Removal and refund of all Destroyers and Battlecruisers skill books at the NPC order price.
Partial skill training will be properly be saved and duplicated. If you are halfway between Destroyers 3 and 4 when the change hits, your progress will be properly copied to all the racial Destroyer skills you are eligible for.
If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.
Skill queues having Destroyer and/or Battlecruiser in-training will be paused at the time of the change. If you expect to be away for a long time when the reimbursement hits, please make sure you donGÇÖt train either of these skills.

If I start BC5 right now, i have 25 days on it, what would happen once Odyssey is released? would it stop at like 5 days and make me do each BC5 individually or will it keep going till im done with the skill and give me BC5 for all races?

http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/the-great-skill-change-of-blessed-2013/

implants +3 + 4 pr +5 's plus you can remap specifically for the skills e.g memory,intelligence etc that ships require and this can take your time down by a few days.

If, for some odd reason, you have Destroyers and/or Battlecruisers skills, but have no Racial Frigate/Cruiser 3 at all, then the skill points will be moved in the free allocation pool when the old skills are removed.

remap to per/will and plug in some implants to get it down.

I wonder why people are scrambling to get this done still.

Everyone else got this done months ago..without implants or remaps.

also, INB4 "want free remap".

ok I'm dumb but I need some clarification on this

which skill points will be moved?? :s

I mean: old BC 5 should translate into 4x racial BC 5 right? Or does it mean that if I don't train racial cru 3 I won't have racial BC 5 at all but I'll find my skillset with 4x racial BC injected at lvl0 plus the equivalent of a racial BC 5 reimbursed in my free allocation pool? Or what else?

ok I'm dumb but I need some clarification on this

which skill points will be moved?? :s

I mean: old BC 5 should translate into 4x racial BC 5 right? Or does it mean that if I don't train racial cru 3 I won't have racial BC 5 at all but I'll find my skillset with 4x racial BC injected at lvl0 plus the equivalent of a racial BC 5 reimbursed in my free allocation pool? Or what else?

First, ship progression is not consistent. We have racial spaceship command skills (like Amarr Frigate, Amarr Cruiser, Amarr Battleship) mixed with generic skills (Destroyers and Battlecruisers). This creates unneeded complexity

For Example --> Gallente Battlecruiser Skill Prereq lists "Gallente Cruiser, Level 3"

I wonder why people are scrambling to get this done still.

Everyone else got this done months ago..without implants or remaps.

Old BC5 will translate into racial BC5 IF AND ONLY IF you meet the prereq of training AT LEAST ONE RACIAL BATTLECRUISER SKILL.

For Example --> Gallente Battlecruiser Skill Prereq lists "Gallente Cruiser, Level 3" (replace "Gallente" with your favored race).

• If right now you have Gallente Cruiser 3, and Battlecruisers 5, this will be replaced with "Gallente Battlecruiser 5" on patch day.
• If right now, you have Gallente and Minmatar cruiser 3 and Battlecruisers 5, it will be replaced with "Gallente Battlecruiser 5" and "Minmatar Battlecruiser 5".
• If right now, you have Battlecruisers 5, and NO CRUISER SKILLS TO L3, you will get 1.5 million SP put into the free allocation pool.

Another possibility (If I am reading this correct) is train the BC skill as close to V as you can get (Preferably to V), donGÇÖt train one of the racial cruiser skills to 3. When the patch comes through you will get distributable points for the racial BC you donGÇÖt have the prerequisites for totalling up to 1.5 million SP to distribute. DonGÇÖt waste them, train the prerequisite and then apply the SP to BCGÇÖs Effectively allowing you to train them by clicking GÇÿdistribute pointsGÇÖ whenever you like.

actually I'm scrambling to have some unallocated SP, so even if I did set my skillqueue months ago I didn't know about the "free SP" thingy, so now I wanted to be sure about which skillbok to NOT inject before odissey ;)

Seriously. This has been announced for over a year.... I interrupted my training plan to fit in those skills right after fanfest 2012 thinking the change would happen fast. Wasted a free remap on it. Then CCP announced it would only be in a year, made a zillion blogs about it completely ruining it for vigilant players who like the hardworking ants they are, already made sacrifices to get the skills.

If even now there are players around who still don't get it nor made any effort, I say they don't play EVE at all and they shouldn't get a single free point of SP.. CCP is pampering the idiots too much, it is getting annoying.

Look at OP's corp.

He's new, give him a break.

Well I think people with BC lvl 5 now will gain lvl 5 in all racial skills, if i'm reading things correctly and I say this because I quite honestly don't have to worry since I can fly pretty everything subcap. However I think while it would be fair to give all those people who trained BC lvl 5 all the racial BC skills so that they can still fly every BC, I think it is UNFAIR that those who are new to the game and have not trained BC lvl 5 should now have to train for each race individually.



Psssst remember learning skills? You still mad about that? Yeah you mad. You real mad. Plsnomad#420blazepubbieerrrrday

The last dev communication I read said rational integer skill levels only so this is a huge gain for those racing for as many meaningless SP as they can get...
In fact, I think it was that devblog and the follow-up thread... stealth edit?

I have the following:
Frigs- 4+
Destroyer-4
Cruisers-3+
Battle Cruiser-4

I wonder why people are scrambling to get this done still.

Everyone else got this done months ago..without implants or remaps.

also, INB4 "want free remap".

All Cruisers 5.
All Frigates 5.

Destroyer 5.
Battlecruiser 5.

Awwww yeaaaa.

Am I right in understanding this won't actually increase the total time needed in order to fly all race variants of battlecruisers or what ever else?

Mwa ha ha ha ha! 8 days to BC5.


I have da powuh.

Look at OP's corp.

He's new, give him a break.

He shouldn't have any business in a bc either way then as he couldn't fly it decently anyhow. He should be glad he doesn't have to do learning skills for months before even flying anything bigger then a dessy. Really, you wont find any sympathy here.

Now I agree that those learning skills were pointless and uninviting to new people but giving everything on a silver platter is not breeding the EVE player with the right mentality either. With Odessey, CCP is making changes so newbs can be in battleships in weeks even capitals in 2 months. All you will get is more tears and more complaining. How much time then before they get rid of some of those nasty support skills as well? After all who needs those, they are only in the way of fast gameplay and being in the biggest ship you can, as fast as you can.

Patience is a virtue as well, and its a virtue that usually comes with age. It is the one reason why EVE has always had a great community. Patience to do those learning skills, accepting that sometimes it isn't your time yet to be in a certain ship, accepting that you need to follow orders in a fleet to be successful and patience with the leadership of your corp and alliance, even patience with CCP as a developer. It has always formed a barrier between us and the dumb, tween loud majority in the gaming world. Break it down too much and you'll open the floodgates for them to destroy what took 10 years to build.

CCP better watch out, cause once done it can't be undone.

I trained BC to 5 on both accounts in 2007. what kept you? BCs are awesome?