Why choose to put a 200M skill point toon into a Frigate? Why are players using such toons in combat... they want the advantage.

From a game balance point clone prices should go up. Mudflation and power creep are both limited by very expensive clone costs.

Then don't use it.

Train up another toon problem solved.

I have seen biiter vets tell new players they can be effective in one day to fly a Frigate. Why don't they do it?

This I agree with. A different argument.

Game mechanics that artificially restrict/linit players from PvP should be looked at.

Why isn' it? You know clone cost are going up?

Risk vs reward.

I know it cost you ISK and you don't like that, but you should know that alos before you but that toon in a frigate.

High clone costs are detrimental to high SP characters. Those characters have very substantial advantages.

There will come a point at which the newest players have no way to effect the older players

But what happens if that actual result is bitter vets just save a couple of ISK.

You are not barred... it just costs you.

That's a good argument. I don't know how big of a sink clone costs are tbqh... I guess if I knew that I'd have to re-evaluate my position.

older players make more money so the cost's of theyre living/playing/dieing should be higher .

So. Your argument is that it's boring to grind up isk to pay for a new clone and if people don't have to do that more people would pvp?

However, the major thing about this game is that losses should (in my opinion) hurt.

implants? what is implants?

it's why ccp originally gave you 3 char slots.

there was nothing wrong with the design. it was built and planned that way from the start.

it was there for people who planned ahead and actually beleived in the game.

they want all the pluses and none of the negatives.

because it widens the gap between new players and old.

it's a balance an equalizer that you lot want shifted.

Thats not true at all Tipia. Eve has no class restrictions but that doesn't mean that one character should learn all the skills and do everything.

Part of the fun of the game is building characters into existing niches.

The game is working as intended with forced specialization for some activities.

You're still avoiding the question. Why do you pvp if losses doesn't mean anything?

You don't need 150 million skill points to go out in Eve and RP and have fun in mindless PvP. If you want to fight cheap and not be concerned about ISK then join FW. It is specifically designed for players like you.

If you don't want to play the bigger game then don't play it.

I think that it doesn't make sense to players who log in to look at their great and powerful character and all their assets and feel good about themselves because their toon is all ubber.

Its being "denied" to them because its something that they are not interested in.

Sure they can, just start flying in an alpha grade clone, they will save billions.

but as was pointed out earlier it takes a loooong time to get good at everything.

And like digging out of a bad faction hole it takes effort and work and sacrifice.

It might not be the best design for a game that revolves around pvp. But for a sandbox it is perfect.

They could just admit failure and start over. Failure is still an option in Eve isn't it?