fortify their own glass houses before lobbing stones at others'.
Last I heard the Serpentis and Blood Raiders were still operating freely in the Federation and Empire respectively. Apparently neither of those empires have enough vessels to stop their homegrown criminals either. Hypocrites. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |

Elsebeth Rhiannon
Gradient Electus Matari
453
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 17:08:00 -
[13] - Quote
If you are tired of the topics discussed on any forum, the solution is not to ***** about what other people talk about, but to start a discussion on a topic more of your liking.
But you know that.
So why did you ask?
|

Shintoko Akahoshi
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
81
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 17:20:00 -
[14] - Quote
Anabella Rella wrote:I'm also way past tired of how some jackasses take every headline and twist it in some way so they can take cheap jabs at the Republic. They should fortify their own glass houses before lobbing stones at others'.
Last I heard the Serpentis and Blood Raiders were still operating freely in the Federation and Empire respectively. Apparently neither of those empires have enough vessels to stop their homegrown criminals either. Hypocrites.
Not just the Republic.
In any case, I agree with you completely. None of the Empires have the power to deal with criminals operating within their borders, and they're certainly showing themselves unable to deal rationally with one another. As bloody and dysfunctional as they paint us Empyreans, they're certainly giving us a run for our money. Bio and writing |

Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
169
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 17:31:00 -
[15] - Quote
The Republic Fleet is a naval resource. Cloned soldiers are a surface resource.
Surface policing is not done by fleets. |

Shintoko Akahoshi
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
81
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 17:40:00 -
[16] - Quote
Samira Kernher wrote:The Republic Fleet is a naval resource. Cloned soldiers are a surface resource.
Surface policing is not done by fleets.
The point isn't whether or not the Republic Fleet is equipped to police the Molden Heath worlds, it's whether the Republic is so equipped. Hiring mercenaries to do so points to a firm "no".
Though, honestly, I'm not sure why this is suddenly a surprising issue. After all, Empyrean mercenaries have been acting as de-facto extensions of the fleets of all governments and factions for some time now. This is merely more of the same.
I was thinking this morning about Jade Constantine. There was a time, before my... ahem... fall, when I flew as a vocal and energetic supporter of the Empyrean Free Space ideal. I claimed, and proved with daily action, that the old governments simply were not prepared for the new age which had dawned. Turns out we were right, at least about that. Bio and writing |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
952
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 19:10:00 -
[17] - Quote
Glad to see the Thukker Tribe taking positive steps towards combating piracy.
Molden Heath has been a horrid turgent place for too long, about time people decided to try and clean it out. Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |

Stitcher
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
1309
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 20:45:00 -
[18] - Quote
Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:If you are tired of the topics discussed on any forum, the solution is not to ***** about what other people talk about, but to start a discussion on a topic more of your liking.
You're missing my point. I'm not complaining about the things being discussed - I DO stay out of the conversations I don't want to have. My problem is the way things are being discussed around here at the moment. Why aren't we actually have topical conversations? Right now all that's happening is somebody just copy-pastes the big news article of the day and says "discuss".
I mean, is it really necessary to have a separate thread for the identification of the Caille shooter and for the assignment of Sebiestor tribal representatives to his trial? It's the same subject.
I'm all for people talking about whatever they like, but Anabella hit the bullseye when she called it "intellectually lazy". We can debate these subjects without needing somebody to start a new discussion thread every time the Scope vomits forth a new opinion. As things stand the Summit may as well just be a glorified mirror for the major news channels of New Eden with a robust and exclusive comments section on each article. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
|

kraiklyn Asatru
T.R.I.A.D
239
|
Posted - 2013.05.14 21:28:00 -
[19] - Quote
I have found that most Thukkers I know take little issue with piracy, they take issue with slavers. If the cartel would cast away some of their less savory methods and habits. They can find themselves viewed in a different light. Thukkers protect their people, they always will. The rest of new eden is free game though. |

James Syagrius
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly
394
|
Posted - 2013.05.15 01:32:00 -
[20] - Quote
kraiklyn Asatru wrote:I have found that most Thukkers I know take little issue with piracy, they take issue with slavers. If the cartel would cast away some of their less savory methods and habits. They can find themselves viewed in a different light. Thukkers protect their people, they always will. The rest of new eden is free game though. What hurtful words!
Unsavory indeed, I will have you know I am very respectable.
But still not bad advice all and all. GÇ£Here also are the heralds of his praise."
http://syagrius-eve.blogspot.com/
|

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1473
|
Posted - 2013.05.15 03:55:00 -
[21] - Quote
Quote:A representative of the Thukker Tribe said, GÇ£This is a win-win situation for us. The mercenaries will settle on the planets and discourage the Angel Cartel from attempting to invade."
I think this guy needs to look up what "mercenary" means.
DUST: "Halt! We are being paid to protect this planet from the Angel Cartel!" Angels: "Here's a cheque with your name on it. Fill in whatever amount you want." DUST: "Enjoy your new planet, Sir!" Angels: "Pleasure doing business with you." The day CCP codes together a bot program that slaps 30 day forum bans on anyone who says "can I have your stuff?" the overall average IQ of the EvE forums will quintuple overnight. |

Grideris
Fleet Coordination Commission Fleet Coordination Coalition
644
|
Posted - 2013.05.15 09:10:00 -
[22] - Quote
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Quote:A representative of the Thukker Tribe said, GÇ£This is a win-win situation for us. The mercenaries will settle on the planets and discourage the Angel Cartel from attempting to invade." I think this guy needs to look up what "mercenary" means. DUST: "Halt! We are being paid to protect this planet from the Angel Cartel!" Angels: "Here's a cheque with your name on it. Fill in whatever amount you want." DUST: "Enjoy your new planet, Sir!" Angels: "Pleasure doing business with you."
Not quite the situation. The Thukker aren't paying these mercenaries to protect these planets, they're just saying "Here's a bunch of free districts, go crazy." So now these mercenaries are protecting their own territory that they own, and the Thukker hope that will discourage the Angels from attacking the planets as that would mean attacking the mercenaries. http://www.dust514.org - the unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need
|

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
187
|
Posted - 2013.05.15 13:01:00 -
[23] - Quote
Grideris wrote:Katran Luftschreck wrote:Quote:A representative of the Thukker Tribe said, GÇ£This is a win-win situation for us. The mercenaries will settle on the planets and discourage the Angel Cartel from attempting to invade." I think this guy needs to look up what "mercenary" means. DUST: "Halt! We are being paid to protect this planet from the Angel Cartel!" Angels: "Here's a cheque with your name on it. Fill in whatever amount you want." DUST: "Enjoy your new planet, Sir!" Angels: "Pleasure doing business with you." Not quite the situation. The Thukker aren't paying these mercenaries to protect these planets, they're just saying "Here's a bunch of free districts, go crazy." So now these mercenaries are protecting their own territory that they own, and the Thukker hope that will discourage the Angels from attacking the planets as that would mean attacking the mercenaries.
Free districts that have little to no value, and are thus of no interest to mercenaries to claim and own in the first place, as they'd be just problematic luggage. I think ms. Luftschreck's proposal has a lot less logical fallacies there. - Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim ___________________________ Angels are never far... Stillwater Corporation recruitment open. |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
484
|
Posted - 2013.05.15 14:09:00 -
[24] - Quote
Oh, no, they have value. If I am not mistaken, it lets them produce their own clones amongst other things. That could give them some more autonomy. Also, ground based infrastructure could have ramifications for local orbital infrastructure such as that used by capsuleers, and the two groups are able to collaborate (and some capsuleers have been supporting ground operations in border zones for international warfare), so these districts are likely going to be of some value as joint venture.
I actually wonder if the Thukker Tribe is banking on this collaboration to bring additional capsuleers as well. |

Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens Viro Mors Non Est
492
|
Posted - 2013.05.16 14:40:00 -
[25] - Quote
Quote:MOLDEN HEATH GÇô Within the first ten minutes of the Thukker Tribe opening planetary districts in Molden Heath to cloned mercenaries, every district set aside had been claimed by independent corporations. Individuals continue to arrive by the thousands as they fortify their newly-claimed districts and prepare to sell their skills to the highest bidders.
Entire planets have been claimed by corporations such as SVER True Blood and D3LTA FORC3, while others are split between many different corporations. Already reports have come in that several corporations have planned assaults on rival mercenary groups in an attempt to claim more land for themselves.
The Thukker Tribe, however, is dismissive of the potential violence between corporations and instead noted the positives. A representative from the tribe said, GÇ£Within hours of us announcing our plans, local chatter from the Angel Cartel increased ten times over. The Republic Security Services has told us that many of them are highly worried about the presence of the cloned mercenaries and the capsuleers they will draw into the region.GÇ¥
The Angel Cartel itself has not made any statements on the matter, but reports have come in that several Angel Cartel ships have been seen evacuating the region. However, other reports show the Cartel continuing to engage in criminal activities inside Molden Heath.
The Minmatar Republic has similarly refrained from making any official statement on the Thukker Tribe's invitation. Seems the flood has already come AND gone. Just like I suspected, though the prescence of boots on the ground is a concern for pirates, the main thing that worries them is the potential for more capsuleers to be drawn in to Molden Heath.
It will be interesting to see how things progress over the next few weeks. |

Los Muertas
HDYLTA
138
|
Posted - 2013.05.17 17:02:00 -
[26] - Quote
Leopold Caine wrote: Free districts that have little to no value, and are thus of no interest to mercenaries to claim and own in the first place, as they'd be just problematic luggage. I think ms. Luftschreck's proposal has a lot less logical fallacies there.
The districts do have great value to Mercenary Corporations, or even hybrid corporations as the law currently dictates that monetary transfers between Capsuleers and Mercenaries is prohibited. However with this new development Mercenaries whom own a district now have the ability to passively accrue ISK on a level they never had before. I am not sure of the specific numbers but I believe that each district earns something along the lines of 20 million ISK per cycle (im not sure if the cycles are days or weeks).
If you look at SVER with its entire planet of eight districts, that means an influx of 160 million isk per cycle, and while this may be a small sum to a Capsuleer corporation, this is a huge amount of money for a Mercenary group. In our Corporation our average Merc runs with between 40k-210k worth of equipment on one Clone, and they usually run in groups of at least 3. If each of those three are equipped with say 40k worth of gear, and each loses say four clones, that is 120k in loses. Each battle that they run pays usually 200k plus, so they have netted 80k in profit.
Districts allow a Corporation to lessen, or altogether remove, the financial strain on their Mercenaries and even encourage them to take risks that perhaps they would not have taken on their own. For example, becoming a Tanker or Pilot is not only costly in the terms of training costs, but also in fielding a well fitted Tank or Dropship and if left to your own earnings becomes a cost that if you have a few bad contracts, can be bankrupting. However if a Corp can "eat" these costs for a pilot or driver it allows for experimentation. Thesis on Tribal Traditionalism |

Caellach Marellus
Aideron Technologies
956
|
Posted - 2013.05.18 19:16:00 -
[27] - Quote
Quote:MOLDEN HEATH - According to reports from Republic law enforcement, the Angel Cartel has begun to experience a downturn in fortune within Molden Heath from a combination of cloned mercenaries, Thukker Tribe assets, and elements of the Republic Fleet. While the Thukker Tribe and Republic Fleet have been active in Molden Heath for years, the newly settled cloned mercenaries have enabled them to refocus their operations...
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/angel-cartel-feels-pressure-in-molden-heath/
Looks like it's been a success so far, excellent news.
Enjoy your gaming.
http://northern-goblin.blogspot.com |
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |