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Adam Dimaloun
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:41:00 -
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So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)
I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win) I don't want to commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well
So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with? Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well
I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics
o/ |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1967
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:43:00 -
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Well if you're afraid of doing something in a video game, there's not much hope for you and you should probably just k
Serious answer: how about you start up a corporation, send me fifty million, and then I start a war against it? Within a week, you'll either get over your fears, or go play something more fun. It's win-win for all of us. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |
JD No7
Malevolent Intentions Ineluctable.
39
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:44:00 -
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0.0 is not half as bad as what you may think, once you have moved there.
Do not take the empire link system camps as how the rest of 0.0 is. It's nothing like. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:44:00 -
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Went I went to null I took only what i needed there and left my hisec mission infrastructure intact. A lot of people decide to take everything and then whine how they lost it all on the way in. So only take what you need and then accumulate more while there, leave your hisec stuff in place. It is good to have something to fall back on. |
Danni stark
269
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:45:00 -
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null really isn't that bad.
the people tend to be nicer, and it's more obvious who's about to shoot you. Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
889
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:46:00 -
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Forum ate my post. Just take a bunch of T1 frigates into lowsec and attack anything you see. Oh god. |
Le Badass
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
79
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:47:00 -
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Find a friendly null sec corp who will take you in. Get on voice and do some hilarious roams with them - You'll never be the same player after that.
If you really can't find anyone willing to take you in (I can't imagine that), go to NPC null and live there for a while. |
Lt Kelson
Howling Stones Mining Corporation
1
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:49:00 -
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If you like to Exploration then I would reccomend doing C1 C2 wormholes from highsec or "daytripping" as some call it, with good flying you can do a C1 in an assault fright, have cleared sites in a Retribution and Enyo.
There is alot to learn with scanning and WH mechanics (no local, WH ship bonuses etc) but I found that most people left me alone in WH space if I was in an AF so it was a good way to start before I moved up to Battlecruisers.
Also would be well timed with the new scanning changes |
Adam Dimaloun
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:52:00 -
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It is not about fear to do something in a video game, I do stunts and crazy stuff in other games as well, the unique thing about eve makes you consider every move you make so you don't have to deal with its in-game consequences later (with lots of ISK loss or loss of pod that lead to loss of SP in case of non-upgraded clone), in other games you die, you spawn again... that's it
But if I got it correct, I should just get there with my pod or 1 expendable ship, then try to manage from there how to establish a base of operation? If that was the case I guess I can look on the routes/choke points between high/null or low/null and see what is the best to establish a logistics line for me |
Riot Girl
Thundercats The Initiative.
890
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:56:00 -
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What do you want to do in nullsec? Oh god. |
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1969
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Posted - 2013.05.15 09:56:00 -
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It will be significantly easier if you join a corporation that does whatever it is you want to do, trust me.
And keeping your clone updated shouldn't be a difficult task. Neither should be flying something that's not your entire net worth. It's common sense. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:
https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted |
Tara Read
The Bastards Shadow Cartel
373
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:00:00 -
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Adam Dimaloun wrote:So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)
I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win) I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well
So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with? Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well
I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics
o/
Get a Frigate and go to Low Sec. Learn to use the Directional Scanner and hunt prey. The rush you get with your first kill will be amazing as well as addicting. Frigs are cheap and great learning tools for getting combat experience. Hell even ransom your prey (turn a profit and always honor the ransom) and soon you'll forget Null Sec, laugh that you ever lived in High, and will wonder what the hell you ever did before becoming a dirty Pirate.
Trust Me. |
Just Lilly
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:01:00 -
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I recommend wormspace, establish your own base of operations from inside a C1, start from there. Powered by Nvidia GTX 690 |
Le Badass
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
79
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:01:00 -
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I started out in NPC null with a stealth bomber and a condor along with assorted modules and bubbles. If you want to start totally from scratch, find a system near medical facilites (for your clone when you die), refinery and production slots. Then, fly in a mining venture (will also be handy for slipping through gatecamps on the way) with some basic BPOs in the hold. Although pretty crappy compared to everything else, you can mine minerals and recycle dropped modules to build your own frigs and so on. The BPOs will cost you anywhere from 5-20M depending on what you choose to bring.
And yes, I know that a meta 0 slasher suxxorz, but an industrial or pod trapped in a bubble WILL die eventually. When you lose your meta 0 frig, it won't really matter.
Just my 2 cents. |
Wooly Akachi
Capital Storm. WHY so Seri0Us
4
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:02:00 -
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when i made the move out to null i found a corp that was quite happy to jump the ships i NEEDED out in the jump frieghter and i then flew a T1 frig out with stabs in the bottom, got through easy. Just set your death clone to the corp station just incase.
PVP was scary at first now i dont mind taking out SB's and BC's on a roam when we expect to all die. half the time dieing is funny as hell. the other half is killing something worth ten times the cost our fleet and feeling realy good afterwards |
Maruan Ibnis
Stillwater Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:03:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:Adam Dimaloun wrote:So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)
I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win) I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well
So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with? Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well
I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics
o/ Get a Frigate and go to Low Sec. Learn to use the Directional Scanner and hunt prey. The rush you get with your first kill will be amazing as well as addicting. Frigs are cheap and great learning tools for getting combat experience. Hell even ransom your prey (turn a profit and always honor the ransom) and soon you'll forget Null Sec, laugh that you ever lived in High, and will wonder what the hell you ever did before becoming a dirty Pirate. Trust Me.
This. If you need tips and someone to show you the basics, beep me in game, well set up a meeting.
Learn in lowsec and after you know what youre doing, try null
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Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
167
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:05:00 -
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Adam Dimaloun wrote:So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)
I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win) I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well
So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with? Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well
I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics
o/
join faction warfare. |
Bloody Wench
345
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:11:00 -
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Adam Dimaloun wrote:It is not about fear to do something in a video game, I do stunts and crazy stuff in other games as well, the unique thing about eve makes you consider every move you make so you don't have to deal with its in-game consequences later (with lots of ISK loss or loss of pod that lead to loss of SP in case of non-upgraded clone), in other games you die, you spawn again... that's it
But if I got it correct, I should just get there with my pod or 1 expendable ship, then try to manage from there how to establish a base of operation? If that was the case I guess I can look on the routes/choke points between high/null or low/null and see what is the best to establish a logistics line for me
You'll never make it with just your pod.
If you just want to day trip, then pack up a cov-ops and get to it.
Remember to jump to a different clone first....maybe no implants at all?
If you make it to where you want to go, spend a day dicking around out there, but don't get podded, then jump clone back to empire. Then you can go back anytime you like without running the gauntlet again.. Support a Hi Resolution Texture Pack |
Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
614
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:16:00 -
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Most of the advice offered is solid. Add in, you really need to look around for corps and alliances in Null to be there and not be ripping your hair out. Null is all about the blob. Take that as good or bad. Fleets, large groups of people on the same page or just a gank fest. It's very much opinion.
I'm not going to sell you any rose colored glasses. You will lose ships and unless you get in with a huge power bloc you will lose more than you make. Much of Null is trash. I've had a main in Null for a week and I've logged in twice a day, every day and did on board scans, then dropped 7 probes and did detailed scans of the system I am logging out in. Every day, twice a day, no scan detected. Nothing. No wormholes, no Ladar, no crumby combat sites, no Grav, zilch, zip, nadda. Yea, I'm about to pull out and head back to high sec. |
addelee
Low Sec Pharmacies
36
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:21:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:It will be significantly easier if you join a corporation that does whatever it is you want to do, trust me.
This.
Try to find a corp before you move to null that is happy to take you in and you have similar interests. I know we, as a corp, spend time moving people from highsec down into null. Often you'll find there's a wormhole that can be taken as a short cut and you'll have access to intel channels to identify choke points and hostile systems (gate camps). Moving stuff down shouldn't be an issue as many corps have jump freighter services.
Null isn't all that scary either. I had a similar experience to you with highsec and essentially became bored. Having moved to null, I couldn't think of anything worse than going back to high. There's always something to do down here with either pvp, pve (anoms, ded sites), industry (mining and manufacture) and a whole heap of exploration. Other than in PvP, it's rare to lose a ship unless you're just being careless or just plain unlucky. |
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Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
892
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:25:00 -
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The biggest risk is getting stuck with dud organizations. Do some research, and dont stick around if youre not having fun. |
JackknifedII
The Canaries
26
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:26:00 -
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If you are afraid of making the jump to 0.0 (bear in mind, it is actually less stressful and arguably safer than high sec) then join a small corp that roams in null, or join a null alliance.
Get some experience in pvp, just fit 10 cheap frigates and head into low sec. Shoot everything you can scramble. Get the phobias out of your system and experience the adrenaline rush that no other mmo except eve can deliver. The risk vs reward equation doesn't actually matter, since you only fly what you can afford to lose, right? Dreams are transitory in nature, and therefore wasted on the living... Minmatar....we are generally unpleasant to be around....
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Adam Dimaloun
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:34:00 -
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Seems most advices are going towards a null corp
I should look around for some names and ask friends then
Who knows, maybe I'll drop everything else and become a 23/7 nullsec addict
For lowsec, I feel I might want to go there, but after I see null, so if it don't work out for me, lowsec will be my fallback
Plenty of replies, all are very useful indeed |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9399
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:38:00 -
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Adam Dimaloun wrote:So from the title, I'm really bored from highsec and the boring mining/mission running in there, I'm kind of industry thing with little interest in pvp (I do love to pvp but I have some fear from it, which I'm trying to get over)
I loved EVE too much even if some people told me it don't suite me due to the fact that I fear taking risks (and EVE = risk + win) I don't want the commitment to be 23/7 nullsec drone or what comes to that, I just want to GTFO from that abomination called highsec and go explore/mine ABC and try get some pvp kills as well
So what did you guys did when you first joined in? any advices to take and work with? Keep in mind I'm below 10 million SP char, and I can fly all races up to battleships and Minmatar AFs, Amarr AFs with T2 full fits on them, also covops frigs as well
I see EVE as a big affective game to real life as well, because if not for the space, it would be real life with all its politics/risks and mechanics
o/
1) Create a jumpclone with no implants
2) Buy a fast frigate with 1-2 Warp Core Stabilisers, speed mods and an MWD. Maybe fit a salvager or two because you never know what you might find, and a single bit of good T2 salvage will pay for the whole ship.
3) Open up the map and find a 0.0 entry system that requires a few jumps through lo-sec to get to, and which doesn't show many pilots active right now
4) Go look around.
General advice:
1) 0.0 gateways are all regional gates. That means they're enormous. It's actually rather difficult to directly camp those gates, so it's usually the other gates in the system that are camped. So you probably won't get blapped when you jump in to 0.0, but there's some danger when you try to go to the next 0.0 system.
2) A rapidly travelling T1 frigate won't elicit much response from the inhabitants. They'll shoot you if they find you stuck in a bubble, but they're unlikely to go to any great effort.
3) Make bookmarks! Safespots, ping spots (a bookmark 200km off the gate so you can warp to the ping, check the gate out, and warp to the gate or run away as seems best)
1 Kings 12:11
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floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
8
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:48:00 -
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Just Lilly wrote:I recommend wormspace, establish your own base of operations from inside a C1, start from there.
Wormholes are a lot scarier than nullsec imo
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Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
1437
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:53:00 -
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floating in space wrote:Just Lilly wrote:I recommend wormspace, establish your own base of operations from inside a C1, start from there. Wormholes are a lot scarier than nullsec imo
^ This.
Best bet is to join a ****** alliance like a renter or CVA. Learn the ropes and break the ice when it comes to living in 0.0 then move up from there. Trying to explain being in a ****** renter corp or CVA, however might be problematic later on though. Improving NPE |
addelee
Low Sec Pharmacies
38
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Posted - 2013.05.15 10:57:00 -
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floating in space wrote: Wormholes are a lot scarier than nullsec imo
I kinda like wormholes. The lack of local makes it seem scarier than it actually is but once you check traffic with probes, you know whether to run or fight. Saying that, if you actually pickup another ship on the overview you know you should be locking with no second thought.
I find Lowsec the scariest place. It's out and out pvp whether you like it or not. Tried establishing myself there but the cost of ship replacement and the endless clone sink meant making a profit was near impossible (it no doubt is possible but I didn't find a way) |
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
216
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Posted - 2013.05.15 11:13:00 -
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Actually, right now is the best time to experince null since alot of big alliances are starting major fights. null will be alot of fun this summer. ...................................................... |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
9402
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Posted - 2013.05.15 11:29:00 -
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Xpaulusx wrote:Actually, right now is the best time to experince null since alot of big alliances are starting major fights. null will be alot of fun this summer.
And there's a good chance of picking up some tasty loot from abandoned wrecks.
1 Kings 12:11
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Desert Ice78
Cobra Kai Dojo WHY so Seri0Us
229
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Posted - 2013.05.15 11:41:00 -
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If you have the slightest inclination to want to get involved and be a team player, then nul sec corporations will grab you with both hands and hold you dearly to their collective bossom.
Its been 3 years now for me, and I was in the exact same position as you are. All I needed was a litttle pust, and then a little adjusting, and I never looked back. Take the jump, then look for help and you'll never look back.
P.S. In case it has to be said - if it even smells like a goon, run. I am a pod pilot: http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
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