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Pottsey
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Posted - 2005.10.14 07:14:00 -
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ô4 Years, 155 Days, 11 Hours, 55 Minutes, and 25 Seconds.ö I donÆt agree my level 5 learning skills took less then 30 days to pay them selves back. Getting advanced Charisma to level 5 is one of the best things I ever did.
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Pottsey
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Posted - 2005.10.17 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Pottsey on 17/10/2005 06:53:49 ôThe only benefits are psychological and then only if you haven't really looked at things properly.ö I always say itÆs the other way around. Its the people who think it always takes 3+ years to pay back are the ones who havenÆt looked at it properly.
I maxed out in my chosen areas having lvl 5 skills and being perfect at what I did. I then trained Charisma advanced level 5 as there wasnÆt nothing else worth while. Then the gang assist and advanced leadership skills came out. (My old job was a miner with a Large barge and T2 beams / T2 crystals)
The reason I say the lvl 5 advanced skill payed its self back in 30days is I can train the advanced leadership skills far faster then someone how hasnÆt got advanced Charisma at level 5. More so as I also have a high Charisma on top of implants and lvl 5 skills.
It would take most people months to catch up to where I am at and soon I will be ready to train up for flagship/command ships which I hope are out soon.
The point of advanced leadership skills is to train new skills far faster then someone without advanced leadership. IE having a cloaking device or gang assist module weeks before the enemy has the skills is a big advantages for a while. Then after the enemy has got the skills you have already had training time to perfect the modules use while they are just starting.
All I did was lose 20 to 30 days to get Charisma advanced level 5. Then I learnt new skills faster then everyone else. It seems wrong to say thatÆs a 1+year for payback.
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Posted - 2005.12.23 15:01:00 -
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ôPottsey, I think why no one has replied to your post is because, you are pretty clueless on the subject..ö I am no clueless in fact I am correct. I got level 5 advanced Charisma about a year ago. I have learnt the advanced leadership skills to level 5, based on Charisma. While everyone else had to spend a lot longer then me to learn those new skills. Just look at all the people complaining about the skills needed to fly T2 BCÆs. Because I have level 5 advanced Charisma I learnt the needed skills ages ago and I didnÆt spend nearly as long as people who have Charisma in the single digits.
So getting level 5 advanced Charisma didnÆt take 3 years to pay its self back. It paid its self back in well under a year.
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Posted - 2005.12.23 18:59:00 -
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ôlet's for the calculation assume you have about the same perc and will... that means that in the time you trained 632235 points from adv. charisma 4 to 5 you could have trained the same amount of points in leadership skills... ô Accept I couldnÆt because back then the advanced leadership skills where not out. What happens is I train up my advanced learning skills to level 5 someone else trains up combat skills. Later on advanced leadership skills come out and new leadership based ships come out. Both me and the other person who doesnÆt have advanced learning skills to level 5 train up for advanced leadership starting at the same time. Only I train up faster due to advanced leaning skills at level 5. So in practical terms advanced learning level 5 paid its self back right away not over a year.
öso after that training was done you benefit 1 point per minute whaile training leadership skills... 632235 minutes / 60 / 24 = 439 days that means that it would take that long of training skills with char as primary and will as secondary to get even...ö So many people get too lost in the logic and math to see the practical side. It doesnÆt work like you say...well it does from a math point of view. From a practical point of view I maxed out my drone and basic leadership skills to level 5 a long time ago. So I got the advanced learning skills to level 5 as there wasnÆt anything else worth training. Even though people like you said it would takes 439+ days to pay its self back. Then new drones and new leadership skills came out. More leadership skills are due soon and there are the other useful new skills like the shield and amour skills all of which I train faster then most other people.
Every time a new skill, ship or profession comes out like hacking or command ships and I train for it from day 1 I am ahead of everyone who didnÆt bother to get advanced leaning skills to level 5. If you look at it like that it doesnÆt take 439+ days break even. Only 1 day.
You can bet there will be more advance leadership skills and other new skills I want to train. In fact there are some on market like wingcommand that are not for sale yet.
Compare training up for a new profession with advanced Learning skills at level 5 and someone without them at level 5. Then you see the true advantage of advanced Learning level 5.
Now I do agree for some pilots it will take 439 days+ for the skills to pay them selvesÆ back but only if that pilot could have spent he spent on learning, advanced learning skills on those other base skills.
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Posted - 2005.12.24 00:39:00 -
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ö If you REALLY had nothing better to train, then it's fine. But I don't think too many people fall into that category, only old veterans or hardcore specializers..ö I guess it depends on your job a lot of none combat people do max out there profession and run out of things worth while to train. It takes roughly 14million skillpoints to max out the 4 main professions I do. I have 31 million skillpoints and I am not an old veteran. So as you can see I ran out of useful things to train a long time ago. Well until RMR hit now I have stuff to do again.
A lot of the none combat people are the people who train up advanced learning to level 5 while waiting for a new profession to come out. The choice was a lot easier in the past and it made sense to train advanced learning. ItÆs a harder choice for new pilots as they have more options.
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