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Draik Olacar
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:37:00 -
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If I start BC5 right now, i have 25 days on it, what would happen once Odyssey is released? would it stop at like 5 days and make me do each BC5 individually or will it keep going till im done with the skill and give me BC5 for all races? |

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2574
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:40:00 -
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I don't think you're gonna like the answer. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1954
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:43:00 -
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From what I understand, it will clone whatever SP you have in that skill into four separate skills. So you might have to finish five days on each. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |

Britta Nolen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:52:00 -
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remap to per/will and plug in some implants to get it down. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
3377
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Posted - 2013.05.15 03:54:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-great-skill-change-of-blessed-2013/
Quote:Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price. Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for. If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed. Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you donGÇÖt train either of these skills. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

DRGaius Baltar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.05.15 04:05:00 -
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Draik Olacar wrote:If I start BC5 right now, i have 25 days on it, what would happen once Odyssey is released? would it stop at like 5 days and make me do each BC5 individually or will it keep going till im done with the skill and give me BC5 for all races?
No you're SOL
Welcome to EVE |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1849
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Posted - 2013.05.15 04:14:00 -
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you'll get all races at whatever % of the skill youve already trained. (assuming you have the cruiser pre requ.) |

Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
155
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Posted - 2013.05.15 07:30:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-great-skill-change-of-blessed-2013/ Quote:Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price. Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for. If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed. Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you donGÇÖt train either of these skills. The last dev communication I read said rational integer skill levels only so this is a huge gain for those racing for as many meaningless SP as they can get... |

Draik Olacar
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2013.05.15 11:16:00 -
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How do i decrease the time? and what would i need?
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Signal11th
The Retirement Club
961
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Posted - 2013.05.15 12:17:00 -
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implants +3 + 4 pr +5 's plus you can remap specifically for the skills e.g memory,intelligence etc that ships require and this can take your time down by a few days. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
734
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Posted - 2013.05.15 12:52:00 -
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Signal11th wrote:implants +3 + 4 pr +5 's plus you can remap specifically for the skills e.g memory,intelligence etc that ships require and this can take your time down by a few days.
Erm, ships is perception/willpower, don't tell him the bad road.
@Adam
If you don't have "Cybernetics" skill trained at 4 then forget it, even with Cyb4 right now I think you're already late even if you could plug +5's Makes one year CCP announced this change so all of those who were already playing the game have no excuse for not having it already, for those of you who started earlier this month you can't get all BC's 5 but you can at least get all destroyers 5 and this is already awesome, all of those shiny pesky hated and feared Interdictors.
Plug the "thing" on Evemoon and make yourself a ships plan ASAP, for everything else Eve is a long term playing game, do'nt worry about a couple days lost or max training, you'll see at some point you'll even forget to put skills on the skill que (happens to me very often) *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Blod Nasir
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.15 15:56:00 -
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ok I'm dumb but I need some clarification on this
Quote:If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed. which skill points will be moved?? :s
I mean: old BC 5 should translate into 4x racial BC 5 right? Or does it mean that if I don't train racial cru 3 I won't have racial BC 5 at all but I'll find my skillset with 4x racial BC injected at lvl0 plus the equivalent of a racial BC 5 reimbursed in my free allocation pool? Or what else?
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
3849
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:03:00 -
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I wonder why people are scrambling to get this done still.
Everyone else got this done months ago..without implants or remaps.
also, INB4 "want free remap". Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
48
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:11:00 -
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Britta Nolen wrote:remap to per/will and plug in some implants to get it down.
This, if at all possible.
/edit also sucks to be you op, if i understand the changes to skills correctly. |

Danni stark
270
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:14:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I wonder why people are scrambling to get this done still.
Everyone else got this done months ago..without implants or remaps.
also, INB4 "want free remap".
because at first i thought "my alts will never fly those ships" then i thought "oh **** it, it's free SP i might as well". wasted a remap on one, and the other won't be finished in time. oh well, not that bothered. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |

Velicitia
Nex Exercitus
1540
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:18:00 -
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Blod Nasir wrote:ok I'm dumb but I need some clarification on this Quote:If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed. which skill points will be moved?? :s I mean: old BC 5 should translate into 4x racial BC 5 right? Or does it mean that if I don't train racial cru 3 I won't have racial BC 5 at all but I'll find my skillset with 4x racial BC injected at lvl0 plus the equivalent of a racial BC 5 reimbursed in my free allocation pool? Or what else?
Old BC5 will translate into racial BC5 IF AND ONLY IF you meet the prereq of training AT LEAST ONE RACIAL BATTLECRUISER SKILL.
For Example --> Gallente Battlecruiser Skill Prereq lists "Gallente Cruiser, Level 3" (replace "Gallente" with your favored race).
- If right now you have Gallente Cruiser 3, and Battlecruisers 5, this will be replaced with "Gallente Battlecruiser 5" on patch day.
- If right now, you have Gallente and Minmatar cruiser 3 and Battlecruisers 5, it will be replaced with "Gallente Battlecruiser 5" and "Minmatar Battlecruiser 5".
- If right now, you have Battlecruisers 5, and NO CRUISER SKILLS TO L3, you will get 1.5 million SP put into the free allocation pool.
One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia |

LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
48
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:20:00 -
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Blod Nasir wrote:ok I'm dumb but I need some clarification on this Quote:If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed. which skill points will be moved?? :s I mean: old BC 5 should translate into 4x racial BC 5 right? Or does it mean that if I don't train racial cru 3 I won't have racial BC 5 at all but I'll find my skillset with 4x racial BC injected at lvl0 plus the equivalent of a racial BC 5 reimbursed in my free allocation pool? Or what else?
Well I think people with BC lvl 5 now will gain lvl 5 in all racial skills, if i'm reading things correctly and I say this because I quite honestly don't have to worry since I can fly pretty everything subcap. However I think while it would be fair to give all those people who trained BC lvl 5 all the racial BC skills so that they can still fly every BC, I think it is UNFAIR that those who are new to the game and have not trained BC lvl 5 should now have to train for each race individually.
Again that is only how I understand it and if I understand it correctly, then every active player should be given the skills for free regardless of their current total skills trained because such big changes to skills will always put some people at a disadvantage purely because they didn't train skill 'x' |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
2765
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:22:00 -
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Mwa ha ha ha ha! 8 days to BC5. 
I have da powuh. |

LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
48
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:32:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/74234
Quote:First, ship progression is not consistent. We have racial spaceship command skills (like Amarr Frigate, Amarr Cruiser, Amarr Battleship) mixed with generic skills (Destroyers and Battlecruisers). This creates unneeded complexity
Well this logic quite simply pisses me off a little in a very unnerving way, complexity? The current way that skills work are not complex at all... Does CCP understand the term if something works then don't try to fix it? Introducing more skills will only make things MORE complex idiots...  |

Blod Nasir
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:36:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:For Example --> Gallente Battlecruiser Skill Prereq lists "Gallente Cruiser, Level 3" missed that part, thanks for clarifying
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:I wonder why people are scrambling to get this done still.
Everyone else got this done months ago..without implants or remaps. actually I'm scrambling to have some unallocated SP, so even if I did set my skillqueue months ago I didn't know about the "free SP" thingy, so now I wanted to be sure about which skillbok to NOT inject before odissey ;) |

LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
48
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Posted - 2013.05.15 16:56:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Blod Nasir wrote:ok I'm dumb but I need some clarification on this Quote:If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed. which skill points will be moved?? :s I mean: old BC 5 should translate into 4x racial BC 5 right? Or does it mean that if I don't train racial cru 3 I won't have racial BC 5 at all but I'll find my skillset with 4x racial BC injected at lvl0 plus the equivalent of a racial BC 5 reimbursed in my free allocation pool? Or what else? Old BC5 will translate into racial BC5 IF AND ONLY IF you meet the prereq of training AT LEAST ONE RACIAL BATTLECRUISER SKILL. For Example --> Gallente Battlecruiser Skill Prereq lists "Gallente Cruiser, Level 3" (replace "Gallente" with your favored race).
- If right now you have Gallente Cruiser 3, and Battlecruisers 5, this will be replaced with "Gallente Battlecruiser 5" on patch day.
- If right now, you have Gallente and Minmatar cruiser 3 and Battlecruisers 5, it will be replaced with "Gallente Battlecruiser 5" and "Minmatar Battlecruiser 5".
- If right now, you have Battlecruisers 5, and NO CRUISER SKILLS TO L3, you will get 1.5 million SP put into the free allocation pool.
Am I right in understanding this won't actually increase the total time needed in order to fly all race variants of battlecruisers or what ever else? |

Goldiiee
Tax and War Haven
379
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:13:00 -
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Another possibility (If I am reading this correct) is train the BC skill as close to V as you can get (Preferably to V), donGÇÖt train one of the racial cruiser skills to 3. When the patch comes through you will get distributable points for the racial BC you donGÇÖt have the prerequisites for totalling up to 1.5 million SP to distribute. DonGÇÖt waste them, train the prerequisite and then apply the SP to BCGÇÖs Effectively allowing you to train them by clicking GÇÿdistribute pointsGÇÖ whenever you like. You my friend,-ádefy the whole theory of natural selection. |

Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
178
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Posted - 2013.05.15 17:29:00 -
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Goldiiee wrote:Another possibility (If I am reading this correct) is train the BC skill as close to V as you can get (Preferably to V), donGÇÖt train one of the racial cruiser skills to 3. When the patch comes through you will get distributable points for the racial BC you donGÇÖt have the prerequisites for totalling up to 1.5 million SP to distribute. DonGÇÖt waste them, train the prerequisite and then apply the SP to BCGÇÖs Effectively allowing you to train them by clicking GÇÿdistribute pointsGÇÖ whenever you like.
Except you'll likely only get the SPs for ONE racial BC skill thus missing out on the 'free' SP part of the deal. |

Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
101
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Posted - 2013.05.16 00:29:00 -
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Blod Nasir wrote: actually I'm scrambling to have some unallocated SP, so even if I did set my skillqueue months ago I didn't know about the "free SP" thingy, so now I wanted to be sure about which skillbok to NOT inject before odissey ;)
You only get unallocated SP if you have skill in BC and NO cruiser skills.
If you have any cruiser skills at all, you get no unallocated SP.
Even if you have no cruiser skills, you only get as much unallocated SP as you've spent in BC, so you might as well have just trained that SP in whatever you wanted it in anyway. |

Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
62
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:00:00 -
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Seriously. This has been announced for over a year.... I interrupted my training plan to fit in those skills right after fanfest 2012 thinking the change would happen fast. Wasted a free remap on it. Then CCP announced it would only be in a year, made a zillion blogs about it completely ruining it for vigilant players who like the hardworking ants they are, already made sacrifices to get the skills.
If even now there are players around who still don't get it nor made any effort, I say they don't play EVE at all and they shouldn't get a single free point of SP.. CCP is pampering the idiots too much, it is getting annoying. Reopen the EVE gate so we can invade Serenity. Goons can go first. |

Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:39:00 -
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Radius Prime wrote:Seriously. This has been announced for over a year.... I interrupted my training plan to fit in those skills right after fanfest 2012 thinking the change would happen fast. Wasted a free remap on it. Then CCP announced it would only be in a year, made a zillion blogs about it completely ruining it for vigilant players who like the hardworking ants they are, already made sacrifices to get the skills.
If even now there are players around who still don't get it nor made any effort, I say they don't play EVE at all and they shouldn't get a single free point of SP.. CCP is pampering the idiots too much, it is getting annoying. Look at OP's corp.
He's new, give him a break. |

Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
152
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:42:00 -
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why not just combine all the spaceship command skills into generic skills... ie: Frigates, Destroyers, Cruisers, etc, etc....
Any SP we've earned for specific racial ship skills can just go into the unallocated pool, and uber-simplify everything... "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Six Six Six
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2013.05.16 01:44:00 -
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Sal Landry wrote:Radius Prime wrote:Seriously. This has been announced for over a year.... I interrupted my training plan to fit in those skills right after fanfest 2012 thinking the change would happen fast. Wasted a free remap on it. Then CCP announced it would only be in a year, made a zillion blogs about it completely ruining it for vigilant players who like the hardworking ants they are, already made sacrifices to get the skills.
If even now there are players around who still don't get it nor made any effort, I say they don't play EVE at all and they shouldn't get a single free point of SP.. CCP is pampering the idiots too much, it is getting annoying. Look at OP's corp. He's new, give him a break.
He's even asking nicely and not even moaning about it. |

Akali Kuvakei
Eclipse Navy. Test Alliance Please Ignore
16
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Posted - 2013.05.16 02:01:00 -
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Well I think people with BC lvl 5 now will gain lvl 5 in all racial skills, if i'm reading things correctly and I say this because I quite honestly don't have to worry since I can fly pretty everything subcap. However I think while it would be fair to give all those people who trained BC lvl 5 all the racial BC skills so that they can still fly every BC, I think it is UNFAIR that those who are new to the game and have not trained BC lvl 5 should now have to train for each race individually.
Psssst remember learning skills? You still mad about that? Yeah you mad. You real mad. Plsnomad#420blazepubbieerrrrday |

Kirjava
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
6460
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Posted - 2013.05.16 02:02:00 -
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All Cruisers 5. All Frigates 5.
Destroyer 5. Battlecruiser 5.
Awwww yeaaaa. 
Haruhiists - Overloading Out of Pod discussions since 2007. Cardinal Kirjava - Redeclaring the Crusade in the name of the Goddess since 2012. /S¦¦GùòGÇ+GÇ+GùòS¦¦\ |
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