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DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.10.16 05:28:00 - [181] Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row.
j0sephine	Posted - 2005.10.16 05:34:00 - [182] "NBSI sent a few frig fleets to [5] space, but to be honest, we have more fun in ASCN and VI space, so NBSI didn't contribute much at all to this victory." Afrodite, you've mentioned English isn't your first language, so... "didn't contribute much at all" isn't the same thing as "didn't contribute at all". The first means "we helped some/little", the latter means "we didn't help that (and so deserve no credit)". You're basically doing the thing you asked the others to do for you -- provide quotes where northern alliances try to claim some credit (although on the other hand equal number of sensible people from these alliances countered that... but you aren't quoting these) hope it helps (some/little)
RickJamez	Posted - 2005.10.16 05:35:00 - [183] Edited by: RickJamez on 16/10/2005 05:37:24 One long post deserves another eh? Better make it quick before the lock comes down. Having enjoyed the pleasure of a contract with M.Corp in delivering POS hardware & supplies, I can say I never heard anything from them nor noticed the usual signs that would indicate a war of attrition with POS towers. So anyone that says RA did a bunch of work to destroy [5] POS towers likely doesnÆt know wtf. As I remember it, FSA/RA was booted right out of Cache, one conquerable station after the other, relegated to backwater systems where full-time complex running and mining was only interrupted by the occasional necessity to log off when [5] ships entered the system and, to be fair to what I heard, some great engagements in the route between 995 and N-RAEL. That hardly warrants all this patting each otherÆs backs. I was disappointed when some time over a week ago I was politely informed the contract would be ending and that I should plan accordingly. When I asked if I had lost the contract to someone else, I was told that M.Corp was discontinuing its POS operation in 0.0 at that time (which, considering they still held sovereignty in three systems with conquerable stations, could only mean one of a few things). Some time later, a final purchase was made for delivery of additional weapons for what I would call one last showdown (in which they were successful at taking back stations that were ahem prematurely neglected). At this point an M.Corp member put it to me this way: homosexuals may love ghey rodeos, but that doesnÆt mean theyÆre cool. Heh, well it would seem M. (and Five) beat RA in their own * rodeo only to discover they didnÆt have the desire to sustain that kind of gameplay regardless of the image a withdraw from the region would bring. I thought, that might be called a defeat of sorts, but who wants to be part of a * rodeo anyways? Apparently no one in M.Corp enjoyed the whole thing even though they were achieving fair success. Heck, I donÆt blame them really and IÆm into POS. A contest to see who can take the most up there just isnÆt your normal, average gamerÆs can of corn, and probably not really something to toot your horn about if itÆs the only strategy one effectively employs tbh. I may have it all wrong and be biased since one of my main clients (former) is involved, but thatÆs still a behind the scenes look. Maybe Five really just got owned by RA, but I doubt that. Best of luck to 5 (especially M.Corp, far more than mild-mannered BPC salesmen), as well as RA, who keep my business flourishing. I guess good luck to the muppets as well, every squirrel deserves a nut I suppose, even if it really belongs to RA. It's a game - have fun. "Eve Online is one helluva drug..."
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.10.16 05:49:00 - [184] Originally by: j0sephine "NBSI sent a few frig fleets to [5] space, but to be honest, we have more fun in ASCN and VI space, so NBSI didn't contribute much at all to this victory." Afrodite, you've mentioned English isn't your first language, so... "didn't contribute much at all" isn't the same thing as "didn't contribute at all". The first means "we helped some/little", the latter means "we didn't help that (and so deserve no credit)". You're basically doing the thing you asked the others to do for you -- provide quotes where northern alliances try to claim some credit (although on the other hand equal number of sensible people from these alliances countered that... but you aren't quoting these) hope it helps (some/little) OMG you are looking alittle to hard to look for something to complain about. All the northern alliances understand that a few days worth of assistance is nothing compared to fight RA/RAT has given them for the past few months. And the5 should take this thread as a complement. This victory one to be celebrated only because the5 are such a great pvp alliance. If this victory was over ISS there would be no 7 page thread. Also bob are the last people in eve to be complaining about people celebrating over a victory. Ive read so many OMG BOB 4TW!!!111 threads on these forums i want to gouge my eyes out.
pershphanie	Posted - 2005.10.16 05:52:00 - [185] Originally by: Boabus Originally by: Afrodite Etnellag Originally by: unforg1ven Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56 Victim: The Five Location: Catch Time: 22:20:00 Date: 15/10/2005 Destroyed Tipe: Alliance Security Status: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow) Security Status: 5.0 Name: The Phoenix Alliance Security Status: 5.0 Name: The Forsaken Empire Security Status: 5.0 Name: NBSI Alliance Security Status: 5.0 Name: The Rest of our Friends DO i see a final blow over there that says RED ALLIANCE or not? Final Blow is the major hit F-E NBSI PA are not the reason that five fall! RA is, period. That to me seems like the north are taking credit for the "fall" of 5, no? oh come on. That was just a funny. Get a sense of humor. It was not an offical FE stance. Just a pilot having some fun with the situation.
j0sephine	Posted - 2005.10.16 05:58:00 - [186] "OMG you are looking alittle to hard to look for something to complain about." It wasn't a complaint ^^
Shin Ra	Posted - 2005.10.16 06:01:00 - [187] Originally by: DrunkenOne Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row. Does anyone else thing the Vagabond looks like a plucked chicken.
Hypocratus Maximus	Posted - 2005.10.16 06:20:00 - [188] WOW, just WOW at this thread. The amount of smalktalking and the general poor behavior demonstrated by tome F-E members is rahter shocking. Oh wait, check my name.
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2005.10.16 06:21:00 - [189] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: DrunkenOne Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row. Does anyone else thing the Vagabond looks like a plucked chicken. hmmmmmm.......so there is something we can aggree on. ......so say I Lucian Alucard of the blood line blah blah blah blah no one really cares anymore! The best joke ever!!!! [url]http://www.livejournal.com/users/sweet__kitty/40953.html?mode=reply
Kate Moss	Posted - 2005.10.16 06:26:00 - [190] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: DrunkenOne Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row. Does anyone else thing the Vagabond looks like a plucked chicken. I highly recomend you go get a flock of live chickens and find out. I hear they are rather cheap in Vietnam atm.
Raid	Posted - 2005.10.16 07:05:00 - [191] Originally by: DrunkenOne more importantly: [05:04:09 ] Zelota > DUKE DROKLAR IS BACK [05:04:13 ] Zelota > and he is reforming oc /me waits for Bared to come. now THAT is some interesting news..... yes Bared.. your the biggest OC fanboy... where are you?
Seleene	Posted - 2005.10.16 07:16:00 - [192] Originally by: Blacklight This thread is hilarious, so many people so quick to enjoy their moment of 'perceived' victory over [5]. So many people obviously clueless about how POS wars currently work and how Dreadnaughts currently work. I'll enjoy re-reading this thread in a couple of months time when Dreads have been balanced properly and the currently gimped soveriegnty system has been fixed. I foresee a lot of humble pie being eaten. Personally I hope [5] go and rub some of the crowing retards noses in it over the next couple of months until this POS and Dread mess has been sorted out. Until then kudos to RA and respect to [5]. Seeing as how I'm Blacklight's alt (or was it main?), I have to agree with the above. Dreads are going to change at some point and the rules of the game will shift. Respect to both RA and 5, but I've little doubt that Round 2 is not far off. - We're outnumbered! That simplifies the problem!
Hampstah	Posted - 2005.10.16 07:21:00 - [193] Originally by: Shin Ra Originally by: DrunkenOne Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row. Does anyone else thing the Vagabond looks like a plucked chicken. /me cries... You've completely ruined the experience of flying a Vagabond. I'm always going to think of a dead plucked chicken when flying it now p.s. both Persh and Cartiff acknowledged that the north had very little to do with this situation...so can we let it go now? ----- Beware Rodentz with Gunz
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2005.10.16 07:21:00 - [194] Who takes Zelota seriously, tbh? ------ If Captain James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock embracing one another, in a bath tube, nude, in space, is wrong, I don't want to be right.
WarRages	Posted - 2005.10.16 07:32:00 - [195] Edited by: WarRages on 16/10/2005 07:34:01 Originally by: RickJamez Edited by: RickJamez on 16/10/2005 05:37:24 One long post deserves another eh? Better make it quick before the lock comes down. Having enjoyed the pleasure of a contract with M.Corp in delivering POS hardware & supplies, I can say I never heard anything from them nor noticed the usual signs that would indicate a war of attrition with POS towers. So anyone that says RA did a bunch of work to destroy [5] POS towers likely doesnÆt know wtf. As I remember it, FSA/RA was booted right out of Cache, one conquerable station after the other, relegated to backwater systems where full-time complex running and mining was only interrupted by the occasional necessity to log off when [5] ships entered the system and, to be fair to what I heard, some great engagements in the route between 995 and N-RAEL. That hardly warrants all this patting each otherÆs backs. I was disappointed when some time over a week ago I was politely informed the contract would be ending and that I should plan accordingly. When I asked if I had lost the contract to someone else, I was told that M.Corp was discontinuing its POS operation in 0.0 at that time (which, considering they still held sovereignty in three systems with conquerable stations, could only mean one of a few things). Some time later, a final purchase was made for delivery of additional weapons for what I would call one last showdown (in which they were successful at taking back stations that were ahem prematurely neglected). At this point an M.Corp member put it to me this way: homosexuals may love ghey rodeos, but that doesnÆt mean theyÆre cool. Heh, well it would seem M. (and Five) beat RA in their own * rodeo only to discover they didnÆt have the desire to sustain that kind of gameplay regardless of the image a withdraw from the region would bring. I thought, that might be called a defeat of sorts, but who wants to be part of a * rodeo anyways? Apparently no one in M.Corp enjoyed the whole thing even though they were achieving fair success. Heck, I donÆt blame them really and IÆm into POS. A contest to see who can take the most up there just isnÆt your normal, average gamerÆs can of corn, and probably not really something to toot your horn about if itÆs the only strategy one effectively employs tbh. I may have it all wrong and be biased since one of my main clients (former) is involved, but thatÆs still a behind the scenes look. Maybe Five really just got owned by RA, but I doubt that. Best of luck to 5 (especially M.Corp, far more than mild-mannered BPC salesmen), as well as RA, who keep my business flourishing. I guess good luck to the muppets as well, every squirrel deserves a nut I suppose, even if it really belongs to RA. It's a game - have fun. You should have said "you don't know" guess all those pos's we shot down were actually figments of our imagination. Yes alot of hard work and dedication was put into this war and it finally paid off. Anyway thxs for the fun fights 5 and i'm sure we will see you all again. And to RA, the long haul may look like it's over but think we both know thats not true. Anyways repsect to 5 and hope a lesson of resolve was learned with this war. And wtf why are we not on that kill mail
Uggs386	Posted - 2005.10.16 07:43:00 - [196] HAHAHAHA 5 sucks meh opfff, mujhhnaa im so uber, gahas Pat and Max sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G MAXSuicide > dude, u couldnt get enough of me the other night Cmdr Patrick > i love you
Gerome Doutrande	Posted - 2005.10.16 07:48:00 - [197] gg ra, gl 5, hopefully this will lead to some interesting new things to read here soon.
shivan	Posted - 2005.10.16 07:54:00 - [198] Edited by: shivan on 16/10/2005 07:56:51 Edited by: shivan on 16/10/2005 07:54:22 OMG best song for this thread is Baby bltch by Aluminum babe oh and GL to someone to try and dl it, i had to buy the cd
Avon	Posted - 2005.10.16 07:58:00 - [199] I must be missing something here, because some of the posts seem a bit left field to me. RA made good use of a bad game mechanic. Before you flame me for that, read on. 5 had the same mechanics to work with, but could not make it work for them in the same way as RA, so props to RA. There are two real issues as I see it. Firstly, timezone. Now this is a constant problem not only with Eve, but with any PvP game which encourages grouping. It is only natural to group with people who are awake when you are! The reason that timezone gets noted as an issue here is because it amplifies the second issue. POS balance. The time balance between anchoring a POS and destroying it is way out. I have no issue with a fully active POS being a PITA to remove, but the same should not be true of a tower on its own. So, with these two issues we are in a position where claiming space is about anchoring or destroying towers. It isn't really about combat because of the timezone issue. With the current POS time balance, the game favours the people who can put up more POS, not destroy more. Undoubtedly this will be balanced at some point (I don't think that CCP want 1 guy in an indy being > POS siege fleet), but until then alliances like RA will have the upper hand. I can understand 5's descision - it must have been hard to make, and I can respect RA's ability. Personally I would be with 5 on this one, simply because I'd rather PvP than PvE, but RA used the best tactic under the current game mechanics. ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Kate Moss	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:05:00 - [200] Originally by: Liet Traep Originally by: unforg1ven Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56 Victim: The Five Location: Catch Time: 22:20:00 Date: 15/10/2005 Destroyed Tipe: Alliance Security Status: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow) Security Status: 5.0 Name: The Phoenix Alliance Security Status: 5.0 Name: The Forsaken Empire Security Status: 5.0 Name: NBSI Alliance Security Status: 5.0 Name: The Rest of our Friends Thanks for the mention RA and RAT. But we didn't have really much to do with it. this is a clear victory for you you guys and Copia War Rages. Congrats on your hard won victory. I think you should see who actually made the post you quoted. Neither [5] nor RA can be found in this thread. Rather, the unimportant people coming in and beating their chests. You don't have to like [5], or RA to see that much. GG embarassing yoursleves.
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:05:00 - [201] Well, RA did win their space. You can't deny it really. 5 is more dangerous now than ever tho...but hey, my guns arent picky. ~Captain Cutie, HFS Iron Fist Biomass fears me. Captain Cutie does not speak for the Phoenix Alliance.
Hypocratus Maximus	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:07:00 - [202] Edited by: Hypocratus Maximus on 16/10/2005 08:09:14 Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi Well, RA did win their space. You can't deny it really. 5 is more dangerous now than ever tho...but hey, my guns arent picky. LOL wow, PA truely is Argentina!!!! I guess it's true some corp's just are born to be alliance bound. Add: Nice job to aniulius (or wtf ever) beating his chest on our private forums. Now, if he could only step out of the complex he's stuck in. Maybe he should petition CCP for a 'Stuck'. Maybe it would be more successful than his quit post after he fell alseep nd lost his CNR.
shivan	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:18:00 - [203] Originally by: Kate Moss Originally by: Liet Traep Originally by: unforg1ven Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56 Victim: The Five Location: Catch Time: 22:20:00 Date: 15/10/2005 Destroyed Tipe: Alliance Security Status: 0.0 Involved parties: Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow) Security Status: 5.0 Name: The Phoenix Alliance Security Status: 5.0 Name: The Forsaken Empire Security Status: 5.0 Name: NBSI Alliance Security Status: 5.0 Name: The Rest of our Friends Thanks for the mention RA and RAT. But we didn't have really much to do with it. this is a clear victory for you you guys and Copia War Rages. Congrats on your hard won victory. I think you should see who actually made the post you quoted. Neither [5] nor RA can be found in this thread. Rather, the unimportant people coming in and beating their chests. You don't have to like [5], or RA to see that much. GG embarassing yoursleves. arn't you in rehab or something?
Plague Rexus	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:45:00 - [204] We lub you ATUK, people just wanted to find a way to make you visit the rest of us more
Jonkai	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:57:00 - [205] Good work RA :)
Coeleth	Posted - 2005.10.16 08:58:00 - [206] Originally by: Top Dog Does this announcement mean that I can mine in Cache if I get in contact with the new holders (NBSI/FE etc?) and what will it cost me. I think you'll find the "new" holders would be Red Alliance, who were in fact the original holders before naughty Five people invaded it.
j0rz	Posted - 2005.10.16 09:04:00 - [207] All i can say is well done to both sides, a war fought with honour. Good luck RA with curse Such is Life
Christopher Multsanti	Posted - 2005.10.16 09:20:00 - [208] Its funny to see some people in this thread say because "the north" has apparently claimed victory we better watch out because 5 will be coming for us now. I think itÆs pretty apparent that 5 didn't like the north anyway and it would be their first target. As for the flaming in this thread, what did people expect? 5 do their fare share of flaming and general arrogance on the forums and weren't much liked by their enemy's, you reap what you so. I am sure NBSI would receive the same treatment from the people in this game that don't like us if our space was lost. But on to the real point, putting up POS's, and taking them down, is not fun, station ping-pong is not fun. PVP'ers want to fight and fight and fight, it seems 5 were not getting what they want and want go back to having fun. I am sure when you do come north, you will have fun and we will have fun. Surely thatÆs what this game is about right? GL 5. Thorax FTW!
Kantar	Posted - 2005.10.16 09:23:00 - [209] Me Casa e`tua Casa [5]. Congr RA enjoy, but I think you just awaken the Lion, now is out and looking for flesh and blood, so I think is only the starter of the war, now that [5] dont need to defend anymore they will attack anything and everything.
HC MasiEEE	Posted - 2005.10.16 09:27:00 - [210] Just had too post here ____________ HC MasiEEE

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