Is SOV grind boring because nullblocks only attack far weaker opponents that don't defend their space?

What if people actually attacked the powerful? Wouldn't null be fun again?

So you challenge those who claim that structure grinds are boring... to grind more structures?

You misunderstand.

When you attack someone powerful, grinding structures is the last thing you'll be doing.

we clearly have no experience with

Hey look guys, the person who has been in Imperial Academy for 9 years is telling us how things work.

Well maybe you do learn things in an academy...

why do you whine about things that happen or don't happen in space that in your words is irrelevant and does not matter for the rest of eve

Hey look guys, the person who has been in Imperial Academy for 9 years is telling us how things work.

Wait waaaa? If this is true we are going to lose our space. Ohhhh nooo! I think I'll get on the phone and call PL and GSF to come halp us. Ohhhh wait they are already grinding our space. Ohhh well back to high sec I guess.

i go out for half an hour, and come back and see another one of these threads?

**** me guys, the horse is dead, half eaten by crows, and sunk in to the mud. stop flogging it.

Well SOV grind itself is boring no matter who it is.

Your alliance lives in Delve. It is inevitable.

I read somewhere that GSF setup TEST in delve so they would not have to re-invade every years.

Dunno about that. Some guys I know went out a couple of weeks ago and literally reinforced every 401k structure in Venal in a couple of hours.

There was a party atmosphere on comms, there was a live TV feed so interested players who are not in 0.0 can see how stuff like this is done... (and of course we could watch ourselves on TV, which is probably clinically narcissistic)

and, oh yeah, there were 1300 of us including over 300 big things that move slow.

I sometimes tihnk that people don't really GET how big 0.0 alliances operate. The DRF did the same thing a couple of years ago when they attacked in Tribute. At their peak they could literally reinforce an entire region... all the towers, all the stations... everything. in a scope of one operation.

Grinding the structures isn't the slow part of it....at ALL... not when you work on a nullsec scale. It's the fact that actually *taking* a system means the enemy comes and fights and sometimes will keep fighting right down to the last stealth bomber. It means you're fighting over and over again to gain every inch.

OMG... that started sounding like how wars work....

see where I'm going? The SOV mechanics in themselves are fine. Working as intended. The part that gets demotivating is that you can't just steamroll through a region on a tidal wave of instant gratification, which is what a lot of EVE players seem to expect.

That said, I think SOV mechanics can be improved to add content to the game but I"m not unhappy at ALL with how they work. Some of you should have been around in the old days when SOV grinding really DID suck.

You mean back in the day, when DRF jammed the systems with 1000 supers to where the only counter was 1200 supers?

continue to enlighten us on the nuances of 0.0 warfare that, unlike you, we clearly have no experience with

is that rustling sound i hear the sound of tinfoil folded in to the shape of a hat?

Is it possible for a goon to reply without sounding like a douche?

That post was given all the respect it deserved.

Why all the Goon hate?

Is SOV grind boring because nullblocks only attack far weaker opponents that don't defend their space?

What if people actually attacked the powerful? Wouldn't null be fun again?

I am not sure why people hate them so damn much. My guess is because they are jealous of thier success. They are good at using the game mecanics/rules to thier advantage. All they do is technically available to everyone but most people are too lazy to put the effort into it so they would rather cry about how goons are evil for dominating one thing or another insetad of putting the effort into getting thier own share of the pie. This kind of hate is present IRL too anyway so it's not all that surprising to see in a game.

We're members of a somewhat insular community that started playing a particular videogame together. So who cares when some of the dumber residents of the game start unironically comparing us to ******? Copy the chatlogs and post them on the forums for all to enjoy.

Telling them how they're wrong is bad for everyone's entertainment.

is that rustling sound i hear the sound of tinfoil folded in to the shape of a hat?

Grinding sov is boring not only because shooting structures is boring, but because it's not just one grind to get thru. You can usually get people behind taking a system or two before fatigue sets in. Goofy timer settings turn Eve into a job by literally making people set alarm clocks and sometimes, skip work. It also takes very little counter attack to upset an invasion- which sounds okay, but in practical terms it amounts to griefing more than epic PvP.

It's the sum of it's parts that makes it a hard sell to get alliances off to war. There are fewer FC's than people think, and they get burnt out, much less the new guy who's dreams of epic space war amounts to orbiting a POS and spamming F1....for hours.....for days....

That is why DaBigRedBoat is the CFC's ultraweapon in sovereignty based conflicts.

And he even tells stories when you shoot sov structure

If you think that warfare in 0.0 is so entertaining why don't you step up and start up your own little coalition and do it yourself instead of depending on other people for content?