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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 15/10/2005 22:20:51
Free at last! Free at last! Thank CCP Almighty, we are free at last!
After the destruction of countless POS and the continuous retaking of player controlled stations, The [5] will cease current travels on this road to universal industrialization.
The current climate created by CCP is unsuitable for us. The rewards constantly bestowed upon forces bent against armed conflict within the richest areas of EVE have forced us to choose our new destiny.
Some people may say ôevolve or die.ö My response to them is that The [5] have been on the edge of most major evolutions in this game. What we have available to us today will not evolve us into a better corporation, a better alliance, or even evolve the game in a beneficial direction. We have a mutation on our hands; of which has no worthwhile outcome.
This, of course, is not the first time that evolution has been hampered by mutations; let us not forget such disasters as solo level 4 agent running or worse, dual MWD ravens. The [5] fully believe that this is another case of evolution gone wrong and we expect a cure for this madness to become apparent in the near future.
As for us; the path to true enlightenment is calling the combat pilots of [5]. We shall continue on our journey to nirvana with greater understandings of the madness left behind.
To RA and rat: Salutations on your diverse area of expertise. We overestimated your pvp ability and underestimated your ability to mine and haul for your POS. We also didnÆt take into account the massive amount of alt corps under our noses. You played a well executed, boring game and we applaud you whole heartedly. But donÆt ever think we are gone from these regions. I can promise you that you will never have more than a dayÆs peace from our forces. We will gleefully make each of you reach for the X at the top right of your screen every day.
To the people really behind our new direction: CCP, we would like to congratulate you on completely going against your belief of a game based on the basic principles of player versus player combat. We have been defeated by the inability to defeat POS. A 25 million isk POS rightly set up can defeat 3 billion worth of ships for two to three hours. LetÆs not forget that normally we face anywhere in the region of 8-16 of these on a good night by RA.
Hey ho, we accept the cards dealt to us in this situation and will move on.
To the rest of EVE: We have learnt a lot of lessons from this situation. We have become even tougher in our resolve to hurt your alliances. We have gained the virtue of patience: probably our greatest asset.
But the biggest laugh has got to be on you guys. When you were posting here ôomg yay RA for the win kick [5] out e.t.cö ù wtf did you think we were going to do after we were done defending our space? Duh à
Lock up your miners and lock up your pvp forces because to be honest they donÆt stand a chance. We will be returning to our roots: death, destruction, and the relentless abuse of your corpses.
Watch out EVE; [5] doesnÆt have a home, so we wonÆt be running back to defend anything. You can send a force of frigs to Curse, but guess what? You wonÆt find our members living there. We will, however, be using your stations when we need to mine and your haulers when we need to dine.
RA: we will be back with some new toys and tricks to show you whoÆs boss, all the while putting EVE back on track to the game it should be- determined by the [5] not ccp.
Thanks, youÆve been great.
Have a wonderful night,
Stan
[5] Commander
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..and RA, youÆre lucky you made it onto the list of people I respect; the rest of EVE isnÆt so lucky]
The Gloves are off and the pos crap is over so be ready to take some blows!
P.S this post is dedicate to the muppets in nbsi and pa that will probably think their actions tonight has something to do with this. RA have know we are doing this for a while.
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
HUNTING RUSSIANS ONE SAFESPOT AT A TIME |
Velax
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Velax on 15/10/2005 22:25:56
:)
edit; omg first?
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:24:00 -
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GL to [5] in their future endeavours.
 Originally by: Berneh
You will never take me aliv coppers 
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Jungle Jim
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:24:00 -
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*** Proud First Time Winner of the MLM Muppet Award *** |
dimensionZ
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:25:00 -
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GL
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OVERCOPES 1
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:25:00 -
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Can i nick your stuff?
T2 shuttles have been released, they're called Ares and Raptor.-Vathar.
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APOC UK
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:26:00 -
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To be fair. what ccp have done is a good thing its simply saying to everyone that no true empire can live without a good industry backing it.
RA are committed players and have an excelent industry therefore they are very difficult to break down.
Kudos to both sides
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:26:00 -
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lol you want a tissue?
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:26:00 -
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so RA won?
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 15/10/2005 22:28:47
btw 5 wont be replying to this thread
we have stated the facts and thats the end of it
my 2 alts
ladari
stan hyd for the guy below
STAN
FACTA NON VERBA
HUNTING RUSSIANS ONE SAFESPOT AT A TIME |
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
btw 5 wont be replying to this thread
we have stated the facts and thats the end of it
I give this thread 2 pages before your superalt is coming
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benwallace
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:29:00 -
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nice seems 5 notice pos are boaring as hell gl stan and 5 and go kill some
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:29:00 -
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I have a miner II and a bestower with your name on it, Stan.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:29:00 -
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p - l - u - r |
GodWin cadela
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:30:00 -
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so giving up and blaming ccp.....hmm sure why not if that makes you happy i guess thats ok.
good luck in the future
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Imran
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:31:00 -
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Best banner evar.
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 15/10/2005 22:33:12
Edited by: slothe on 15/10/2005 22:31:04
1st? , beh 2nd? bleh 15th or summat.
basically the essence of this thread is, guns are nothing without industrial base / an alliance needs a good mix of corps, try and try again, its nice to have good friends...
or summat.
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:32:00 -
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good luck in your future endeavours.
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zarc
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:33:00 -
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rofl!!
So i cant buy a mining pass no more
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:34:00 -
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I have been asked to comment in this thread by the "muppets" of NBSI, in regards to this blatently unprovoked verbal attack against these fragile individuals.
We have despatched teams of docters with the correct drugs to help the brave NBSI warriers overcome this traumatic situation, we can only hope that they can overcome this setback, and get on with their lives.
Cartiff, CEO
Euphoria Released
NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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shooting dutchman
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:34:00 -
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I can understand it for a bit, but the problems faced by 5ive also has something to do with the amount regions the 5ive has.
anywayz goodluck on our next adventure.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: Edoo on 15/10/2005 22:38:13
CBAd
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Mat rix
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:35:00 -
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it had to happen, you have been overstretched for a while.
GL (ok not to much)
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Kuang
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:36:00 -
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GL and have fun in your future endeavors 5 ... also well played by RA .... guess 5 can be beaten
If you want to control an area takes more then just killing ... CCP did a good move and helps established alliances to control there space or the more dedicated
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s1mon4
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:36:00 -
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so .. [5] is going now in empire to learn how to mine ICE ???
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Caanan
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:37:00 -
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GL to [5], hope you guys have fun
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Edoo
I think you mean FE rather than NBSI...
Yep agreed, We weren't even down there tonight, it was all FE and PA.
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Kickass
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:38:00 -
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Nice job RA.
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Chi Prime
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:39:00 -
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Good luck in the future, guys.
(And I rather like what CCP has done with the required pvp/industry balance.)
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:39:00 -
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unforg1ven
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:40:00 -
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muppets show now in detroit,scalding pass ..... tbh i think that 5 will be another BoB...
ps: this is my own opinion
ROMANIA |
Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:40:00 -
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gratz you have realised you only need one region for a base...have fun
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Captain Tinrib
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:41:00 -
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played
Kills |
Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:42:00 -
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Well done Red Alliance on the total and complete victory.
You really showed 5 how much better organised and effective you are.
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thedragoon
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: thedragoon on 15/10/2005 22:45:01
The real reason for five moving out is that last night 8 BE battleships placed themselves ready to start striking at 5 there scouts seeing this activity reported back to 5 command.
And they decided it was best to take their miner II that were working overtime in systems we scouted last night with alts and move out...
Shame you could not face up to what was coming 5 have fun carebearing in empire
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Well done Red Alliance on the total and complete victory.
You really showed 5 how much better organised and effective you are.
Just, lol? You think that's a complete victory? Really?
Wow.
I didn't think even you could make that leap of imagination, Shin, but sheesh, I guess wonders will never cease.
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CLEISTHENES2
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:45:00 -
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GL [5] and all the best in the future
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Espen
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:45:00 -
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o/
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zarc
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Shin Ra
Well done Red Alliance on the total and complete victory.
You really showed 5 how much better organised and effective you are.
Just, lol? You think that's a complete victory? Really?
Wow.
I didn't think even you could make that leap of imagination, Shin, but sheesh, I guess wonders will never cease.
*cough* fanboi *cough*
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Shin Ra
Well done Red Alliance on the total and complete victory.
You really showed 5 how much better organised and effective you are.
Just, lol? You think that's a complete victory? Really?
Wow.
I didn't think even you could make that leap of imagination, Shin, but sheesh, I guess wonders will never cease.
5 said they would remove RA from that area.
They failed and RA took all the old CA space.
5 say there will be no more attempts to take stations.
I'd say that qualifies as a victory.
RA was clearly more effective and better organised for this task than 5 were.
Hence my statement is correct.
I didn't say they killed 5 or anything like that.
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Captain Tinrib
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:49:00 -
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Is it true your called the '5' because thats your average mental age?
Kills |
threeD
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:50:00 -
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I think its sad 5 are giving up on the regions Stain fought so long to remove Curse from tbh.
Congratz RA
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Joycalyn
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:52:00 -
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I would like to personally thank LadyScarlet for blowing CWRA off and allowing us the opportunity to join with some of the most excellent forces of EvE: Red Alliance.  Some of the most fun is only understanding half of teamspeak..Russian, english, Russian..whatever "don't speak russian F1, F2, F3.."
Their resolve is untouchable. Their dedication to spend 18+ hrs in Fleet battles to turn the tides of war. An endless supply of POS's. All these qualities make them one of the most fitting groups to occupy zero.
Copia-WarRages has had an excellent time flying with Red Alliance and now the relationship has blossomed. We will strive to continue our operations with RA to secure all of their newly aquired territories.
There's a new beast in the east.
NO PASSPORT FOR YOU! 
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Bayroo
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:53:00 -
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oh well never mind. I have some food tokens and tents I can give you!!! It's not much, but I don't mind helping the homeless.
Well done RA PA and FE
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:53:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Hence my statement is correct.
There are plenty of historical precedents to realising a strategy isn't working and changing it, Shin, in RL and in EVE. I think you'll find that once CCP balance pos's and dreads you'll see [5] back at ra's throats, don't you?
A complete victory would of resulted in [5 disbandings, they haven't. To be honest I think this is gonna cause far more problems to people that are in no way even comparable to RA in terms of organisation, and they certainly won't have the biggest advantage that RA had, of timezones.
Hell, now you've got a good 100+ pvp'ers with no defensive responsibilities, that means they're gonna attack, it won't be BoB they hit, will it?
What [5] have done is change their gaming style to fit the way they want to fight, they don't want to fight POS wars, at least they've got the balls to change the way they fight, how many other groups in this game can say that?
Less than I've got fingers.
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Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:55:00 -
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So finaly 5 surrendered to RA. Good job guys!
Maybe 5 will return to fight till the last BS ...err industrial.
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High Sierra
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:55:00 -
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what goes around comes around
if you had worked harder at protecting those people you were using for an income i.e. your sponsored corps and alliances this would have never happened.
you tried to hold us all to ransom. you failed. nuff said really
flame away cos I just dont care.
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: slothe on 15/10/2005 22:56:47
Originally by: CLEISTHENES2
GL [5] and all the best in the future
skilltraining complete - brownnosing to lvl5
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Cal5
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
A complete victory would of resulted in [5 disbandings, they haven't.
So, BoB didnt achieve victory over Fountain Alliance then? |
patch
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:58:00 -
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gl, and have fun, thats what we are all here for
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cal5
Originally by: Dianabolic
A complete victory would of resulted in [5 disbandings, they haven't.
So, BoB didnt achieve victory over Fountain Alliance then?
Complete victory isn't possible in EVE, I thought this had already been agreed?
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slip66
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Posted - 2005.10.15 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: APOC UK
To be fair. what ccp have done is a good thing its simply saying to everyone that no true empire can live without a good industry backing it.
RA are committed players and have an excelent industry therefore they are very difficult to break down.
Kudos to both sides
are you that blind? It takes hardly any "industry" to do what RA did. Most of the 5 corps have more "industry" then you can even think of.
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Espen
o/
couldnt have said it betetr meself :)
hows thee espen?
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The Reporter
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: The Reporter on 15/10/2005 23:11:23
Originally by: Nafri
so RA won?
You bet your Sweet Pink Panties they did.
They have been decimating 5 Forces quietly for the past 2 months and 5 cant hold Curse region anymore.gn
This is just a Fancy way of letting the word out
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ElricUK
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:12:00 -
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If 'Complete victory' isn't possible in EVE (in your eyes), doesnt it make sense to adjust the definition to something that is possible in relation to eve so that the term can actually be used? I would say that RA have achieved it here (from the sounds of things). But it certainly doesnt mean that [5] wont be back.
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Arevar
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:16:00 -
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Quote:
A 25 million isk POS rightly set up can defeat 3 billion worth of ships for two to three hours.
3000/25 = 12000%
Seems Russians are better at maths than CCP :)
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Flottekommandant
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:16:00 -
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I'd say they both won in their own terms - RA won the "war" techically, but [5] won freedom, and I am sure it will make them even more deadly a lot of alliances will have to watch their back... But then again [5] has shown a low attention span.
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:17:00 -
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[5] are moveing out of there space yes this is a victory for RA no denieing that but "complete" would tht not be the total collapse of the [5]? Thats not whats happend. So yes congrats RA ure some tought mother ******* :) but lets not exaggerate mmkay?
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Woad Raider
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cal5
Originally by: Dianabolic
A complete victory would of resulted in [5 disbandings, they haven't.
So, BoB didnt achieve victory over Fountain Alliance then?
Complete victory isn't possible in EVE, I thought this had already been agreed?
Very true! However when one has had its space taken from like lets say Fountain did, They were classified as dead. So it would seem the same situation has taken place here. I.E 5 have lost its space so they are now effectivley a dead alliance!
GG RA
GL 5 for future.
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Tinrib
Is it true your called the '5' because thats your average mental age?
LoL here are the Lame Insult Brigade, why all the abuse.
Looks like some ppl are getting itchy feet and also triggers, wonder if your on the list, your smack makes you look not only like a 5 year old but also a nervous 5 year old.
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Nick Curso
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:21:00 -
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Alts alts everywere \o/
u may also notics FA didnt just loose there space they laost neally all of there membership aswell.
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Kleric
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:22:00 -
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I have no doubt in my mind that if POS's would be easier to take down RED/RAT would have lost this war long time ago.
GL in your future endevoirs(spelling?)
99% of what i post is bull**** and in no way represent my corp or alliance |
Bazman
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:24:00 -
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CCP can keep their vision of POS warfare for the future. I'm paying for fun.
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Tr4XX
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:27:00 -
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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 15/10/2005 22:28:47
btw 5 wont be replying to this thread
Originally by: Bazman
CCP can keep their vision of POS warfare for the future. I'm paying for fun.
now what? im confuxelled...
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Haggislander
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Tinrib
Is it true your called the '5' because thats your average mental age?
With all the other smack and such in this thread, yours takes the prize.
GG on embarassing your corp. and alliance.
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Cadman Weyland
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Agil Scout
Originally by: Captain Tinrib
Is it true your called the '5' because thats your average mental age?
LoL here are the Lame Insult Brigade, why all the abuse.
Looks like some ppl are getting itchy feet and also triggers, wonder if your on the list, your smack makes you look not only like a 5 year old but also a nervous 5 year old.
I dunno mate, i was playing footie with my 5 year old this morning. Me and him vs 3 of his mates. We were losing. He threw a tantrum, it was his ball, his game, he didnt like losing so he wasnt going to play no more, that or he wanted the rules changed. Wasnt his fault he`d been beat, everyone else but him was to blame.
Baby throws toys out of the pram.
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:29:00 -
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I wont say much stan but you know the type of fighting you play every day isnÆt fun.. but its the only way RA can stand a fighting chance...
shooting stations/pos is hard and allot of effort, i may not of been doing it for as long as you but i do understand how hard it is to try and win vs a enemy that doesnÆt see opportunity to strike and make it interesting.. zeal told you long ago they wouldnÆt give up he was right.
Your corp is now huge in eve you could make a huge gang.. but 10 dedicated is worth more than 100 bs fleet for 1 night.
/me goes back to drinking Водочка YAARRR
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feroci0us
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:30:00 -
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benwallace stole my sig picture;-x *tear*
** Proud Member of the Fountain Alliance **
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APOC UK
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:33:00 -
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I have to point out guys that the 5 were putting up countless pos's and ra were killing them, so to sit there and say that if pos's were easier to take down that the 5 would have won is not entirely true now is it?
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:34:00 -
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Well. RAT. will move to the Curse region, so we can continue fighting. Promise us, that you wouldnt outnumber us greatly :)
btw, Thol owe me a RAT. vs ATUK fight. Most dedicated vs Most dedicated - keep tuned
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Princess Aspire
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:34:00 -
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what is [5]? first time i have heard of this 5 dont realy know what u are talking about nice post thought lots of words and then more words and yet.. more words good luck though lots of love
-Princess
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cal5
So, BoB didnt achieve victory over Fountain Alliance then?
Maybe not, but FA is still posting with alts from empire :P
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: Flottekommandant
I'd say they both won in their own terms - RA won the "war" techically, but [5] won freedom, and I am sure it will make them even more deadly a lot of alliances will have to watch their back... But then again [5] has shown a low attention span.
I wasn't aware "defeat" and "freedom" were synonyms.
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Cal5
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:37:00 -
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Originally by: Luc Boye
Maybe not, but FA is still posting with alts from empire :P
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:39:00 -
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Originally by: APOC UK
To be fair. what ccp have done is a good thing its simply saying to everyone that no true empire can live without a good industry backing it.
RA are committed players and have an excelent industry therefore they are very difficult to break down.
Kudos to both sides
APOC UK, I've seen what u've done. I've seen how you are.
Your alliance failed you. You alliance disbanded. But you fought. You tried to stand againt overwhelming forces knowing you didn't have a chance.
THIS is also your victory. The sacrifices you did will never be forgotten by me. I know which role you played. And I'll never forget it
You've been a part of the resistance. Thank you  And I hope some people will remember your sacrifice in this war from the beginning.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Darknesss
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:41:00 -
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all things must come to an end.
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
A complete victory would of resulted in [5 disbandings, they haven't. To be honest I think this is gonna cause far more problems to people that are in no way even comparable to RA in terms of organisation, and they certainly won't have the biggest advantage that RA had, of timezones.
RA goal was to defend their space.
They did this and then some. Sure smells like vistory, looks like voctory... hell, it just damn might be victory!
Originally by: Dianabolic
What [5] have done is change their gaming style to fit the way they want to fight, they don't want to fight POS wars, at least they've got the balls to change the way they fight, how many other groups in this game can say that?
Its funny, when other alliances do this, BOB claims victory.
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GangMe
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:46:00 -
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5 blame ccp........... in other words cry us a river you have now given everyone in eve a way to beat you
we will all play the pos war if you turn up, and then you'll come crying to the forums again
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Flottekommandant
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:48:00 -
[79]
Originally by: GangMe
5 blame ccp........... in other words cry us a river you have now given everyone in eve a way to beat you
we will all play the pos war if you turn up, and then you'll come crying to the forums again
Well done RA you win
What good wil a POS war be on a nomadic attacking alliance as this post suggests? no good.
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Malak V
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:48:00 -
[80]
I dont know what is better if having no region and be ok or having region and got f**ing huge [5] forces in next system to gank you lol.
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:48:00 -
[81]
GL to all of 5 u gonna have alot fun i am sure
Originally by: Eris Discordia
As a minmatar I have to say the only good Amarr is a dead Amarr
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:49:00 -
[82]
Its funny how peaceful this thread is with no bob or 5 flaming.
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Zarks
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:49:00 -
[83]
Well, that wasn¦t really surprising. You don¦t wanna mess with those mad russians.
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BOPOBKA
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:52:00 -
[84]
Chronology:
RAT. official statement.
[5] Move to Clean Curse Space and Outlying areas
The Five vs Red Alliance (RUS and CO)
[5] Announce End of RA presence in [5] Space.
Tenerifis
JV1V=0...
[5] Announces New Passport System
Red Alliance [RA] declares war on The Five [.5.]?
Immensea - [RAT] statement.
Immensea, Five vs RA / RAT.
DETORID
A Spoon full of Pos helps the [5] get down
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:52:00 -
[85]
Originally by: w0rmyRA goal was to defend their space.
[/quote
And in doing so they achieved their goal. I'm sorry, is there a problem with comprehending what the OP said? I'm sure he acknowledged that RA had been successful in keeping the stations and that [5] no longer wish to engage in POS wars. But wait, [5] are still there AND with more numbers, I'm still not seeing any "complete" victory here. You DO know the difference between a "war" and a "battle", right?
Originally by: w0rmy
Its funny, when other alliances do this, BOB claims victory.
When they are no longer to be found in the space they are supposed to "claim", you're damn right we do.
/me looks at the map > yep, [5] are still around and with numbers, it ain't looking like anything other than the OP said it was now is it, w0rmy?
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Chows Flamealt
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:54:00 -
[86]
So many haters are clocking our figures
So many haters don't like us rakin papers
But all we did was bring pvp through
From the pos war straight to you
Used to wanna screw and bawl
Now they wanna join the crew
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Malak V
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:56:00 -
[87]
Don't speak english. anchor, anchor, anchor...
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slothe
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Posted - 2005.10.15 23:59:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Malak V
Don't speak english. anchor, anchor, anchor...
erm, thats about the size of it lol
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Lord Gunstar
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:01:00 -
[89]
Now when [5] is on a away campaign, the enemy cant send their forces to 5's 'conquerabled stations', to make [5] return and babysit stations. they would have to stay and fight.
This is really a good move for a alliance that just simply wants to PVP, and has no interest in fighting a pos war, which consists of hauling abundances of fuel and pos equipment, and shooting stations, and shooting pos'es.
PVP > PVE
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Coeleth
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:02:00 -
[90]
Of course the reality of the POS war is that the 5, specifically Shinra and MCorp, put up far more POS than RA ever did, RA just blew them up day after day.
Congratulations Red Alliance. Two months ago, the Five invaded your space, as they'd invaded others before. You were the only alliance who didn't roll over and die and all that hard work and resolve has paid off.
Oh and I have to note that Red Alliance have, on average, the most fierce pilots I have ever encountered.
A thank you to the forces of FE and PA who showed up at the last and accelerated the victory.
And to the Five, specifically Shinra. I feel badly for you guys, the pressure was all on you and M Corp for far too long. Well fought. Perhaps had the internal structure and overall modus operandi of your Alliance been a little more enlightened, you wouldn't all be blobbing in N-Rael and trying to get out of 0.0 space at this very moment.
Long Live EvE!
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:05:00 -
[91]
/me flames 5
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Malak V
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:05:00 -
[92]
would be interesting number how many POS were built and destroyed on both sides.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:06:00 -
[93]
Originally by: DrunkenOne
/me flames 5
omfg flaimbait!1
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:10:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 16/10/2005 00:11:19
Originally by: The Reporter
Edited by: The Reporter on 15/10/2005 23:11:23
Originally by: Nafri
so RA won?
You bet your Sweet Pink Panties they did.
They have been decimating 5 Forces quietly for the past 2 months and 5 cant hold Curse region anymore.gn
This is just a Fancy way of letting the word out
Had a good laugh. If I understood the anouncement right, they just state that they are giving up the fight to gain soverenity because they can't win this pos war.
Instead of trying that they concentrate on what they can do: Visit the enemies and just kill everyone.
Ok, I slept until now and just woke up. Maybe I got that wrong and that's just what how I wanted to understand it.
But I think this method of inofficially claiming soverenity by killing all enemies there really works better in the long term. And I'm quite sure that you can hurt another alliance, if you have the pvp'ers to do so and build up a constant pressure. (And it's more fun )
Ok, maybe I got that wrong, but I think I have read that they stop wasting their time with poses and are following the path of destruction from now on, right ? Have fun ...
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Hugo Kaviene
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:11:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Hugo Kaviene on 16/10/2005 00:12:00
Copia-WarRages Armaments would like to thank both RA and .5. for an incredible opportunity to get us involved in this conflict.
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Dafuzz
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:13:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Dafuzz on 16/10/2005 00:14:03
Originally by: Snake Jankins
Had a good laugh. If I understood the anouncement right, they just state that they are giving up the fight to gain soverenity because they can't win this pos war.
I wouldn't say "can't win" the POS war, I would say "don't want to".
Best wishes [5].
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Evil Edna
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:14:00 -
[97]
well that was too be expected really
POS wars are kinda lame, but its all part of the game and while that feature is there people are going to use it.
its not really any more lame than mass blob wars, mass logon/logoffs in systems ect that other alliances do
gg to RA
Killboard.co.uk |
benwallace
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:24:00 -
[98]
Originally by: DrunkenOne
/me flames 5
log in
btw kilrock made my sig so he stole it :D
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w0rmy
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:29:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Dianabolic
When they are no longer to be found in the space they are supposed to "claim", you're damn right we do.
Since when did you start waiting till then?
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zwer
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:31:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Malak V
Don't speak english. anchor, anchor, anchor...
roflmao most true post in this thread
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:37:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Evil Edna
well that was too be expected really
POS wars are kinda lame, but its all part of the game and while that feature is there people are going to use it.
its not really any more lame than mass blob wars, mass logon/logoffs in systems ect that alliances do
gg to RA
Corrected.
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unforg1ven
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:40:00 -
[102]
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
ROMANIA |
Kelene
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:51:00 -
[103]
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Involved parties:
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
Lmao at the clueless
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:54:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Snake Jankins
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 16/10/2005 00:11:19
Originally by: The Reporter
Edited by: The Reporter on 15/10/2005 23:11:23
Originally by: Nafri
so RA won?
You bet your Sweet Pink Panties they did.
They have been decimating 5 Forces quietly for the past 2 months and 5 cant hold Curse region anymore.gn
This is just a Fancy way of letting the word out
Had a good laugh. If I understood the anouncement right, they just state that they are giving up the fight to gain soverenity because they can't win this pos war.
Instead of trying that they concentrate on what they can do: Visit the enemies and just kill everyone.
Ok, I slept until now and just woke up. Maybe I got that wrong and that's just what how I wanted to understand it.
But I think this method of inofficially claiming soverenity by killing all enemies there really works better in the long term. And I'm quite sure that you can hurt another alliance, if you have the pvp'ers to do so and build up a constant pressure. (And it's more fun )
Ok, maybe I got that wrong, but I think I have read that they stop wasting their time with poses and are following the path of destruction from now on, right ? Have fun ...
Thats what all defeated alliance told, nothing different to SE statement
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:54:00 -
[105]
But will be interesting what will happen to ASCN, since one of their shields is gone
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Pablito
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Posted - 2005.10.16 00:56:00 -
[106]
THERE ARE NO AMERICAN TROOPS IN BAGHDAD! |
shangdi
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:01:00 -
[107]
ting,s that fly high fall down fast 5 fall over there own hehe eve is so much fun and ra good job keps thing,s rolling
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Will Fireblade
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:05:00 -
[108]
Muppets.
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gifa'oishfpaf
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:10:00 -
[109]
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
I know there are a lot of things worth saving here, including this gem.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:11:00 -
[110]
This thread is hilarious, so many people so quick to enjoy their moment of 'perceived' victory over [5]. So many people obviously clueless about how POS wars currently work and how Dreadnaughts currently work.
I'll enjoy re-reading this thread in a couple of months time when Dreads have been balanced properly and the currently gimped soveriegnty system has been fixed.
I foresee a lot of humble pie being eaten.
Personally I hope [5] go and rub some of the crowing retards noses in it over the next couple of months until this POS and Dread mess has been sorted out.
Until then kudos to RA and respect to [5].
Eve Blacklight Style
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:11:00 -
[111]
Edited by: pershphanie on 16/10/2005 01:19:00
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
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The Monitor
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:26:00 -
[112]
What a truely delecious thread. Somehow I must have missed RA smalktalking on this thread. I do see a lot of Forskin empire, pa and nbys on here crowing as if they did something. I'm sure most can see the humor in this as you are the already known as the biggest mouths with littlest bite in eve.
Salute yourselfs a bit more
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Lazarix
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:30:00 -
[113]
This has to be the most boring war i've ever been involved in.
The only thing that RA have mastered in this long fight was the "Logoffski" maneuver.
Respect to [5], ATUK, M and SNRA are the best corps' i've worked with in eve. when we're together, we totally pwn RA. in an all out battle, [5] would win. In a game of "who can get sovereignty of a system" RA win cause of their froggy mining corps fueling the pos's.
F1, F2, F3... 4tw.
2005.10.01 01:52:48 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Minmatar Control Tower Small [UAI]<RED>, wrecking for 627.9 damage.
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David Goodwill
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:31:00 -
[114]
Tbh the biggest shock for me is the total lack of 5 posts in this thread, it is something that we may never see again in a single thread, EVAR... saviour it! ;)
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:31:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Kirlana Rikogo
How can you possibly believe the Phoenix Alliance, the Forsaken Empire and NBSI had anything to do with the situation in Cache, you didn't arrive in the region until after this post was made.
While I don't mean to overstate F-E's part in this, that's not exactly true.
Original Thread Posted - 2005.10.15 22:20:00
2005.10.15 05:31:00
Solar System: 28Y9-P
Conquered Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Conquering Corporation: Everlasting Vendetta
Conquering Character: Ras Blumin
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Evil Thug
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:34:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Evil Thug on 16/10/2005 01:35:12
Originally by: Lazarix
The only thing that RA have mastered in this long fight was the "Logoffski" maneuver.
I can take it from SOME of 5ive members, who actually put a fight. But not from meatshield n00b. Go away, and learn your corpmates how to proper fit battleship - basic cargoexpanders in low on battle typhoon is bad, mmkay ?
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Dust to Dust |
Flottekommandant
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:35:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Mystiel Raleigh
Originally by: Kirlana Rikogo
How can you possibly believe the Phoenix Alliance, the Forsaken Empire and NBSI had anything to do with the situation in Cache, you didn't arrive in the region until after this post was made.
While I don't mean to overstate F-E's part in this, that's not exactly true.
Original Thread Posted - 2005.10.15 22:20:00
2005.10.15 05:31:00
Solar System: 28Y9-P
Conquered Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Conquering Corporation: Everlasting Vendetta
Conquering Character: Ras Blumin
YaY F-E - Took 1 station 4 months into a war!!!! Well if EW gets you on the mail that does, barely. 
BTW I am not a 5 alt I am agreeing RA won this war, F-E PA et al did not.
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joint man
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:35:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Mystiel Raleigh
Originally by: Kirlana Rikogo
How can you possibly believe the Phoenix Alliance, the Forsaken Empire and NBSI had anything to do with the situation in Cache, you didn't arrive in the region until after this post was made.
While I don't mean to overstate F-E's part in this, that's not exactly true.
Original Thread Posted - 2005.10.15 22:20:00
2005.10.15 05:31:00
Solar System: 28Y9-P
Conquered Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Conquering Corporation: Everlasting Vendetta
Conquering Character: Ras Blumin
OMFG i dont know what els to say you are a sad lil boy |
Kirlana Rikogo
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:35:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Mystiel Raleigh
Originally by: Kirlana Rikogo
How can you possibly believe the Phoenix Alliance, the Forsaken Empire and NBSI had anything to do with the situation in Cache, you didn't arrive in the region until after this post was made.
While I don't mean to overstate F-E's part in this, that's not exactly true.
Original Thread Posted - 2005.10.15 22:20:00
2005.10.15 05:31:00
Solar System: 28Y9-P
Conquered Corporation: Arcane Technologies
Conquering Corporation: Everlasting Vendetta
Conquering Character: Ras Blumin
28Y is in Scalding Pass, 20 jumps from the system you are currently in.
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Naphtalia
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:36:00 -
[120]
*cough* *cough*
Props to Red Alliance for understanding how the 0.0 region game works now, you did the work.. F-E was never (really) involved in this and shouldn't want to take credit.
Good luck to the alliance(s) that the roaming .5. is going to put their teeth in.. and lets stop backstabbing eachother and come to eachothers aid. Instead of waiting who is next.
Move along now, nothing to see..
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:38:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Lazarix
This has to be the most boring war i've ever been involved in.
The only thing that RA have mastered in this long fight was the "Logoffski" maneuver.
Respect to [5], ATUK, M and SNRA are the best corps' i've worked with in eve. when we're together, we totally pwn RA. in an all out battle, [5] would win. In a game of "who can get sovereignty of a system" RA win cause of their froggy mining corps fueling the pos's.
F1, F2, F3... 4tw.
2005.10.01 01:52:48 combat Your 1400mm Howitzer Artillery I perfectly strikes Minmatar Control Tower Small [UAI]<RED>, wrecking for 627.9 damage.
As he said in his original post war is not just about the fights. Five have too many aress that are under constant attack with the numbers of industry people available. I feel that five stepping away from curse (which i'm sure will happen soon, it'll be fun to see who gets it), I feel that a few alliances are going to be blinded and stung by their own arrogance because you failed to keep controll of some space, which is not how the game works. I hope to see this happening soon, i'll be watching
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Paladineguru
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:40:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Pablito
THERE ARE NO AMERICAN TROOPS IN BAGHDAD!
Pablito gets my vote for BEST POST EVER
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:44:00 -
[123]
to the ppl making fun of RA for logging off:
seriously 5 does it plenty too...
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DaHeaVYFo
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:45:00 -
[124]
It's about the only time, and the last time i'm gonna have to agree with [5]. It sucks to lose lawless space in a industrial way. POS's= teh suck.
We'll be hearing from you sooner or later I suspect.
My Latest video: [The -V- Conflict] |
Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:49:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Flottekommandant
YaY F-E - Took 1 station 4 months into a war!!!! Well if EW gets you on the mail that does, barely.
BTW I am not a 5 alt I am agreeing RA won this war, F-E PA et al did not.
Nowhere did I say that F-E won this war. Re-read my post. Literacy is a wonderful thing.
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Flottekommandant
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:52:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Mystiel Raleigh
Originally by: Flottekommandant
YaY F-E - Took 1 station 4 months into a war!!!! Well if EW gets you on the mail that does, barely.
BTW I am not a 5 alt I am agreeing RA won this war, F-E PA et al did not.
Nowhere did I say that F-E won this war. Re-read my post. Literacy is a wonderful thing.
Your comrades did, yours was the nearest post to quote, it's like the last time u came with 100 took 1 station and claimed victory (while running away) You came again to 5 space for 1 day happens to be today and cliam victory crazy  - And again GJ to RA, people doubted you from the old CA saying you lost it, you haven't!
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:56:00 -
[127]
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 16/10/2005 01:56:03
Originally by: Nafri
Thats what all defeated alliance told, nothing different to SE statement
Well, I'm clueless, what's going on. I'm not a 'The 5' member, just a friend. I'm now camped with one of my chars by some peeps in Cache.
But there is quite some difference between being camped in Cache and being finally defeated. We are a lot of friends in Curse, not only [5] itself. And I'm quite sure that most are willing to fight, because most are not just sposored mining/trading corps. Just a matter of organization.
So now is the time of the leaders to talk and see what can be done. I'm sure in the evening we'll know more. This night won't happen a lot I guess, most people are in bed already. Guess I'll do the same... or better look for a beer
'What I write usually only refects my own opinions, not the ones of my corp.' |
fl0pski
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Posted - 2005.10.16 01:58:00 -
[128]
watching atuk moan on the forums about game mechanics is truely priceless.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:00:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 16/10/2005 02:08:07
Well this is one hell of an announcement, I expect the ripple effects of which shall be felt across all regions in EVE.
POS wars must have sucked something rotten, for [5] to take such a big step. RA's rock solid determination seems to have paid off.
A gl to [5] seems to be in order, hope you find what you are looking for.
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Jack Cade
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:03:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Jack Cade on 16/10/2005 02:03:50
POS suck.
CCP pls fix dreads k thx.
GL 5. |
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Laythun
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:12:00 -
[131]
GL [5] give em hell
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Creamster
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:13:00 -
[132]
I bet ruskies will get drunk tonight
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2005.09.04:"After the 7 days SE corporations will be removed from the said regions" (Q)
XB killboard |
Top Dog
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:15:00 -
[133]
I am relatively new to 0.0, but POS wars seem a bit rubbish tbh. I am all for involving industrial corps more in 0.0, as the pendulum had swung too far away from them, but I think that the risk/return of using POS's to get sovereignty is too far in the defenders favour
If any old Tom **** or Harry can deploy as many as they like and then the attacker takes a huge amount of time and cost to remove them it seems a bit unfair, but like all things it will get tweaked I suppose
Does this announcement mean that I can mine in Cache if I get in contact with the new holders (NBSI/FE etc?) and what will it cost me.
So far in this game I have paid FA, BOB, SHINRA to mine, so paying these new peeps won't be any different
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Kalitah
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:20:00 -
[134]
Im surprised you could come up with such a post stan, kudos for you!
Also i find it ironic, most of the time you guys fight/blob you whine about balls. Most of the times an alliance goes down one of you claims (partial)victory and when you are going down yourself you blaim ccp. Thank you for clearing up things. |
Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:20:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Malak V
Don't speak english. anchor, anchor, anchor...
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:35:00 -
[136]
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
punchbag nr 1,2 and 3.
Don't even start to think you contributed anything.
See you soon.
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Carser
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:38:00 -
[137]
2005.10.15 23:40:00
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=236482
Concluding this, after RA/PA/NBSI/F-E joint operations latelly [5] decided to pull down from their homelands. WE DEFEATED THEM and we won another victory against dark side of the game. I want to congrats all pilots that stood up in front of [5] many times and helped us and our allies fulfilled this dream.
Keep going up the good things!
Congrats,
Anihilus's Alt
PA Navy Admiral
w0w PA really belived they killed [5]
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:38:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Tholarim
punchbag nr 1,2 and 3.
Don't even start to think you contributed anything.
See you soon.
Why did you decide to stop claiming space less than 24 hours after we started taking your stations?
p - l - u - r |
Rukaz
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:40:00 -
[139]
Anybody else think that [5] on the move is a scary thing?
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Flottekommandant
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:41:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Ras Blumin
Originally by: Tholarim
punchbag nr 1,2 and 3.
Don't even start to think you contributed anything.
See you soon.
Why did you decide to stop claiming space less than 24 hours after we started taking your stations?
I think what tholarim is saying, is will this fleet deffend your homeland?
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:46:00 -
[141]
Edited by: Ras Blumin on 16/10/2005 02:47:27
Originally by: Flottekommandant
I think what tholarim is saying, is will this fleet deffend your homeland?
?? Think before posting. You're not making much sense.
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Flottekommandant
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:51:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Ras Blumin
Edited by: Ras Blumin on 16/10/2005 02:47:27
Originally by: Flottekommandant
I think what tholarim is saying, is will this fleet deffend your homeland?
?? Think before posting. You're not making much sense.
Well PA and F-E and whoever else, from what I see, I follow killboards, don't put fleets to 5's fleets they onlt sneek in while the cats away, will you back up your posturing with ships if .5. decide to attack you?
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Dan Kaldar
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Posted - 2005.10.16 02:52:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Ras Blumin
Edited by: Ras Blumin on 16/10/2005 02:42:33
Originally by: Tholarim
punchbag nr 1,2 and 3.
Don't even start to think you contributed anything.
See you soon.
Why did you decide to stop claiming space less than 24 hours after we started taking your stations?
The ppl of eve officialy entitle you, captain clueless!
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Lord Gunstar
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Posted - 2005.10.16 03:05:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Ras Blumin
Edited by: Ras Blumin on 16/10/2005 02:42:33
Originally by: Tholarim
punchbag nr 1,2 and 3.
Don't even start to think you contributed anything.
See you soon.
Why did you decide to stop claiming space less than 24 hours after we started taking your stations? Originally by: Flottekommandant
Well if EW gets you on the mail that does, barely.
Not sure what you are saying, but you can't get final blow's with EW fyi.
We started moving assets out of conquerable stations since 1-2 weeks ago :P
you don't really think a big announcement like this will be made if we still had BPO's minerals and ships, in the conquerable stations do you?
You guys were just lucky that you came here on the day, that the press release was 'predertermined' to be released.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.16 03:05:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Carser
2005.10.15 23:40:00
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=236482
Concluding this, after RA/PA/NBSI/F-E joint operations latelly [5] decided to pull down from their homelands. WE DEFEATED THEM and we won another victory against dark side of the game. I want to congrats all pilots that stood up in front of [5] many times and helped us and our allies fulfilled this dream.
Keep going up the good things!
Congrats,
Anihilus's Alt
PA Navy Admiral
w0w PA really belived they killed [5]
Ummm no. This victory is entirly RED alliance/RAT's. They are the ones who have keep up the good fight using superior tactics to battle impossible odds for months proving eve is not merely counterstrike in space. The5 are one of the most skilled military forces eve has ever seen. This is just proof that eve is not a one dementional game. We are very happy about what Red Alliance has done because it gives great hope to us who belong to alliances that are not 'pure pvp alliances'. It shows that you need not only strong pvpers but strong industrialist to hold space in eve. I have no doubt that the5 will continue to be a powerfull force in eve, however its nice to know there is room for the rest of us. |
Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.10.16 03:10:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Lord Gunstar
We started moving assets out of conquerable stations since 1-2 weeks ago :P
Fair enough.
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Little Jerk
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Posted - 2005.10.16 03:12:00 -
[147]
Originally by: pershphanie
We are very happy about what Red Alliance has done because it gives great hope to us who belong to alliances that are not 'pure pvp alliances'. It shows that you need only strong industrialist to hold space in eve.
fixed
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2005.10.16 03:15:00 -
[148]
NBSI sent a few frig fleets to [5] space, but to be honest, we have more fun in ASCN and VI space, so NBSI didn't contribute much at all to this victory.
Props to RA, great work comrades
Cartiff, CEO
Euphoria Released
NBSI 4TW
"Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.16 03:27:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Little Jerk
Originally by: pershphanie
We are very happy about what Red Alliance has done because it gives great hope to us who belong to alliances that are not 'pure pvp alliances'. It shows that you need only strong industrialist to hold space in eve.
fixed
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.16 03:36:00 -
[150]
"?? Think before posting. You're not making much sense."
He's saying that, since [5] is now free to go anywhere they please and pick on whoever they want, they likely will... and that Tholarim's post is indication those northern alliances who decided to jump up and down in this thread, waving their flags and yelling "looooook at us, we helped kill the big bad [5]" in attempt to gain attention and recognition... might just get that attention. Although perhaps not of the kind they're hoping for -.o
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madhapee
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Posted - 2005.10.16 03:45:00 -
[151]
Edited by: madhapee on 16/10/2005 03:46:10
well i must say interesting developments at least. Yeah the good old fleet battles have passed a bit (still have wet dreams about VV-VCR).
Basically since it seems to have become a game of pure ship numbers. If the enemy manages to outnumber you with lets say 25-50% very few alliances still attack. So the outnumbered fleet will most likely get safe and fight another day. It has gone from "battle" to "ganking" which sucks imo.
Game has also gone stale because of all the naps and friends. The sheer fact that there is a "north" and "south" is crazy. There should be battles all over EVE to make it interesting. It is crazy how many carebear alliances/corps are now "supported by 5".
Everyone should just kill everyone!
Complaining about the POS stuff is lame imo. They could have easily pulled this themselves on another alliance. It is part of the game as of now. Kudos to RED, lets see this new chapter in EVE :)
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.10.16 03:50:00 -
[152]
I didnt see this comming 
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Queen One
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:21:00 -
[153]
GO 5! kill em all!
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Afrodite Etnellag
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:28:00 -
[154]
You FIVE are a bunch of whiners, do you really believe what you say? Or this is a statement just to show off again!!!
Storyline:
The five before they even form officially an alliance HELPS the fall of XETIC. I say helps because you did nothing more than take the station from a pretty much dead alliance (my opinion) XETIC had internal issues long before you guys show up in the map, as it proved later when DDC and CLS formed a new alliance.
Btw those two corps WHERE ôtheö XETIC (politically speaking)
My 3 year old parrot with a brain sized of pea can easily understand that they DDC and CLS wanted XETIC dead(I used to live in immensea and for 3 weeks we had no orders at all from our government when you ôclaimedö xetic space, did I say which where in command of xetic??)
To sum up, you where once the muppets of ASCN, you intentionally or unintentional helped the NEW XETIC=ASCN and their plans to come true (I donÆt know if this just happened or it was planned. Well who gives a s..t, the outcome is the same).
ItÆs just too weird, a CLS shoots down a shinra hauler, you then began the attack against XETIC, xetic falls, CLS+DDC form a new alliance and then you make them your friends (wtf??). WOW thatÆs politics my friend!
Anyway, at the end instead of ASCN to brag about their great politics and their accomplished goal to destroy XETIC, you take ALL the credits!
YOU AND YOUR MIGHTY TECH2 GUNS CONQUERED THE SOUTHERN REGIONS.
Do you really believe that you can take out 500 tech one frigs at the same time with your great setups in you big bsÆs? Xetic maybe where noobs and carebears but they could have pwned you easy! Why they didnÆt? Ask ASCN!!!
After this ômassiveö and ôgreatö victory, you formed an alliance The Five,
I call them the Braggers, you guys where always and still are like ôwe rule, we rock, we are the best and blah blah blahö
Now days, well you donÆt rock and you no longer rule, you have to blame someone for this, CCP hide they are probably coming towards jovian space to pwn you
Lets everybody blame CCP for losing a ship, a region, a station, a pod, because we do not know the rules of the game
POS is 0 speed weapon, if you canÆt get 2 Dreads to kill one POS, then block the main systems that the haulers travel to supply with fuels the POS, if you do not have the ability to even do that, then you do not deserve the space, simply as that!!
How many said congrats to FIVE for the xetic incident??? To many I say!
Why now it bothers you that others do exactly the same for your fall?
Why when YOU do (did!not anymore) something ôamazingö everybody must give you credit? and when others do the even greatest accomplishments, you smack and get really angry to people congratulate them.
You have many enemies and you must respect the reasons for becoming enemies
You made them, NBSI is the result of YOUR acts, they are your muppets in a boardgame that YOU wanted to play. Unfortunately for you they had the guts to get over it, make a new start, become strong, strong enough to fight you and your friends, and thatÆs because they donÆt forget, they will never forget who they used to be, like you forgot your whereabouts and your past.
Well, I canÆt wait for you to get shredded, believe it or not this will happen!
RA GIVE THEM HELL!!!!
Another person that must DIE because he doesnÆt fancy you.
ME
P.S English is not my first language, forgive any grammatical mistakes.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:31:00 -
[155]
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 16/10/2005 04:32:30
Looks like its time to move back south. Whole northern area is gonna be lagged to **** soon... though p3 usually has a good server... /me remembers christmas battle w/ FoE o_O.
Major props go to RA. They defended their home and I'm a bit confused about all the smack vs them for POS ****. Sure its lame as hell, but from the couple vids ive seen they are slaughtering you in fleet battles too. That new one that was posted in the vid forums looks like a 15v20 where they kill about 9 of you and lose 1.
But major GL to 5. The poor, poor north, rofl at them all smacking. 1/2 of them are the xetic nubtards who after CA died smacked that they killed CA. Now "they" killed 5 too huh? Of course not only ignoring the fact that they did nothing while RA did everything, theres kinda the fact that... 5 isn't dead. And, in fact, is "coming alive" so to speak.
5 right now = BoB when they left the north. Oh, the smack after BoB left was incredible, and I remember PA and others trying to claim victory like they "kicked out" BoB, that BoB was finished and running and weak, etc. And now BoB has gone and claimed 4 regions and destroyer 2 alliances. Lets see if history repeats itself yet again.
PS... we need a new contract... /me pets Stan...
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Xarvos
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:33:00 -
[156]
Good luck Five
---------------------------------------------
Let's have some fun shall we ?
ex-mass member
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Flottekommandant
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:34:00 -
[157]
Edited by: Flottekommandant on 16/10/2005 04:34:11
Originally by: Afrodite Etnellag
You FIVE are a bunch of whiners, do you really believe what you say? Or this is a statement just to show off again!!!
Storyline:
The five before they even form officially an alliance HELPS the fall of XETIC. I say helps because you did nothing more than take the station from a pretty much dead alliance (my opinion) XETIC had internal issues long before you guys show up in the map, as it proved later when DDC and CLS formed a new alliance.
Btw those two corps WHERE ôtheö XETIC (politically speaking)
My 3 year old parrot with a brain sized of pea can easily understand that they DDC and CLS wanted XETIC dead(I used to live in immensea and for 3 weeks we had no orders at all from our government when you ôclaimedö xetic space, did I say which where in command of xetic??)
To sum up, you where once the muppets of ASCN, you intentionally or unintentional helped the NEW XETIC=ASCN and their plans to come true (I donÆt know if this just happened or it was planned. Well who gives a s..t, the outcome is the same).
ItÆs just too weird, a CLS shoots down a shinra hauler, you then began the attack against XETIC, xetic falls, CLS+DDC form a new alliance and then you make them your friends (wtf??). WOW thatÆs politics my friend!
Anyway, at the end instead of ASCN to brag about their great politics and their accomplished goal to destroy XETIC, you take ALL the credits!
YOU AND YOUR MIGHTY TECH2 GUNS CONQUERED THE SOUTHERN REGIONS.
Do you really believe that you can take out 500 tech one frigs at the same time with your great setups in you big bsÆs? Xetic maybe where noobs and carebears but they could have pwned you easy! Why they didnÆt? Ask ASCN!!!
After this ômassiveö and ôgreatö victory, you formed an alliance The Five,
I call them the Braggers, you guys where always and still are like ôwe rule, we rock, we are the best and blah blah blahö
Now days, well you donÆt rock and you no longer rule, you have to blame someone for this, CCP hide they are probably coming towards jovian space to pwn you
Lets everybody blame CCP for losing a ship, a region, a station, a pod, because we do not know the rules of the game
POS is 0 speed weapon, if you canÆt get 2 Dreads to kill one POS, then block the main systems that the haulers travel to supply with fuels the POS, if you do not have the ability to even do that, then you do not deserve the space, simply as that!!
How many said congrats to FIVE for the xetic incident??? To many I say!
Why now it bothers you that others do exactly the same for your fall?
Why when YOU do (did!not anymore) something ôamazingö everybody must give you credit? and when others do the even greatest accomplishments, you smack and get really angry to people congratulate them.
You have many enemies and you must respect the reasons for becoming enemies
You made them, NBSI is the result of YOUR acts, they are your muppets in a boardgame that YOU wanted to play. Unfortunately for you they had the guts to get over it, make a new start, become strong, strong enough to fight you and your friends, and thatÆs because they donÆt forget, they will never forget who they used to be, like you forgot your whereabouts and your past.
Well, I canÆt wait for you to get shredded, believe it or not this will happen!
RA GIVE THEM HELL!!!!
Another person that must DIE because he doesnÆt fancy you.
ME
P.S English is not my first language, forgive any grammatical mistakes.
Don't happen to be an NBSI alt do you? just a shot in the dark...
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Haemophiliac
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:35:00 -
[158]
i¦m an alt too, yeah!
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:35:00 -
[159]
Enjoy.
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Arnold Schwarzennegger
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:39:00 -
[160]
Originally by: DrunkenOne
I'm jealous of them
I'd say the same thing, too, if I got kicked out of [5]
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:39:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Arnold Schwarzennegger
Originally by: DrunkenOne
I'm jealous of them
I'd say the same thing, too, if I got kicked out of [5]
Lol?
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Afrodite Etnellag
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:46:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Flottekommandant
Edited by: Flottekommandant on 16/10/2005 04:34:11
[:rollDon't happen to be an NBSI alt do you? just a shot in the dark...
Nice shot, missed about 2 miles the target tho :)
no there are other corps that support NBSI's acts that they are not in an alliance,there where plenty other corps in 0.0 xetic space that now are "loners" but still remembers
btw nice 5 alt too i guess :)
me thinks that alts is even better than smacking!
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Afrodite Etnellag
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:52:00 -
[163]
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 16/10/2005 04:32:30
Looks like its time to move back south. Whole northern area is gonna be lagged to **** soon... though p3 usually has a good server... /me remembers christmas battle w/ FoE o_O.
Major props go to RA. They defended their home and I'm a bit confused about all the smack vs them for POS ****. Sure its lame as hell, but from the couple vids ive seen they are slaughtering you in fleet battles too. That new one that was posted in the vid forums looks like a 15v20 where they kill about 9 of you and lose 1.
But major GL to 5. The poor, poor north, rofl at them all smacking. 1/2 of them are the xetic nubtards who after CA died smacked that they killed CA. Now "they" killed 5 too huh? Of course not only ignoring the fact that they did nothing while RA did everything, theres kinda the fact that... 5 isn't dead. And, in fact, is "coming alive" so to speak.
5 right now = BoB when they left the north. Oh, the smack after BoB left was incredible, and I remember PA and others trying to claim victory like they "kicked out" BoB, that BoB was finished and running and weak, etc. And now BoB has gone and claimed 4 regions and destroyer 2 alliances. Lets see if history repeats itself yet again.
PS... we need a new contract... /me pets Stan...
Can you plz quote any northens post that verifies your pure imagination?
When did any PA,F-E,NBSI took credits for whats happened to the south?
methinks that you must read from the very start of this thread and 1 by 1 the pages, just to prove to your self that your imagination has overcome reality.
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Jim Kirk
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:57:00 -
[164]
hey think....this system of alliances is just like it was in Europe prior to 1914.....and we all know what happend in 1914 i hope :) .... somehow i think you will get your bloodbath
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:58:00 -
[165]
Edited by: j0sephine on 16/10/2005 04:58:52
"Can you plz quote any northens post that verifies your pure imagination?
When did any PA,F-E,NBSI took credits for whats happened to the south?
methinks that you must read from the very start of this thread and 1 by 1 the pages, just to prove to your self that your imagination has overcome reality."
Methinks you in turn skipped page 4 and onwards, otherwise you wouldn't be asking for this verification...
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.16 04:59:00 -
[166]
Originally by: j0sephine
"Can you plz quote any northens post that verifies your pure imagination?
When did any PA,F-E,NBSI took credits for whats happened to the south?
methinks that you must read from the very start of this thread and 1 by 1 the pages, just to prove to your self that your imagination has overcome reality."
Methinks you in turn skipped page 3 and onwards, otherwise you wouldn't be asking for this verification...
beat me to it
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Boabus
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:00:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Afrodite Etnellag
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 16/10/2005 04:32:30
Looks like its time to move back south. Whole northern area is gonna be lagged to **** soon... though p3 usually has a good server... /me remembers christmas battle w/ FoE o_O.
Major props go to RA. They defended their home and I'm a bit confused about all the smack vs them for POS ****. Sure its lame as hell, but from the couple vids ive seen they are slaughtering you in fleet battles too. That new one that was posted in the vid forums looks like a 15v20 where they kill about 9 of you and lose 1.
But major GL to 5. The poor, poor north, rofl at them all smacking. 1/2 of them are the xetic nubtards who after CA died smacked that they killed CA. Now "they" killed 5 too huh? Of course not only ignoring the fact that they did nothing while RA did everything, theres kinda the fact that... 5 isn't dead. And, in fact, is "coming alive" so to speak.
5 right now = BoB when they left the north. Oh, the smack after BoB left was incredible, and I remember PA and others trying to claim victory like they "kicked out" BoB, that BoB was finished and running and weak, etc. And now BoB has gone and claimed 4 regions and destroyer 2 alliances. Lets see if history repeats itself yet again.
PS... we need a new contract... /me pets Stan...
Can you plz quote any northens post that verifies your pure imagination?
When did any PA,F-E,NBSI took credits for whats happened to the south?
methinks that you must read from the very start of this thread and 1 by 1 the pages, just to prove to your self that your imagination has overcome reality.
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
I suggest u read the thread from page 1.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:00:00 -
[168]
Edited by: j0sephine on 16/10/2005 05:02:25
Yeah though turns out it's actually page 4... oh well -.^
edit: that's in response to Drunken's post... damn you people, everyone is way too post-button happy in this thread for me to keep up o.o;
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Mortuus
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:01:00 -
[169]
Only thing that bothers me is 5 complaining about PoS's. I remember a couple being set up in PA space as well guys. And lots of ice being hauled in.
Anyway, I hope to get to fight you guys again, was a lot of fun with ATUK up north this summer. While you may have lost the battle I'm sure your new war with EVE will be a lot of fun.
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Afrodite Etnellag
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:05:00 -
[170]
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
DO i see a final blow over there that says RED ALLIANCE or not?
Final Blow is the major hit
F-E NBSI PA are not the reason that five fall!
RA is, period.
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Boabus
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:08:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Afrodite Etnellag
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
DO i see a final blow over there that says RED ALLIANCE or not?
Final Blow is the major hit
F-E NBSI PA are not the reason that five fall!
RA is, period.
That to me seems like the north are taking credit for the "fall" of 5, no?
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Calderio
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:08:00 -
[172]
insert smart statment here on this particular issue
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:09:00 -
[173]
more importantly:
[05:04:09
] Zelota > DUKE
DROKLAR IS BACK
[05:04:13
] Zelota > and he
is reforming oc
/me waits for Bared to come.
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Ras Blumin
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:09:00 -
[174]
Originally by: j0sephine
He's saying that, since [5] is now free to go anywhere they please and pick on whoever they want, they likely will... and that Tholarim's post is indication those northern alliances who decided to jump up and down in this thread, waving their flags and yelling "looooook at us, we helped kill the big bad [5]" in attempt to gain attention and recognition... might just get that attention. Although perhaps not of the kind they're hoping for -.o
That reply doesn't answer my question tho, which is why I was unsure wtf he was on about.
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Sivxa
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:10:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Calderio
insert smart statment here on this particular issue
the best thing ive read on this thread all night
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:17:00 -
[176]
Edited by: j0sephine on 16/10/2005 05:17:49
"Final Blow is the major hit"
No, "final blow" means the guy who got the last shot in. Nothing more. It's the amount of damage done to target that determines order of 'involved parties' on the killmail.
And well, if the northern alliances take no credit whatsoever in the Five's "demise" then why include themselves on the kill mail at all..?
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Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:17:00 -
[177]
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Edited by: DrunkenOne on 16/10/2005 04:32:30
Looks like its time to move back south. Whole northern area is gonna be lagged to **** soon... though p3 usually has a good server... /me remembers christmas battle w/ FoE o_O.
Major props go to RA. They defended their home and I'm a bit confused about all the smack vs them for POS ****. Sure its lame as hell, but from the couple vids ive seen they are slaughtering you in fleet battles too. That new one that was posted in the vid forums looks like a 15v20 where they kill about 9 of you and lose 1.
But major GL to 5. The poor, poor north, rofl at them all smacking. 1/2 of them are the xetic nubtards who after CA died smacked that they killed CA. Now "they" killed 5 too huh? Of course not only ignoring the fact that they did nothing while RA did everything, theres kinda the fact that... 5 isn't dead. And, in fact, is "coming alive" so to speak.
5 right now = BoB when they left the north. Oh, the smack after BoB left was incredible, and I remember PA and others trying to claim victory like they "kicked out" BoB, that BoB was finished and running and weak, etc. And now BoB has gone and claimed 4 regions and destroyer 2 alliances. Lets see if history repeats itself yet again.
PS... we need a new contract... /me pets Stan...
Quoted for truth. Aside, 5 dont need petty mercinaries :/ North might tho.
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Afrodite Etnellag
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:20:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Boabus
Originally by: Afrodite Etnellag
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
DO i see a final blow over there that says RED ALLIANCE or not?
Final Blow is the major hit
F-E NBSI PA are not the reason that five fall!
RA is, period.
That to me seems like the north are taking credit for the "fall" of 5, no?
NOT the north, but just one guy that probably thinks that the north helped, Nbsi and PA did little as i know but F-E managed to conquer at least a station.You must read the CEO's of posts.
as stated from cartif,nbsi does not take credits for the "fall" of Five
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:22:00 -
[179]
congratulation on the victory RA.
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Afrodite Etnellag
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:24:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Cartiff
NBSI sent a few frig fleets to [5] space, but to be honest, we have more fun in ASCN and VI space, so NBSI didn't contribute much at all to this victory.
Props to RA, great work comrades
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:28:00 -
[181]
Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:34:00 -
[182]
"NBSI sent a few frig fleets to [5] space, but to be honest, we have more fun in ASCN and VI space, so NBSI didn't contribute much at all to this victory."
Afrodite, you've mentioned English isn't your first language, so... "didn't contribute much at all" isn't the same thing as "didn't contribute at all".
The first means "we helped some/little", the latter means "we didn't help that (and so deserve no credit)".
You're basically doing the thing you asked the others to do for you -- provide quotes where northern alliances try to claim some credit (although on the other hand equal number of sensible people from these alliances countered that... but you aren't quoting these)
hope it helps (some/little)
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RickJamez
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:35:00 -
[183]
Edited by: RickJamez on 16/10/2005 05:37:24
One long post deserves another eh? Better make it quick before the lock comes down.
Having enjoyed the pleasure of a contract with M.Corp in delivering POS hardware & supplies, I can say I never heard anything from them nor noticed the usual signs that would indicate a war of attrition with POS towers. So anyone that says RA did a bunch of work to destroy [5] POS towers likely doesnÆt know wtf.
As I remember it, FSA/RA was booted right out of Cache, one conquerable station after the other, relegated to backwater systems where full-time complex running and mining was only interrupted by the occasional necessity to log off when [5] ships entered the system and, to be fair to what I heard, some great engagements in the route between 995 and N-RAEL. That hardly warrants all this patting each otherÆs backs.
I was disappointed when some time over a week ago I was politely informed the contract would be ending and that I should plan accordingly. When I asked if I had lost the contract to someone else, I was told that M.Corp was discontinuing its POS operation in 0.0 at that time (which, considering they still held sovereignty in three systems with conquerable stations, could only mean one of a few things). Some time later, a final purchase was made for delivery of additional weapons for what I would call one last showdown (in which they were successful at taking back stations that were *ahem* prematurely neglected). At this point an M.Corp member put it to me this way: homosexuals may love ghey rodeos, but that doesnÆt mean theyÆre cool. Heh, well it would seem M. (and Five) beat RA in their own *** rodeo only to discover they didnÆt have the desire to sustain that kind of gameplay regardless of the image a withdraw from the region would bring. I thought, that might be called a defeat of sorts, but who wants to be part of a *** rodeo anyways?
Apparently no one in M.Corp enjoyed the whole thing even though they were achieving fair success. Heck, I donÆt blame them really and IÆm into POS. A contest to see who can take the most up there just isnÆt your normal, average gamerÆs can of corn, and probably not really something to toot your horn about if itÆs the only strategy one effectively employs tbh.
I may have it all wrong and be biased since one of my main clients (former) is involved, but thatÆs still a behind the scenes look. Maybe Five really just got owned by RA, but I doubt that.
Best of luck to 5 (especially M.Corp, far more than mild-mannered BPC salesmen), as well as RA, who keep my business flourishing. I guess good luck to the muppets as well, every squirrel deserves a nut I suppose, even if it really belongs to RA. It's a game - have fun.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:49:00 -
[184]
Originally by: j0sephine
"NBSI sent a few frig fleets to [5] space, but to be honest, we have more fun in ASCN and VI space, so NBSI didn't contribute much at all to this victory."
Afrodite, you've mentioned English isn't your first language, so... "didn't contribute much at all" isn't the same thing as "didn't contribute at all".
The first means "we helped some/little", the latter means "we didn't help that (and so deserve no credit)".
You're basically doing the thing you asked the others to do for you -- provide quotes where northern alliances try to claim some credit (although on the other hand equal number of sensible people from these alliances countered that... but you aren't quoting these)
hope it helps (some/little)
OMG you are looking alittle to hard to look for something to complain about. All the northern alliances understand that a few days worth of assistance is nothing compared to fight RA/RAT has given them for the past few months. And the5 should take this thread as a complement. This victory one to be celebrated only because the5 are such a great pvp alliance. If this victory was over ISS there would be no 7 page thread.
Also bob are the last people in eve to be complaining about people celebrating over a victory. Ive read so many OMG BOB 4TW!!!111 threads on these forums i want to gouge my eyes out.
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:52:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Boabus
Originally by: Afrodite Etnellag
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
DO i see a final blow over there that says RED ALLIANCE or not?
Final Blow is the major hit
F-E NBSI PA are not the reason that five fall!
RA is, period.
That to me seems like the north are taking credit for the "fall" of 5, no?
oh come on. That was just a funny. Get a sense of humor. It was not an offical FE stance. Just a pilot having some fun with the situation. |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2005.10.16 05:58:00 -
[186]
"OMG you are looking alittle to hard to look for something to complain about."
It wasn't a complaint ^^
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Shin Ra
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Posted - 2005.10.16 06:01:00 -
[187]
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row.
Does anyone else thing the Vagabond looks like a plucked chicken.
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Hypocratus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.10.16 06:20:00 -
[188]
WOW, just WOW at this thread.
The amount of smalktalking and the general poor behavior demonstrated by tome F-E members is rahter shocking.
Oh wait, check my name.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.10.16 06:21:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row.
Does anyone else thing the Vagabond looks like a plucked chicken.
hmmmmmm.......so there is something we can aggree on.
......so say I Lucian Alucard of the blood line blah blah blah blah no one really cares anymore!
The best joke ever!!!!
[url]http://www.livejournal.com/users/sweet__kitty/40953.html?mode=reply |
Kate Moss
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Posted - 2005.10.16 06:26:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row.
Does anyone else thing the Vagabond looks like a plucked chicken.
I highly recomend you go get a flock of live chickens and find out. I hear they are rather cheap in Vietnam atm.
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.10.16 07:05:00 -
[191]
Originally by: DrunkenOne
more importantly:
[05:04:09
] Zelota > DUKE
DROKLAR IS BACK
[05:04:13
] Zelota > and he
is reforming oc
/me waits for Bared to come.
now THAT is some interesting news..... yes Bared.. your the biggest OC fanboy... where are you?
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.10.16 07:16:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Blacklight
This thread is hilarious, so many people so quick to enjoy their moment of 'perceived' victory over [5]. So many people obviously clueless about how POS wars currently work and how Dreadnaughts currently work.
I'll enjoy re-reading this thread in a couple of months time when Dreads have been balanced properly and the currently gimped soveriegnty system has been fixed.
I foresee a lot of humble pie being eaten.
Personally I hope [5] go and rub some of the crowing retards noses in it over the next couple of months until this POS and Dread mess has been sorted out.
Until then kudos to RA and respect to [5].
Seeing as how I'm Blacklight's alt (or was it main?), I have to agree with the above. Dreads are going to change at some point and the rules of the game will shift. Respect to both RA and 5, but I've little doubt that Round 2 is not far off.
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Hampstah
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Posted - 2005.10.16 07:21:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: DrunkenOne
Now I kinda see why people post using alts, its pretty embarrasing when you try and flame yet backfire and get completely owned by about 5 people in a row.
Does anyone else thing the Vagabond looks like a plucked chicken.
/me cries... You've completely ruined the experience of flying a Vagabond. I'm always going to think of a dead plucked chicken when flying it now  
p.s. both Persh and Cartiff acknowledged that the north had very little to do with this situation...so can we let it go now?
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Beware Rodentz with Gunz
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2005.10.16 07:21:00 -
[194]
Who takes Zelota seriously, tbh?
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If Captain James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock embracing one another, in a bath tube, nude, in space, is wrong, I don't want to be right. |
WarRages
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Posted - 2005.10.16 07:32:00 -
[195]
Edited by: WarRages on 16/10/2005 07:34:01
Originally by: RickJamez
Edited by: RickJamez on 16/10/2005 05:37:24
One long post deserves another eh? Better make it quick before the lock comes down.
Having enjoyed the pleasure of a contract with M.Corp in delivering POS hardware & supplies, I can say I never heard anything from them nor noticed the usual signs that would indicate a war of attrition with POS towers. So anyone that says RA did a bunch of work to destroy [5] POS towers likely doesnÆt know wtf.
As I remember it, FSA/RA was booted right out of Cache, one conquerable station after the other, relegated to backwater systems where full-time complex running and mining was only interrupted by the occasional necessity to log off when [5] ships entered the system and, to be fair to what I heard, some great engagements in the route between 995 and N-RAEL. That hardly warrants all this patting each otherÆs backs.
I was disappointed when some time over a week ago I was politely informed the contract would be ending and that I should plan accordingly. When I asked if I had lost the contract to someone else, I was told that M.Corp was discontinuing its POS operation in 0.0 at that time (which, considering they still held sovereignty in three systems with conquerable stations, could only mean one of a few things). Some time later, a final purchase was made for delivery of additional weapons for what I would call one last showdown (in which they were successful at taking back stations that were *ahem* prematurely neglected). At this point an M.Corp member put it to me this way: homosexuals may love ghey rodeos, but that doesnÆt mean theyÆre cool. Heh, well it would seem M. (and Five) beat RA in their own *** rodeo only to discover they didnÆt have the desire to sustain that kind of gameplay regardless of the image a withdraw from the region would bring. I thought, that might be called a defeat of sorts, but who wants to be part of a *** rodeo anyways?
Apparently no one in M.Corp enjoyed the whole thing even though they were achieving fair success. Heck, I donÆt blame them really and IÆm into POS. A contest to see who can take the most up there just isnÆt your normal, average gamerÆs can of corn, and probably not really something to toot your horn about if itÆs the only strategy one effectively employs tbh.
I may have it all wrong and be biased since one of my main clients (former) is involved, but thatÆs still a behind the scenes look. Maybe Five really just got owned by RA, but I doubt that.
Best of luck to 5 (especially M.Corp, far more than mild-mannered BPC salesmen), as well as RA, who keep my business flourishing. I guess good luck to the muppets as well, every squirrel deserves a nut I suppose, even if it really belongs to RA. It's a game - have fun.
You should have said "you don't know" guess all those pos's we shot down were actually figments of our imagination.
Yes alot of hard work and dedication was put into this war and it finally paid off. Anyway thxs for the fun fights 5 and i'm sure we will see you all again. And to RA, the long haul may look like it's over but think we both know thats not true. Anyways repsect to 5 and hope a lesson of resolve was learned with this war.
And wtf why are we not on that kill mail
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.10.16 07:43:00 -
[196]
HAHAHAHA 5 sucks meh opfff, mujhhnaa im so uber, gahas
Pat and Max sitting in a tree, K I S S I N G
MAXSuicide > dude, u couldnt get enough of me the other night
Cmdr Patrick > i love you |
Gerome Doutrande
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Posted - 2005.10.16 07:48:00 -
[197]
gg ra, gl 5, hopefully this will lead to some interesting new things to read here soon.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.10.16 07:54:00 -
[198]
Edited by: shivan on 16/10/2005 07:56:51
Edited by: shivan on 16/10/2005 07:54:22
OMG best song for this thread is
Baby bltch by Aluminum babe
oh and GL to someone to try and dl it, i had to buy the cd
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.16 07:58:00 -
[199]
I must be missing something here, because some of the posts seem a bit left field to me.
RA made good use of a bad game mechanic.
Before you flame me for that, read on.
5 had the same mechanics to work with, but could not make it work for them in the same way as RA, so props to RA.
There are two real issues as I see it.
Firstly, timezone.
Now this is a constant problem not only with Eve, but with any PvP game which encourages grouping. It is only natural to group with people who are awake when you are!
The reason that timezone gets noted as an issue here is because it amplifies the second issue.
POS balance.
The time balance between anchoring a POS and destroying it is way out.
I have no issue with a fully active POS being a PITA to remove, but the same should not be true of a tower on its own.
So, with these two issues we are in a position where claiming space is about anchoring or destroying towers. It isn't really about combat because of the timezone issue.
With the current POS time balance, the game favours the people who can put up more POS, not destroy more.
Undoubtedly this will be balanced at some point (I don't think that CCP want 1 guy in an indy being > POS siege fleet), but until then alliances like RA will have the upper hand. I can understand 5's descision - it must have been hard to make, and I can respect RA's ability.
Personally I would be with 5 on this one, simply because I'd rather PvP than PvE, but RA used the best tactic under the current game mechanics.
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The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Kate Moss
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Posted - 2005.10.16 08:05:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Liet Traep
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
Thanks for the mention RA and RAT. But we didn't have really much to do with it. this is a clear victory for you you guys and Copia War Rages. Congrats on your hard won victory.
I think you should see who actually made the post you quoted. Neither [5] nor RA can be found in this thread. Rather, the unimportant people coming in and beating their chests. You don't have to like [5], or RA to see that much.
GG embarassing yoursleves.
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.10.16 08:05:00 -
[201]
Well, RA did win their space. You can't deny it really.
5 is more dangerous now than ever tho...but hey, my guns arent picky.
~Captain Cutie, HFS Iron Fist
Biomass fears me.
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Hypocratus Maximus
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Posted - 2005.10.16 08:07:00 -
[202]
Edited by: Hypocratus Maximus on 16/10/2005 08:09:14
Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi
Well, RA did win their space. You can't deny it really.
5 is more dangerous now than ever tho...but hey, my guns arent picky.
LOL wow, PA truely is Argentina!!!!
I guess it's true some corp's just are born to be alliance bound.
Add: Nice job to aniulius (or wtf ever) beating his chest on our private forums. Now, if he could only step out of the complex he's stuck in. Maybe he should petition CCP for a 'Stuck'. Maybe it would be more successful than his quit post after he fell alseep nd lost his CNR.
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.10.16 08:18:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Kate Moss
Originally by: Liet Traep
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
Thanks for the mention RA and RAT. But we didn't have really much to do with it. this is a clear victory for you you guys and Copia War Rages. Congrats on your hard won victory.
I think you should see who actually made the post you quoted. Neither [5] nor RA can be found in this thread. Rather, the unimportant people coming in and beating their chests. You don't have to like [5], or RA to see that much.
GG embarassing yoursleves.
arn't you in rehab or something?
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Plague Rexus
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Posted - 2005.10.16 08:45:00 -
[204]
We lub you ATUK, people just wanted to find a way to make you visit the rest of us more
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Jonkai
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Posted - 2005.10.16 08:57:00 -
[205]
Good work RA :)
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Coeleth
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Posted - 2005.10.16 08:58:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Top Dog
Does this announcement mean that I can mine in Cache if I get in contact with the new holders (NBSI/FE etc?) and what will it cost me.
I think you'll find the "new" holders would be Red Alliance, who were in fact the original holders before naughty Five people invaded it.
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:04:00 -
[207]
All i can say is well done to both sides, a war fought with honour.
Good luck RA with curse
Such is Life
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:20:00 -
[208]
Its funny to see some people in this thread say because "the north" has apparently claimed victory we better watch out because 5 will be coming for us now.
I think itÆs pretty apparent that 5 didn't like the north anyway and it would be their first target.
As for the flaming in this thread, what did people expect?
5 do their fare share of flaming and general arrogance on the forums and weren't much liked by their enemy's, you reap what you so. I am sure NBSI would receive the same treatment from the people in this game that don't like us if our space was lost.
But on to the real point, putting up POS's, and taking them down, is not fun, station ping-pong is not fun.
PVP'ers want to fight and fight and fight, it seems 5 were not getting what they want and want go back to having fun.
I am sure when you do come north, you will have fun and we will have fun. Surely thatÆs what this game is about right?
GL 5.
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Kantar
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:23:00 -
[209]
Me Casa e`tua Casa [5].
Congr RA enjoy, but I think you just awaken the Lion, now is out and looking for flesh and blood, so I think is only the starter of the war, now that [5] dont need to defend anymore they will attack anything and everything.
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HC MasiEEE
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:27:00 -
[210]
Just had too post here 
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HC MasiEEE
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:29:00 -
[211]
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 16/10/2005 09:30:08
Well, I still don't see, where RED has defeated 'The 5'. They have won the stations by the pos war. That's right. But e.g. curse was uncontested.
My experience of the pos war: My corp shot some unarmed poses down in Wicked Creek one day with the help of a friend corp and after the system had no soverenity at all, we conquered a station.
We lost it again in the morning hours, we saw that some red mining corps helped to shoot it down (-> final blow)
At that point we had already enough of this pos war, because we as a non-alliance [5]-friendly corp couldn't claim soverenity anyway.
So what we did in the following days was building a base in Wicked Creek and trying to destroy everything that makes use of these stations.
On the first day there was a lot of traffic and people tried to go on with their mining and hauling to the refinery. Some tried to fight. After some days, the area was abandoned, guess people had enough of being isolated on the stations most of the time not being able to do anything. And even now that we went to Cache there are ususally no people in the area (=blobs on the map).
So soverenity and territory control are two different things.
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:33:00 -
[212]
Edited by: Darko1107 on 16/10/2005 09:35:15
If you look at the [5] Killboard its clear RA are getting the **** kicked out of them in fights/ganks accept for 1 or 2 odd corps like RAT.
But:
.5. consists of 7 member corporations, 1085 pilots reside under its sovereignty.
RED consists of 14 member corporations, 701 pilots reside under its sovereignty.
How can you expect them to litterally fight for the regions? You have 7 focused pvp corps that can field huge numbers of dedicated pilots, they have 14, some crap, some good and some probly just indy corps. I know [5] isnt OMGOMGOMGPUREPVPLOL, but they still have WAY more pvpers than most other alliances.
They wanted to beat you, they knew they couldnt do it by just constantly fighting and attacking, so they did the only thing they could do. Logistics is just as much a part of war as PvP.
At PvP, [5] > RA
At Logistics, RA > [5]
And logistics won over. But still, RA have boredem on thier side.
From RA's perspective, go into enemy territory, set up pos's to keep key systems and hold them while fighting off [5]. Sounds like great fun.
From [5]'s, go x amount of jumps to attack a pos all night to gain back 1 system, hunt the few RA gankers. Day 2, same again, and again and again. BORING.
I wouldnt want to fight that war, sounds crap. But, not matter what any1 says, RA did a damn good job, they played the game extremely well, and if that makes it boring for the otherside well tough, RA wanted to win, with that they got fun, and since you declared this war, i doubt they care wether you have fun or not. For it, they deserve credit and respect, imo.
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Jherek Cornelian
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:33:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Kate Moss
Originally by: Liet Traep
Originally by: unforg1ven
Edited by: unforg1ven on 16/10/2005 00:41:56
Victim: The Five
Location: Catch
Time: 22:20:00
Date: 15/10/2005
Destroyed Tipe: Alliance
Security Status: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Red Alliance (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Phoenix Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Forsaken Empire
Security Status: 5.0
Name: NBSI Alliance
Security Status: 5.0
Name: The Rest of our Friends
Thanks for the mention RA and RAT. But we didn't have really much to do with it. this is a clear victory for you you guys and Copia War Rages. Congrats on your hard won victory.
I think you should see who actually made the post you quoted. Neither [5] nor RA can be found in this thread. Rather, the unimportant people coming in and beating their chests. You don't have to like [5], or RA to see that much.
GG embarassing yoursleves.
Every alt on this thread is a 5 member so spare us the 5 cannot be found on this thread nonsense.
You got beat, suck it up and move on.
We've been beat 3 times in the last year, we have been flamed from all corners of eve, but mostly by giggling 5 members, but at no point did you see us blaming CCP for losing. We took a deep breath and moved on:
punchbag nr 1,2 and 3.
Don't even start to think you contributed anything.
See you soon.
you need to get over yourself thoc foc, the school bully who talks big always get beat up at some point by the little kids who band together.
Your threats are as empty as your head.
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High Sierra
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:36:00 -
[214]
ahem
I would just like to bring peoples attention to the fact that 5 are quoting the 'poor' POS situation as one of the reasons they are pulling out of holding space etc.
I have also seen POS wars referred to by 5 members as 'lame'
So of course 5 never employed this form of warfare at all did they.
A 5 POS was never set up in HPA and 5 never hid behind its shield refusing to come out and fight except for the occasional raid when they thought they might get an easy kill
they then never moved that pos to 6NJ to do the same thing when we simply refused to allow them easy kills in HPA
face it 5, in the end RA just wouldnt give up. Everyone else turning up is merely a reflection of the fact you upset too many people and like I said before, what goes around comes around.
I am not claiming a victory over you because every time I tried to fight you, you ran.
I can't claim a victory because truly RA have done all the legwork.
However it does make me incredibly happy to be invited by RA to come and see you lose this war. And if I get to take some of you down to help RA so much the better.
People are saying we should be worried because 5 no longer have any territory to claim. So what. You want to PvP? lets PvP. BUt dont come to our space, set up a pos and hide behind its shield whilst crowing on these forums about how good you are.
Flame away kids I just dont care.
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:42:00 -
[215]
Would al the [5] lovers stop posting
It's getting silly *[5] didnt get beat*
No, they didnt, they dont want to fight a pos war but under no circumstance is this CCP's fault, 0.0 is ment for POS, pvp in 0.0 is juts a bonus, now elt that sink in.
I was a member of Shinra, i know what they can do, RA outsmarted [5], simple as that
Good luck to [5] and to RA And RAT
Ur all honourable people
Such is Life
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:43:00 -
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After actually going through all 8 pages of this drivel, I can honestly say this is by far either the worst, or the best tactical move I've seen coming from 5 to date.
On one hand, you're getting a public slapping here and your image is going to suffer for pulling out of your own space. Refusing to play the POS game is one thing, turning tail and invading someone because its easier is being weak.
On the other hand, this announcement is really good bait for the smacktalkers and gloaters who think they've somehow won. If your members are anything like me, it'll only fuel their desires to kill..
Two outcomes, one has 5 running around headless and morally crippled. The other has them rampaging for a while until sovereignty warfare is fixed, then settling down into the proper way of things.
Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.10.16 09:44:00 -
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Originally by: Dafuzz
Edited by: Dafuzz on 16/10/2005 00:14:03
Originally by: Snake Jankins
Had a good laugh. If I understood the anouncement right, they just state that they are giving up the fight to gain soverenity because they can't win this pos war.
I wouldn't say "can't win" the POS war, I would say "don't want to".
Best wishes [5].
like as in i could kick ur a$$ but i just cant be bothered?.
d solo.
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Edoo
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:11:00 -
[218]
PA/FE aren't really claiming victory.. just celebrating really. And about Anihilus' post, that was to increase morale, if he was bragging it would have been public.
Just clearing up a few matters.
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S9000
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:15:00 -
[219]
POS war? Look that http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/RAT/rat_vs_snra.wmv
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:31:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Avon
I must be missing something here, because some of the posts seem a bit left field to me.
RA made good use of a bad game mechanic.
Before you flame me for that, read on.
5 had the same mechanics to work with, but could not make it work for them in the same way as RA, so props to RA.
There are two real issues as I see it.
Firstly, timezone.
Now this is a constant problem not only with Eve, but with any PvP game which encourages grouping. It is only natural to group with people who are awake when you are!
The reason that timezone gets noted as an issue here is because it amplifies the second issue.
POS balance.
The time balance between anchoring a POS and destroying it is way out.
I have no issue with a fully active POS being a PITA to remove, but the same should not be true of a tower on its own.
So, with these two issues we are in a position where claiming space is about anchoring or destroying towers. It isn't really about combat because of the timezone issue.
With the current POS time balance, the game favours the people who can put up more POS, not destroy more.
Undoubtedly this will be balanced at some point (I don't think that CCP want 1 guy in an indy being > POS siege fleet), but until then alliances like RA will have the upper hand. I can understand 5's descision - it must have been hard to make, and I can respect RA's ability.
Personally I would be with 5 on this one, simply because I'd rather PvP than PvE, but RA used the best tactic under the current game mechanics.
What you call "bad game mechaincs" are merely game mechanics which do not suit YOURs or 5's style of gameplay. You say you would rather PvP instead of PvE, nobody is stopping you from doing that, you just can't do ALL PvP and expect to claim multiple regions and maintain a claim on those regions.
The game has changed. Alliances who rely mostly on PvP with little-to-no industrial base to support their claim on space are goign the way of the dinosaur.
You must have balance, you said it yourself, but the balance is a good PvP force AND a strong industrial base and NOT your idea of balance, which is tipping the scales back to a style of gameplay you liked in the past because YOU won.
The removal of 5 from their own space by losing the industrial war is a "clarion call" to those alliance who believe PvP is everythign and industry is for the weak. Time to rethink.
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Snake Jankins
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:32:00 -
[221]
Edited by: Snake Jankins on 16/10/2005 10:33:50
Originally by: j0rz
No, they didnt, they dont want to fight a pos war but under no circumstance is this CCP's fault, 0.0 is ment for POS, pvp in 0.0 is juts a bonus, now elt that sink in.
Don't think so. It's meant that you claim a region, kick the enemies out, claim soverenity with your poses, conquer the stations and make money and live there in your own conquered territory. If you can't defend it, it's useless. If anyone claims hed with pos'es then yes, it has a soverenity. But everyone will say: "HED, soverenity ? I give a f**k ! I kill where I want." Just as an example.
The system is made for alliances that have both: economical and fire power. Guess at the moment it's a bit broken, even the devs noticed that and at the moment it's useless to fight the tower-drop-war as a pvp-alliance.
P.S.: Btw I'm not a fanboy, I just write what I think about the soverenity system at the moment. And I never said that the [5] didn't loose this kind of war. They state themselves that they did. But people were talking about 'The end of [5]', because RA has beaten them. That's maybe the wish of some people, because they don't like [5] and enjoy this, but: "Welcome back to reality !"
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:34:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Edoo
PA/FE aren't really claiming victory.. just celebrating really. And about Anihilus' post, that was to increase morale, if he was bragging it would have been public.
Just clearing up a few matters.
You guys shouldn't celebrate anything. You're definitly on the "let's kill them" list of the [5].
T
he South celebrates the end of oppression in our regions. This is the victory of all the southern people who fought the [5] (so definitly not ASCN victory ). But victory won't be complete until [5] disbands.
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Fillmeup
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:38:00 -
[223]
Personally, I think both sides had the same capability to use whatever tactics they see fit. In this particular case, it appears the tactic was better used by RA and not 5.
I have a great deal of respect for 5, and to be honest RA I hardly know. However, the opening post took that respect down a notch - don't blame the game for something not going your way, just be better at using the game than your oponents as you have histoically been.
That said - good luck 5 pursuing your extreme PvP ability, and great job RA for defendng the space against one of EVE's most seasoned PvP forces.
Oh, and thats one damm sweet pic at the top of the post
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GIGGLES
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:39:00 -
[224]
In the words of DaFuzz after BOB offlined an FA POS using an alt spy, "We play to win, within game mechanics.
And yes, it was a marvelous achievement. Wink"
Well RA won using game mechanics. Yes it was a marvelous achievement.
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RickJamez
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:39:00 -
[225]
Originally by: WarRages
Edited by: WarRages on 16/10/2005 07:34:01
You should have said "you don't know" guess all those pos's we shot down were actually figments of our imagination.
Heh, I never said I knew who shot what. Based on indications during the time I carried the contract (no not math, I ain't no rocket scientist), M.Corp POS control tower replacement was virtually 0%. This indicates two things to me:
1) They had a very tight maintainence operation.
2) Their adversary was either unwilling or incapable of making a successful siege against online and lightly armed POS installations.
Regardless, the results were evident on the sovereignty map. Within one or two weeks of M.Corp's launching POS operations in Cache (those to which I was privy anyways), M.Corp or Shinra had conquered every station in the region - with no signs of attrition. This was the situation for a prolonged period of time. Since they must have coordinated with other [5] corps, their alliance mates may very well have been a source of any replacement towers. Except that in discussions it was never mentioned that they had any problems with towers being attacked or suffering any losses. On the contrary, considering how weak their standard deployment defenses were (lightly armed by any standards), I'm amazed they weren't losing them left and right tbh (which I surely would have been aware of had it been the case). My impression from M.Corp was that they would rather destroy RA POS installations than bring in more of their own. Five's success in this strategy was independently confirmed to me by another client.
I suppose if any of those were M.Corp towers RA/Copia/whoever destroyed during the occupation (as opposed to take after withdrawal), then I'm off my rocker. Still I'm skeptical that's the case. Doesn't matter much now either way. Five seem to be washing their hands of that entire strategy anyways.
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Hassis
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:51:00 -
[226]
congrats with ya freedom, cya
UA Industry :: We produce frags |
christoforos
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Posted - 2005.10.16 10:58:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
You guys shouldn't celebrate anything. You're definitly on the "let's kill them" list of the [5].
T
he South celebrates the end of oppression in our regions. This is the victory of all the southern people who fought the [5] (so definitly not ASCN victory ). But victory won't be complete until [5] disbands.
You are right, but we can celebrate for now. The North (at least PA) has contributed little to this war. Although you could say, we kept ATUK busy for about a month (even if they have chosen that). RA should be credited full for this. They have shown how dedication and clever tactics can beat a larger and more powerful enemy.
If we were realistic, PA/NBSI/F-E, shouldn't be happy, because we will propably have some or all of 5 attack us. But this is a game after all. And we are happy, that one of our enemies lost big (at least a battle if not the war) and that 5 realized what we were saying all along. Defending your regions is far more difficult than attacking. And retreating to NPC stations to fight a different style of war that suits the situation is not the ultimate shame, like BoB accused the PA.
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:03:00 -
[228]
Originally by: GIGGLES
In the words of DaFuzz after BOB offlined an FA POS using an alt spy, "We play to win, within game mechanics.
And yes, it was a marvelous achievement. Wink"
Well RA won using game mechanics. Yes it was a marvelous achievement.
Yes it was a great achievment ... What this case show us is that Industrial Power in the end wins over military power
Five and other few alliances have a huge military power ( if you want to understand that like terrific pvp's and fleet battle organization )... But in then end they were victims of their self nature (pvp's mining ???? hell no ... pvp's refuelling POS ???? hell no)
Seems to me that the 5 total lack of logistics made this result.
The POS made his arrival and is here to stay .. maybe it needs still some balancing ... but it's the only secure way of claim systems ...
One last conclusion ... a lot of the Alliance Territorial claims is only seen in the fancy map that we have in the forums ... in reality the big majority of the alliances just dont have the logistics and human power to control the areas that they claim .... a decided and well organized group of corps with good logistics ( this means builders, haulers, and miners ) and enough pvp's players will succeed in go there and claim it ...
Congratulations RA RAT
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Re4l 4lt
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:04:00 -
[229]
Its impossible to defeat any alliance that feeds their families by mining in eve. They will spend 12 hours "playing" the game just to make sure they can bring home some tobacco and Vodka.
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Re4l 4lt
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:06:00 -
[230]
Originally by: j0rz
I was a member of Shinra, i know what they can do
Wow respect!
How come you have to brag about beeing former member of Shinra in every 3rd post you write on these forums?
Go on, continue to make a complete fool out of yourself
(and SAS)
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Christopher Multsanti
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:09:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Re4l 4lt
Its impossible to defeat any alliance that feeds their families by mining in eve. They will spend 12 hours "playing" the game just to make sure they can bring home some tobacco and Vodka.
No 5 posts allowed in this thread, cant read lung?
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:09:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Re4l 4lt
Its impossible to defeat any alliance that feeds their families by mining in eve. They will spend 12 hours "playing" the game just to make sure they can bring home some tobacco and Vodka.
 Sad
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Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:17:00 -
[233]
I remember when CA colapsed a lot of ppl were happy exept the ppl that actually fought them for all that time (Stain). Now again a lot of ppl are happy with the decision 5 made to stop caring about space claims. History repeating itself?
Now try to think back and think what happened when CA colaspsed , now add to this the fact that 5 have not disbanded .
CCP has indeed fecked the pvp up imo with the introduction of POSs and Dreads (that apparently need more support than POSs and can not properly defend themselves in ship to ship battle). RA has expoited (in the good sense) these game mechanics as noone in game could possibly have and therefore have proved that they are a force noone wants to feck with . The problem is not that 5 is ****ed off or whatever. The problem is that this game has lost a lot of its pvp content (truth be said it gained Industrial content) due to the introduction of POS system. The only thing you need now as an alliance for defence is a POS network and the ability to blob up. Pvp skills dont count no more and the only think left for pvpers in this game is pirating or merching. Noone is going to bother to spend 5-10 or even more hours a day to take out a POS, simply because it is no fun sitting there. It will be sad to eve evolve, or rather mutate into a "Sims go mining" or a "Simon (Tombs alt) said lets build POSs" game.
Well done RA, Gl 5 n god have mercy on ur next targets ;)
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MACTEP
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:18:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Lazarix
The only thing that RA have mastered in this long fight was the "Logoffski" maneuver.
1.Respect to [5], ATUK, M and SNRA are the best corps' i've worked with in eve. when we're together, we totally pwn RA. in an all out battle, [5] would win.
2. In a game of "who can get sovereignty of a system" RA win cause of their froggy mining corps fueling the pos's.
1.Yes in most battles when -5- have 20 bs while RA 10...they could win...but when there are 10 -5- bs vs 10 RA they don t will fight...DID NOT SEE ANY of the
-5- pilots which could fight vs lager gang....
2.Every day in detorid were 50-100 miners( i had never saw 20 barges in one place before i came to detorid)...it just in detorid! while in cache there were 10-15 miner)))
IDIOT and you are talking about "mining corps fueling the pos's" !Many of pvp players spent there time to haul and money for fuel, pos's...
words ...words...and nothing more
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Destroyer Draxx
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:23:00 -
[235]
Originally by: j0rz
Would al the [5] lovers stop posting
It's getting silly *[5] didnt get beat*
No, they didnt, they dont want to fight a pos war but under no circumstance is this CCP's fault, 0.0 is ment for POS, pvp in 0.0 is juts a bonus, now elt that sink in.
I was a member of Shinra, i know what they can do, RA outsmarted [5], simple as that
Good luck to [5] and to RA And RAT
Ur all honourable people
must have bought and played the wrong game for the last 2 years then, thanks for clearing out. I always thought that 0.0 was for pvp and ing in 0.0 was a bonus, I all confused now
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:25:00 -
[236]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/10/2005 11:25:41
Interesting... I wonder where the five is gonna hang out next...
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:31:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/10/2005 11:25:41
Interesting... I wonder where the five is gonna hang out next...
I believe that everybody is making that question at the moment !!!! maybe they will go near their allies BOB ... but is just a wild guess ...
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FILFIUS
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:32:00 -
[238]
Congrats to RA & [5] . Been interesting reading all the forum chat, good and bad.
RA understood the mechanics of the game and used it to their advantage, they have shown everyone the way to hold out. Defend your space or lose it.
Congrats to FSA who have lost much during this conflict and fought hard against superior odds.
What happens to V alliance who have been allied to [5] all this time?
For those who think [5] are dead, watch out. Change a name but the body is still the same. Those corps will want someones space and I expect it will be sooner rather than later.
Enjoyed watching this unfold from the beginning. Good fight all
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Suicide Keen
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:38:00 -
[239]
You guys who are spouting off are going to be the first targets of major spankings. I am just going to say one thing ahead of time, "I told you so.".
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Martin Mckenna
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:39:00 -
[240]
Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 16/10/2005 11:39:16
little movie to show people
Linkage
got pwned?! :)
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:41:00 -
[241]
Originally by: FILFIUS
Congrats to FSA who have lost much during this conflict and fought hard against superior odds.
Maybe people will understand now what happen to FSA ... 5 in one side RA in the other ... 2 wars against RA and 1 against 5 ... ouch ...
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Intak Atak
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:43:00 -
[242]
Edited by: Intak Atak on 16/10/2005 11:45:16
Edited by: Intak Atak on 16/10/2005 11:43:08
Originally by: MACTEP
DID NOT SEE ANY of the -5- pilots which could fight vs lager gang....
http://five.killboard.net/?p=stats_day&d=2005-09-10
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:50:00 -
[243]
Most likely .5. is going up north...
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Follower of the Blood Revolution.
Sani Sabik.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.10.16 11:58:00 -
[244]
Originally by: ****take
What you call "bad game mechaincs" are merely game mechanics which do not suit YOURs or 5's style of gameplay. You say you would rather PvP instead of PvE, nobody is stopping you from doing that, you just can't do ALL PvP and expect to claim multiple regions and maintain a claim on those regions.
The game has changed. Alliances who rely mostly on PvP with little-to-no industrial base to support their claim on space are goign the way of the dinosaur.
You must have balance, you said it yourself, but the balance is a good PvP force AND a strong industrial base and NOT your idea of balance, which is tipping the scales back to a style of gameplay you liked in the past because YOU won.
The removal of 5 from their own space by losing the industrial war is a "clarion call" to those alliance who believe PvP is everythign and industry is for the weak. Time to rethink.
The point is not that a good industrial base is required in any 0.0 organisation that expects to have longevity. The point is that the current mechanics governing POS and mechanisms to destroy POS are unbalanced in that it is considerably easier and quicker to erect lots of POS than it is to destroy lots of POS.
Industry is not for the weak, the only pvper who believes that is a pvper about to enjoy a very short career. Industry 'only' is for the weak, which the last year or so and the swing towards largely pvp oriented alliances has shown.
The [5] leadership (and the BoB leadership for that matter) understand all too well that a strong industrial base is needed to be successful in 0.0, we've always understood that.
A strong industry designed to supply and fuel the military is not the same as being able to throw up literally dozens of POS every night for no other reason than to control soveriegnty. Anyone with an indy a scout and some wit can throw up 8 undefended small towers with minimum fuel knowing that all they are there for is to hold onto soveriegnty and knowing that it takes so long to even take those down that some will still be there when you log on the following day.
Whatever people's stand point on [5] or RA or the resolution of this stage in their conflict, there is no denying the fact that there is indeed an imbalance in favour of the putting up POS rather than destroying them.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Corak
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Posted - 2005.10.16 12:02:00 -
[245]
Darko1107
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
and to all who is here
wach here
stan on boaed is RED kill 777 and loses 1388 OK
TAKE CALCULATOR = RED kills 1521 ([5] board is broken i think ) RED loses = 1498 .
its about totaly pawned RED from [5] .
want best info from RED about kills
wach this
UA Industry :: We produce frags |
Dwayn Dibbly
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Posted - 2005.10.16 12:03:00 -
[246]
Originally by: RickJamez
.....At this point an M.Corp member put it to me this way: homosexuals may love ghey rodeos, but that doesnÆt mean theyÆre cool. Heh, well it would seem M. (and Five) beat RA in their own *** rodeo only to discover they didnÆt have the desire to sustain that kind of gameplay regardless of the image a withdraw from the region would bring. I thought, that might be called a defeat of sorts, but who wants to be part of a *** rodeo anyways? .......
OMFG ROFL - this is not flame or anything like that, just find this statement funny as hell
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Corak
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Posted - 2005.10.16 12:13:00 -
[247]
but OK
War vs POSes , stations , regions is not a game . its like you play tetris, not EVE . EVE is very good game and i love EVE . i think RED haven't won in this war, it's just the thing that [5] became very bored like we are in this POS war .
[5] have a big gangs and if they want they fight in fleet batles very good . RED aliance have a lot of very good solo PvPer's and in fleet batles we are not strong . we just can`t bring 70+ members gang and fight with this big gang - we just don't like this sort of ''battles''. It's not a fight against ur enemy, it's fight against a LAG.
C u in space.
UA Industry :: We produce frags |
Intak Atak
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Posted - 2005.10.16 12:15:00 -
[248]
Edited by: Intak Atak on 16/10/2005 12:18:11
Originally by: Corak
Darko1107
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
and to all who is here
wach here
stan on boaed is RED kill 777 and loses 1388 OK
TAKE CALCULATOR = RED kills 1521 ([5] board is broken i think ) RED loses = 1498 .
its about totaly pawned RED from [5] .
want best info from RED about kills
wach this
Basically what you are saying is that you had "more" kills because you had more targets?
I think the propper term would be that [5] has no targets left.
Kinda hard to kill someone that only sits in pos all day aint it?
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2005.10.16 12:20:00 -
[249]
this thread is so funny....
but more seriusly some ppl up north are gonna shi. there pannies real soon....
then they might not be so big mouthed anymore....
Originally by: Eris Discordia
As a minmatar I have to say the only good Amarr is a dead Amarr
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2005.10.16 12:22:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Corak
but OK
War vs POSes , stations , regions is not a game . its like you play tetris, not EVE . EVE is very good game and i love EVE . i think RED haven't won in this war, it's just the thing that [5] became very bored like we are in this POS war .
[5] have a big gangs and if they want they fight in fleet batles very good . RED aliance have a lot of very good solo PvPer's and in fleet batles we are not strong . we just can`t bring 70+ members gang and fight with this big gang - we just don't like this sort of ''battles''. It's not a fight against ur enemy, it's fight against a LAG.
C u in space.
First Corak post that makes sense and I can agree with.
What's the world coming to.
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.10.16 12:26:00 -
[251]
Wasnt linking killboards forbidden?
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.10.16 12:29:00 -
[252]
wow .. good job RA.. nice to see the arrogance (5 WILL clear you out of our space blah blah)
being shot down .. as to the regular soldiers in 5: Good luck and have fun :)
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Pehova Mindtriq
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Posted - 2005.10.16 13:14:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Martin Mckenna
Edited by: Martin Mckenna on 16/10/2005 11:39:16
little movie to show people
Linkage
got pwned?! :)
I thought the eve community agreed that videos about shooting stations are very very very boring and therefor shouldn't be created.
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Robapin
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Posted - 2005.10.16 13:18:00 -
[254]
Thx RA and RAT :)
Robapin
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Deka Kador
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Posted - 2005.10.16 13:28:00 -
[255]
[5] should merge with ASCN
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zarc
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Posted - 2005.10.16 13:37:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Blacklight
Nice region, we'll take it!
That applies on so many levels here
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Kelene
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Posted - 2005.10.16 13:40:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Deka Kador
[5] should merge with ASCN
lol now that would be a force to be reckoned with
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Will Fireblade
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Posted - 2005.10.16 13:55:00 -
[258]
Anyone else feels this thread is pointless?
5 you are so full of ****
RA respect
Timezones, bad game mechanics say whatever the hell you want RA pwned...
The bad thing about 5 being loose is that now they can come to your space (kill a few miners etc etc) and log.. 5 Not having a 0.0 space gives the advantage for the time being as you can not counter attack their logoff tactics. Hail to empire wars.. Hope the war continues there.
/me wonders how long your funds will lust.
over and out
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BOPOBKA
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Posted - 2005.10.16 13:59:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Corak
Darko1107
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
and to all who is here
wach here
stan on boaed is RED kill 777 and loses 1388 OK
TAKE CALCULATOR = RED kills 1521 ([5] board is broken i think ) RED loses = 1498 .
its about totaly pawned RED from [5] .
want best info from RED about kills
wach this
Red Alliance [RED]
Kill points 72 770
+
Rage and Terror [RAT.]
Kill points 71 600
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.10.16 14:00:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 16/10/2005 11:25:41
Interesting... I wonder where the five is gonna hang out next...
1000 isk on NBSI !
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2005.10.16 14:02:00 -
[261]
Even though 5 are my enemies i must say i hate this current development in EVE.
Cold War - Preparation for the big onslaught?
No. With the numbers of Posses exploding and the worthlessness of dreads (many ppl still dont seem to know that they are atm) combined with totally boring old school politics.
Im back to Azeroth
-G- Pink Power
Darko1107 > so play a fluffy game
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Bizarre
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This thread makes me laugh. We have PA, F-E, NBSI, RA all beating their own chests on how [5] is defeated.
[5] have just done the smartest thing they could do. Their greatest weakness was the fact they had to defend 6-7 regions with only so many people. Well all that has just changed, I am surprised [5] has actually managed to hold onto so many regions for such a long time.
What we have now, is [5] turning back to their nomadic ways, like they did during their early days. Who's going to be the victim of that? All of the alliances beating their chests now.
One day you will wake up with a massive [5] fleet in your core systems and you won't have a choice but to fight them because a counter-attack on their home regions won't work anymore.
gg PA, F-E, NBSI and all those other alliances wanting a piece of the pie now, you have just signed your own deathwish. The north has never been able to master the political mindgames.
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Fargas
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Posted - 2005.10.16 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bizarre
We have PA, F-E, NBSI, RA all beating their own chests on how [5] is defeated.
Quote RA beating chest on how .5. is defeated. Until this STFU, OK?
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Will Fireblade
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Posted - 2005.10.16 14:50:00 -
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Originally by: Bizarre
This thread makes me laugh. We have PA, F-E, NBSI, RA all beating their own chests on how [5] is defeated.
[5] have just done the smartest thing they could do. Their greatest weakness was the fact they had to defend 6-7 regions with only so many people. Well all that has just changed, I am surprised [5] has actually managed to hold onto so many regions for such a long time.
What we have now, is [5] turning back to their nomadic ways, like they did during their early days. Who's going to be the victim of that? All of the alliances beating their chests now.
One day you will wake up with a massive [5] fleet in your core systems and you won't have a choice but to fight them because a counter-attack on their home regions won't work anymore.
gg PA, F-E, NBSI and all those other alliances wanting a piece of the pie now, you have just signed your own deathwish. The north has never been able to master the political mindgames.
You are right about one thing this thread makes me wanna laugh too.
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dj lightning
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Posted - 2005.10.16 14:56:00 -
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/me passes [5] a tech 2 tissue
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Hassis
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Posted - 2005.10.16 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Fargas
Originally by: Bizarre
We have PA, F-E, NBSI, RA all beating their own chests on how [5] is defeated.
Quote RA beating chest on how .5. is defeated. Until this STFU, OK?
I second it. Bizarre think before you post please.
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Dezra
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Posted - 2005.10.16 15:09:00 -
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ROFL @ this thread, pure comedy. GG RA
"We got bored" LMAO.
Oh and i¦m sure the "north", will be shaking in its boots, at the thought of the "mighty" [5] fleet of smacktalkers coming to get them.
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zarc
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Posted - 2005.10.16 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Bizarre
This thread makes me laugh. We have PA, F-E, NBSI, RA all beating their own chests on how [5] is defeated.
[5] have just done the smartest thing they could do. Their greatest weakness was the fact they had to defend 6-7 regions with only so many people. Well all that has just changed, I am surprised [5] has actually managed to hold onto so many regions for such a long time.
What we have now, is [5] turning back to their nomadic ways, like they did during their early days. Who's going to be the victim of that? All of the alliances beating their chests now.
One day you will wake up with a massive [5] fleet in your core systems and you won't have a choice but to fight them because a counter-attack on their home regions won't work anymore.
gg PA, F-E, NBSI and all those other alliances wanting a piece of the pie now, you have just signed your own deathwish. The north has never been able to master the political mindgames.
Brown nose's ftw
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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.10.16 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: dantes inferno on 16/10/2005 15:22:00
well if the 5 do go after the northen alliances who are glaoting here i cant wait to hear there whines on the forums in the weeks to come, as some one has already mentioned in this thread "you reap what you sow"...nice way to dig a hole for yourselves.
This on a whole is a good move for the 5 imo, now they dont have to worry about playing the POS game anymore they can go back to doing what they enjoy the most...gl and have fun.
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Amon Evakrace
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Posted - 2005.10.16 15:43:00 -
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What a load of pish |
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.10.16 15:57:00 -
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We'll see what the future holds
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.10.16 15:58:00 -
[272]
hmmm...
if this was planned a week ago...
and a week ago MC went and started clearing out geminate...
and geminate was considered a good dreadnaught highway to the north...
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.16 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
hmmm...
if this was planned a week ago...
and a week ago MC went and started clearing out geminate...
and geminate was considered a good dreadnaught highway to the north...
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
^^
I love speculation...
and Drunkenone ofc 
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Raver Baby
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Posted - 2005.10.16 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Amon Evakrace
What a load of pish
Exellent sum'd it all up in one word :D
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Marion Quicksilver
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Posted - 2005.10.16 17:04:00 -
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The NAP between CWRA and The Five was broken over my back, or rather that of my Typhoon, in a blue-on-blue ganking. Accordingly, I take much personal satisfaction in this outcome.
In the end, thanks to The Five for stirring the CWRA beast and to RA for the good times we've had nailing the Five together. Here's to the future.
Regards,
Marion Quicksilver
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2005.10.16 17:35:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Bizarre
One day you will wake up with a massive [5] fleet in your core systems and you won't have a choice but to fight them because a counter-attack on their home regions won't work anymore.
gg PA, F-E, NBSI and all those other alliances wanting a piece of the pie now, you have just signed your own deathwish. The north has never been able to master the political mindgames.
Hey mate,i could agree with you if i shared your play style/attitude on the game. When i was forced to leave my first 0.0 home,i decided it's not worth it to get that worked up over it. A lot of people in my alliance think the same,it's only means to an end.
We were in the south,we moved north and shot some people,then we had a chance to help them against a new alliance,fixed our relations with them and took a small piece of the pie,that's it. As long as i can NPC for some ships to take out and lose,i don't mind. And if it don't have any 0.0 space for me,i can group up with 2-3 people and do lvl4's,buy new ships and go lose them again.
We don't really have to fight anyone we don't want to. We can just move to where the grass is greener. We only do 2-3 things: stand by our mates,shoot anyone we feel like it's fun doing so,and just leave when it gets boring or expensive. If we wake up with a [5] fleet in our core systems as you say,we'll just stay until all our ships are spent,and then move somewhere else. So much for signing a deathwish,or whatever. We're entitled to our own opinions about the [5],it's a public forum,you get my drift i think.
Not everyone takes the game that seriously to have dependencies on what/how much space we claim/hold. It's all about fun,and i was having a blast in our fights against -V-
I'm inactive due to RL lately,just following forums and such,but i can't say i share the vision of doom a roaming band of [5] pilots everyone else thinks will be. As a matter of fact,i'm scratching my left one thinking about it
Having a different playstyle i don't care much about theirs, but i sure find it funny that it all came to this. As for political mindgames and games in general,there's only one mandate in history: Empires rise and fall like the swing of the pendulum comes and goes. Some alliance dies,some other is born,in the long run it's "big deal dude,let's go get a beer". I pay 15 a month to play a game,not get a second job.
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qtip
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Posted - 2005.10.16 18:28:00 -
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POS > PVP ?
Looks like this is the day the carebears took over :<
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.16 18:35:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 16/10/2005 18:37:01
Originally by: ****take
Originally by: Avon
I must be missing something here, because some of the posts seem a bit left field to me.
RA made good use of a bad game mechanic.
Before you flame me for that, read on.
5 had the same mechanics to work with, but could not make it work for them in the same way as RA, so props to RA.
There are two real issues as I see it.
Firstly, timezone.
Now this is a constant problem not only with Eve, but with any PvP game which encourages grouping. It is only natural to group with people who are awake when you are!
The reason that timezone gets noted as an issue here is because it amplifies the second issue.
POS balance.
The time balance between anchoring a POS and destroying it is way out.
I have no issue with a fully active POS being a PITA to remove, but the same should not be true of a tower on its own.
So, with these two issues we are in a position where claiming space is about anchoring or destroying towers. It isn't really about combat because of the timezone issue.
With the current POS time balance, the game favours the people who can put up more POS, not destroy more.
Undoubtedly this will be balanced at some point (I don't think that CCP want 1 guy in an indy being > POS siege fleet), but until then alliances like RA will have the upper hand. I can understand 5's descision - it must have been hard to make, and I can respect RA's ability.
Personally I would be with 5 on this one, simply because I'd rather PvP than PvE, but RA used the best tactic under the current game mechanics.
What you call "bad game mechaincs" are merely game mechanics which do not suit YOURs or 5's style of gameplay. You say you would rather PvP instead of PvE, nobody is stopping you from doing that, you just can't do ALL PvP and expect to claim multiple regions and maintain a claim on those regions.
The game has changed. Alliances who rely mostly on PvP with little-to-no industrial base to support their claim on space are goign the way of the dinosaur.
You must have balance, you said it yourself, but the balance is a good PvP force AND a strong industrial base and NOT your idea of balance, which is tipping the scales back to a style of gameplay you liked in the past because YOU won.
The removal of 5 from their own space by losing the industrial war is a "clarion call" to those alliance who believe PvP is everythign and industry is for the weak. Time to rethink.
I think you missed my point.
I understand 100% that industry is as vital as actual PvP to win a war.
The problem as I see it (bad mechanics) is the difference between the effort needed to anchor a POS and the effort required to remove it.
One man and his indy can wizz about planting towers at will, on his own, quickly.
One man (even in a dread) takes much longer to destroy said tower.
Add defences to the the tower (still a one man job), and you exponentially increase the time and manpower requirements to remove the POS.
These 'bad mechanics' give the side which plants a tower a huge advantage over the side which would remove them. Far out of proportion to the effort, risk, and logistics required.
RA used this to their advantage (and there is nothing wrong with that - its in the game), so props to them.
However, it is clear that 5 were no longer willing to deploy their assets when the game mechanics are so clearly in need of balancing, which is understandable.
Now, some here may question my opinion that the current system is unbalanced, or claim that I am only saying so to in some way defend 5. The fact of the matter is that this unbalance has been pointed out frequently on these forums.
Before you flame my opinion of the situation, consider how your alliance would react if this was happening to them.
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Nolan Moon
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Posted - 2005.10.16 18:49:00 -
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Well done! This is probably the creepiest picture I've ever seen.
Don't know (or care) about who "won", but here's hoping everyone involved (or not) has more fun next month than last month.
Seriously, good job on the photochopping.
Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
Edited by: StiZum Hilidii on 15/10/2005 22:20:51
Free at last! Free at last! Thank CCP Almighty, we are free at last!
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Komolov
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Posted - 2005.10.16 18:56:00 -
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Almost 3 months have passed after this press release. I'm enjoying once again reading it.
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JimmySav
Amarr
Arcane Technologies
The Five Posted - 2005.07.29 16:39:00 - [1]
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Today RA's final station, the aptly named "Stalingrad" was captured by [5] forces in JLO. This action followed a crushing fleet victory in M53 yesterday, lead by courageous ATUK fleet commander Stizum Hilidi.
Showing his trademark coolness in the heat of battle, Stizum, callsign 'Stan' left the fleet to start an impromptu NPCing (No Profit for Corp) session. Unfortunately for him the pirates proved more of a threat than the RA menace, and the fleet had to rescue him after the RA fleet had been disposed of.
[5] call on RA to admit that their position is no longer tenable in
in our space and to leave as soon as they can.
[5] just want to be left in peace to mine and carebear and have drug addled 'crash parties' and as such resent the intrusion of RA and their RAT and CELES allies.
[5] welcome applications from corporations wanting to operate in our space. The main attributes of such a corporation should be honesty and obedience, a lesson that RA should have learned earlier.
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Krazow
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Posted - 2005.10.16 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Elenia Kheynes
Originally by: APOC UK
To be fair. what ccp have done is a good thing its simply saying to everyone that no true empire can live without a good industry backing it.
RA are committed players and have an excelent industry therefore they are very difficult to break down.
Kudos to both sides
APOC UK, I've seen what u've done. I've seen how you are.
Your alliance failed you. You alliance disbanded. But you fought. You tried to stand againt overwhelming forces knowing you didn't have a chance.
THIS is also your victory. The sacrifices you did will never be forgotten by me. I know which role you played. And I'll never forget it
You've been a part of the resistance. Thank you And I hope some people will remember your sacrifice in this war from the beginning.
Well said, FSA will not be forgotten.
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Shittake
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Posted - 2005.10.16 19:09:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Avon
Edited by: Avon on 16/10/2005 18:37:01
I think you missed my point.
I understand 100% that industry is as vital as actual PvP to win a war.
The problem as I see it (bad mechanics) is the difference between the effort needed to anchor a POS and the effort required to remove it.
One man and his indy can wizz about planting towers at will, on his own, quickly.
One man (even in a dread) takes much longer to destroy said tower.
Add defences to the the tower (still a one man job), and you exponentially increase the time and manpower requirements to remove the POS.
These 'bad mechanics' give the side which plants a tower a huge advantage over the side which would remove them. Far out of proportion to the effort, risk, and logistics required.
RA used this to their advantage (and there is nothing wrong with that - its in the game), so props to them.
However, it is clear that 5 were no longer willing to deploy their assets when the game mechanics are so clearly in need of balancing, which is understandable.
Now, some here may question my opinion that the current system is unbalanced, or claim that I am only saying so to in some way defend 5. The fact of the matter is that this unbalance has been pointed out frequently on these forums.
Before you flame my opinion of the situation, consider how your alliance would react if this was happening to them.
Perhaps I did miss your point and I'm sorry if I did. BUT I do not believe a straight comparison between the ease of anchoring POSes and the difficulty of removing them points to an imbalance in game mechanics. Claimed space should be tough to take, requiring considerable industrial and military resources, or else everyone would just waltz in and claim your space.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.10.16 19:20:00 -
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To a large degree I feel the 5's pain. Massive pre-nerfing of dreads and the stalwartness of POS's are creating the precise situation the original poster is lamenting.
Again, to Tomb, UN-NERF dreads and let's get this thing called Exodus\Cold War going again.
How to Un-nerf dreads:
1) Remove cyno fields from local and the map.
2) Reduce jump drive fuel requirements
3) Increase Jump drive ranges so current max ranges can be adjusted so that former max ranges can be reached at skill level < 5 on the appropriate skill.
Let's just DO THIS NOW :)
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2005.10.16 19:25:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Raver Baby
Originally by: Amon Evakrace
What a load of pish
Exellent sum'd it all up in one word :D
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pish?
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:36:00 -
[285]
Edited by: Avon on 16/10/2005 20:37:20
Originally by: ****take
Perhaps I did miss your point and I'm sorry if I did. BUT I do not believe a straight comparison between the ease of anchoring POSes and the difficulty of removing them points to an imbalance in game mechanics. Claimed space should be tough to take, requiring considerable industrial and military resources, or else everyone would just waltz in and claim your space.
I agree that taking down a fully equiped POS should be hard.
The same does not apply to just a tower.
Unfortuantely it is currently all to easy to put up just a tower, and then takes ages to destroy it.
That is the problem with the current system.
You are rightly concerned that if POS were too easy to destroy it would be too easy to move in and claim space .. but as it stands now it is even easier to take space by just errecting lots of small towers.
Add to this that your enemy will not be online when you are, and suddenly errecting towers is far too rewarding for the effort required.
Placing towers + no resistance = easy & quick.
Removing towers = slow, and possible resistance (POS GUNS if equiped) even if your foe are offline.
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Professor McFly
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:42:00 -
[286]
Interestingly, many of the people who are against player controlled sentry guns in 0.0 "because players should control 0.0 and not npcs" don't seem to mind the idea of PoSes doing the same thing...
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LWMaverick
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:49:00 -
[287]
Where's the love ??
/Mav
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:03:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Avon
Placing towers + no resistance = easy & quick.
Yet there is absolutely nothing stopping those who are in control of a region raising their own horde of small towers as a preventative measure, is it?
I'm not convinced that the system is broken at all. It might need tweaking, but what it needs most is a bit more experience.
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Kcel Chim
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:13:00 -
[289]
Edited by: Kcel Chim on 16/10/2005 21:17:29
just saying gg RA and cya on the field
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Logan Williams
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:35:00 -
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I guess all the kids got tired of sitting in 7'th period wondering what the adults were doing while they were in school or perhaps what the adults were doing while the kids were doing homework. Face it kids, mum and dad are right. Even if your parents can't spank you inside a game environment, someone else's can.
Gl to you in the future.
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Shayla Sh'inlux
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:36:00 -
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I agree the PoS sitation is kinda lame. Otoh, [5] could put up just as many as RA if it is indeed that easy. You gotta admit five regions was a bit more than you could handle. I'm pretty sure you could hold on to two or three easily.
I fail to see how three alliances are 'chest-beating' about defeating [5] when one members makes a practical joke in a killmail.
I fail to see how this will change Eve, since [5] never were in Curse etc in the first place; they were shooting stuff all over the place.
I wish good luck the [5] in their future endaviours and I hope we will get fun fights against them instead of the slugfests/safespot/running/forum warring (from both sides, mind you) of late.
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Pudder
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:41:00 -
[292]
Wow 11 pages almost unheard of on this forum. Kind of funny that we get 11 pages when there are few posts form the 5.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:45:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Pudder
Wow 11 pages almost unheard of on this forum. Kind of funny that we get 11 pages when there are few posts form the 5.
Yes, because they only smack right? I mean, it must only be smacking if you disagree with what is being said. Because, if you believe what someone is saying, despite how it is stated, it cannot possibly be smack, correct?
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JoCool
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:48:00 -
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We should donate dreadnoughts to 5. Then you can own RA's pos one after the other, that'll teach them.
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Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel!
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.10.16 22:07:00 -
[295]
Originally by: JoCool
We should donate dreadnoughts to 5. Then you can own RA's pos one after the other, that'll teach them.
I dont think those useless tincans AKA Dreads have helped anyone since they were introducd.
Originally by: Blind Fear
Generally, when trying to be a puppetmaster, it is considered good form not to wrap the strings around your neck and choke yourself.
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Vince Draken
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Posted - 2005.10.16 22:07:00 -
[296]
Originally by: JoCool
We should donate dreadnoughts to 5. Then you can own RA's pos one after the other, that'll teach them.
[5] already has 10+ at their disposal. The ships just arent worth using...
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Baun
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Posted - 2005.10.16 22:11:00 -
[297]
...... and down will come stanny, cradle and all.
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.10.16 22:30:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Baun
...... and down will come stanny, cradle and all.
Now now Baun, I don't think you should be talking about any cots, cradles, toys or tantrums, not after the way you reacted to a little map change. It should suprise me that you pipe up in a thread that doesn't concern you, yet you seem rather absent in Geminate.
Some things really do never change.
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.10.16 23:17:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Baun
...... and down will come stanny, cradle and all.
Now now Baun, I don't think you should be talking about any cots, cradles, toys or tantrums, not after the way you reacted to a little map change. It should suprise me that you pipe up in a thread that doesn't concern you, yet you seem rather absent in Geminate.
Some things really do never change.
Doesn't concern me either Dianabolic but what can I say, I think your cute...
Hooch, General Pain, Mister Star Trek, Forum Warrior, and BoB lover
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Rubn Tug
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Posted - 2005.10.17 00:00:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Komolov
Almost 3 months have passed after this press release. I'm enjoying once again reading it.
Quote:
JimmySav
Amarr
Arcane Technologies
The Five Posted - 2005.07.29 16:39:00 - [1]
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Today RA's final station, the aptly named "Stalingrad" was captured by [5] forces in JLO. This action followed a crushing fleet victory in M53 yesterday, lead by courageous ATUK fleet commander Stizum Hilidi.
Showing his trademark coolness in the heat of battle, Stizum, callsign 'Stan' left the fleet to start an impromptu NPCing (No Profit for Corp) session. Unfortunately for him the pirates proved more of a threat than the RA menace, and the fleet had to rescue him after the RA fleet had been disposed of.
[5] call on RA to admit that their position is no longer tenable in
in our space and to leave as soon as they can.
[5] just want to be left in peace to mine and carebear and have drug addled 'crash parties' and as such resent the intrusion of RA and their RAT and CELES allies.
[5] welcome applications from corporations wanting to operate in our space. The main attributes of such a corporation should be honesty and obedience, a lesson that RA should have learned earlier.
Yeah, [5] push out RA. [5] take sovereignty. [5] decide occupation through POS managed sovereignty sucks. [5] withdraw respectfully conceding that it's not nearly worth the effort. Northern alliances jump on bandwagon, some spewing posts as bad as all the [5] flamage we typically see (yet don't see now amazingly enough).
Respect to RA for stamina in the POS cold war - apparently that's quite an accomplishment. Nice movie, but I'm not convinced at all that RAT really had any effect on anything tbh. Northern alliances finally working together, with their fair share of forum warriors riding RA coat-tails. FUN! My business is about to boom. Thanks.
Cap Recharger IIs for sale now in HLW.
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KSUDruid
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Posted - 2005.10.17 00:23:00 -
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Originally by: Afrodite Etnellag
To sum up, you where once the muppets of ASCN, you intentionally or unintentional helped the NEW XETIC=ASCN and their plans to come true (I donÆt know if this just happened or it was planned. Well who gives a s..t, the outcome is the same).
ItÆs just too weird, a CLS shoots down a shinra hauler, you then began the attack against XETIC, xetic falls, CLS+DDC form a new alliance and then you make them your friends (wtf??). WOW thatÆs politics my friend!
Not only wrong, but completely wrong. The story of the ASCN/XF/NBSI/FIVE has been played over and over like a bad soap opera rerun tons of times in these forums.
Bad Alt. Do not pass go, Do not collect 200 Dollars.
Thx4playin'
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Afrodite Etnellag
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Posted - 2005.10.17 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: KSUDruid
Originally by: Afrodite Etnellag
To sum up, you where once the muppets of ASCN, you intentionally or unintentional helped the NEW XETIC=ASCN and their plans to come true (I donÆt know if this just happened or it was planned. Well who gives a s..t, the outcome is the same).
ItÆs just too weird, a CLS shoots down a shinra hauler, you then began the attack against XETIC, xetic falls, CLS+DDC form a new alliance and then you make them your friends (wtf??). WOW thatÆs politics my friend!
Not only wrong, but completely wrong. The story of the ASCN/XF/NBSI/FIVE has been played over and over like a bad soap opera rerun tons of times in these forums.
Bad Alt. Do not pass go, Do not collect 200 Dollars.
Thx4playin'
can you specify what exactly is wrong?i mean this is my personal opinion and the point of view that I SEE, if you would like to explain whats wrong and whats right(for you) then we might have a reason to argue
Anyways i never said that DDC and CLS had bad intentions, Xetic was full of carebears and pathetic characters, that the only thing that cared about was the amount of isk they had in their wallet
You wanted to liberate iraq but you did it the wrong way
My opinion!
thats my personal opinion,nothing more nothing less
monopoly is bad for your health.
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Pleiades Ailurus
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Posted - 2005.10.17 02:20:00 -
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Edited by: Pleiades Ailurus on 17/10/2005 02:25:55
I am worried that the only people on this thread who seem to understand the game are mainly from Evol and other BOB people.
Some of you really look silly argueing with people who have been here years longer than you.
(aside.... hey Evol i have been skilling up will you have me now)
A POS war is like the first world war when it bogged down in the trenches and armored positions .. everyone dies of boredom and the rot they catch from having their feet in water the whole time.
BlitzKreig worked in the second world war worked for the Germans until they ran out of territory. They then had to defend fixed territory "fortress europe" and lost.They lost becuase of running out of equipment and men. They lost the Industrial war.
Dont any of you "experts" study the past wars.
If EvE is about fun then 5 will be having more this way. I also dont pay $Au20 a month to sit in stations
I also noticed lack of 5 posts .. but what do they need to say .. they said it .. POS war is not fun. RA people also said same thing here. Why are all the smacktalkers people who were not in the conflict.
And as I said earlier it shows that they have disciplined members not like the rabble here.
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ragolitan
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Posted - 2005.10.17 02:28:00 -
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I like Five - you are good man.
Let's continue. Killall -9 )
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2005.10.17 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
lol you want a tissue?
SIGNED
Blaming your loss on ccp? that's all I got out of that. I rarely follow this alliance bs, but please -- just accept that you lost or whatever. Don't get all high and mighty and *blame CCP* lol wtf. CRY ME A RIVER.
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
In short:
Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
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joseph stalin
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Posted - 2005.10.17 03:22:00 -
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omfg, lets whine more and blame ccp for everything, cause the 5 will show us how this game was meant to be. suck it up and shutup
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Oiri Yusko
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Posted - 2005.10.17 03:49:00 -
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A voice from above has told me that this thread has run it's course.
*click*
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