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Hateful One	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:04:00 - [1] After reading this article http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,16559,1589967,00.html it makes me wonder if this could effect the EVE-Online servers and my ability to connect to them? The jist of the article is the European Union is arguing with the States over control over the DNS servers hosted by ICANN. Read for yourself.
Aeon	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:06:00 - [2] Don't believe everything that's written That would essentially be economic suicide for both sides, now would they really do that over a dispute of this (minor) magnitude?
SengH	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:06:00 - [3] I'd be more worried about the Level 3 / Cognet dispute if I were you. My schools been affected... I can connect faster to europe than I can to other places within the US. Which is pretty fubared considering were on the US backbone.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:12:00 - [4] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/10/2005 21:12:30 lol, they should try and pull a stunt like that. I will personally arrange to have the EU HQ stormed and conquered by hordes of angry geeks. ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Ardenne	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/10/2005 21:12:30 lol, they should try and pull a stunt like that. I will personally arrange to have the EU HQ stormed and conquered by hordes of angry geeks. Visualizing this made me laugh... hard _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I'm not sure I want popular opinion on my side -- I've noticed those with the most opinions often have the fewest facts.
Aeon	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:18:00 - [6] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/10/2005 21:12:30 lol, they should try and pull a stunt like that. I will personally arrange to have the EU HQ stormed and conquered by hordes of angry geeks. EU HQ? You would die before you could make your way through all the paperwork and bureaucracy there
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:20:00 - [7] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/10/2005 21:20:07 Originally by: Aeon Originally by: Joshua Foiritain lol, they should try and pull a stunt like that. I will personally arrange to have the EU HQ stormed and conquered by hordes of angry geeks. EU HQ? You would die before you could make your way through all the paperwork and bureaucracy there I'm quite trained at the art of zombie slaying, which is pretty much the same way one deals with politicians. ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
MaiLina KaTar	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:49:00 - [8] Plus... geeks vs. EU-HQ guards is pretty much a 100:1 gankfest. Mai's Idealog
GC13	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:54:00 - [9] We can only hope that the EU looks to France for its security personnel.
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2005.10.13 22:08:00 - [10] It is of course worth noting that this would not effect Tranquility because our clients are using ip addresses to connect directly (ie, no DNS lookup).
Dionysus Davinci	Posted - 2005.10.13 22:11:00 - [11] Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 13/10/2005 22:12:12 Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 13/10/2005 22:11:35 Originally by: Hllaxiu It is of course worth noting that this would not effect Tranquility because our clients are using ip addresses to connect directly (ie, no DNS lookup). Actually, they want to cut them off entirley. Though the only countries actually threatening to leave are Russia, China, and Brazil. I don't know about you guys, but I won't miss all the open relays, the spam, the massive amount of effected machines, the webcam *****s and the isk ebayers. Also, what do you think they are going to say when they wake up to find no google and 98% of the Internets gone.
infused	Posted - 2005.10.13 22:13:00 - [12] It's old news... it is never going to happen.
nahtoh	Posted - 2005.10.13 22:13:00 - [13] Originally by: Hateful One After reading this article http://technology.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,16559,1589967,00.html it makes me wonder if this could effect the EVE-Online servers and my ability to connect to them? The jist of the article is the European Union is arguing with the States over control over the DNS servers hosted by ICANN. Read for yourself. You make no mention of the US backing out of a prev agreement or the fact that the EU (of which i am not a fan) is trying to be the middle ground between two very far apart positions. "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS)
Wendat Huron	Posted - 2005.10.13 22:25:00 - [14] Fighting geeks with geeks, it's a proven tactic.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.10.13 23:08:00 - [15] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/10/2005 21:20:07 Originally by: Aeon Originally by: Joshua Foiritain lol, they should try and pull a stunt like that. I will personally arrange to have the EU HQ stormed and conquered by hordes of angry geeks. EU HQ? You would die before you could make your way through all the paperwork and bureaucracy there I'm quite trained at the art of zombie slaying, which is pretty much the same way one deals with politicians. Cricket bat 4TW!!!! Sig modified due to xenophobic comments -Iacon
jbob2000	Posted - 2005.10.14 00:07:00 - [16] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/10/2005 21:12:30 lol, they should try and pull a stunt like that. I will personally arrange to have the EU HQ stormed and conquered by hordes of angry geeks. Here, you can use my +1 mace
Muthsera	Posted - 2005.10.14 01:39:00 - [17] what you see here is another atempt to force US to consive more to the internation community in terms of control. It's not about EU getting control of the net. It's about US not having the chief right in this. It's about moving the control of the net to UN control. The possision of UN is just. The US one is merly on preserving control. It's no problem for US to control it on a practical basis. But what this is about is that the trust US once had around this. Is now gone. And on a idelogical basis it's not good for one contry to control the chief accest of the net. In my mind it's best for the trust and greater use of the net. That it's not control chiefly and solely in the hands on one fraction. SoonÖ
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2005.10.14 01:43:00 - [18] *FIRE ZE MISSILES*
SGXiphias	Posted - 2005.10.14 01:49:00 - [19] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia *FIRE ZE MISSILES* But im tired
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.10.14 01:49:00 - [20] The US doesn't control ICANN...what makes you want the UN to control it? ~Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss Biomass fears me.
Colonel O'Neill	Posted - 2005.10.14 02:03:00 - [21] Originally by: SGXiphias Originally by: Malthros Zenobia *FIRE ZE MISSILES* But im tired LMAO Click here if you don't know what they are talking about // Colonel O'Neill
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2005.10.14 02:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Muthsera The possision of UN is just. The US one is merly on preserving control. It's no problem for US to control it on a practical basis. But what this is about is that the trust US once had around this. Is now gone. And on a idelogical basis it's not good for one contry to control the chief accest of the net. Except the US doesn't have that power. ICANN can add TLDs and is a tribunal for disuptes regarding TLDs. Verisign holds more power over the internet, and with the exception of sitefinder ICANN hasn't stood in their way. This is just grandstanding.
Spathi	Posted - 2005.10.15 17:34:00 - [23] Living in London a few miles from the datacenter FTW!
Gummie	Posted - 2005.10.15 18:03:00 - [24] I've been reading a lot about this on slashdot and one of the main pushes seems to be some countries in the EU want control of the DNS systems so that it will be easier for them to filter out content that they dislike. Something that the US has refused to do. In other hilarious EU news... http://euobserver.com/9/20080 Some members of the EU are evidently calling for a common policy regarding circuses...

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