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Arcano Dentist 4 Horseman 8	Posted - 2013.05.17 15:24:00 - [1] - Quote For a little over a year I have been running 4's with a Sentry Domi Sniper fit. I haven't even come close to losing a ship in a long time, thanks more now to the MJD. But, alas, it's getting a bit boring, just sitting there. Someone was in chat earlier talking about a Loki. Something about the sig/Arm.Shield just doesn't add up to me as being a good PVE ship. I'm sure it is, I just don't know about it. So I am asking the more knowledgeable players here if a Loki is Lvl 4 doable? I'd just like to try something different for a while, something that "moves" without getting out of my comfort zone of knowing my ship is going to return to the station pretty much unhurt. Any ideas or feedback?
Aeril Malkyre Knights of the Ouroboros 229	Posted - 2013.05.17 15:55:00 - [2] - Quote Here's a fit I've kicked around, but never run with. It would certainly be more active than your Domi, but it would probably be slower when chewing through big targets. It has 80% of the EHP of my Vargur (super resists), does about 60% of the damage. Of course it's much much faster and smaller sig, so you can slalom in and out of targets without much trouble. PWG is tight for the LSE, hence the ACR rig. I certainly think you could do it, you'll just use a reasonable amount of ammo. Probably not Machariel levels of ammo, but healthy. As for coming back, it's a tough little ship. Webs/scrams (and painters if you're facing Angels) are of even more concern because your mobility is part of your tank. But with that much tracking, DPS, and the size of guns, frigs should be easy prey. [Loki, Level 4?] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II 10MN Afterburner II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Booster II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M 425mm AutoCannon II, Fusion M [Empty] Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Loki Offensive - Turret Concurrence Registry Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Arcano Dentist 4 Horseman 8	Posted - 2013.05.17 16:34:00 - [3] - Quote Thank you so much. I'm going to give it a try. And yes I should have mentioned my level 4's are mostly Angels. Thank you.
Yokai Mitsuhide Smegnet Corp 4054	Posted - 2013.05.17 16:55:00 - [4] - Quote Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Republic Fleet Tracking Enhancer Caldari Navy Invul Caldari Navy Invul Pithum B type medium shield booster Pith A type boost amp Gistum B type 10mn AB 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster Medium Projectile Metastasis Adjuster Medium Projectile Locus Coordinator Not too expensive Omni tanked 92.1/87.4/81/84.2 resists Cap stable 832m/s Sustained defense of 729 Adaptive Shielding Dissolution Sequencer Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Projectile Scoping Array Fuel Catalyst You could just replace the faction/dead space stuff with tech 2 mods and it will still perform quite well for level 4's
Thorne Zyman Between the lines 3	Posted - 2013.05.17 19:16:00 - [5] - Quote Unlike the rest of the T3 ships, the Loki does less dps and has less range than its race's field command ship. If you want to do Lvl 4 missions in a medium projectile ship I recommend the Sleipnir. If you're set on using a Loki, go for one with 6 turrets.
Ersahi Kir Infinite Mobility SpaceMonkey's Alliance 171	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:24:00 - [6] - Quote Loki's can do level 4's just fine, they're just do them slower than many of the alternatives.
Tsukino Stareine EVE University Ivy League 195	Posted - 2013.05.17 20:28:00 - [7] - Quote faction TEs and pith As, not expensive
Colonel T Ross Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.05.18 09:57:00 - [8] - Quote Yes the Loki is an excellent lvl4 mission runner, tiny sig, fast, melts all frigs as fast as you can lock them, simple to omni tank just turn on everything and leave it running with only an occasional bit of cap management, time to completion is great as the thing is so agile, has 50 m3 of drone space too and really does not need much pimpage to make all the above easily possible dependent on support skills of course. I keep the following Loki fit as a backup just for those missions where you want to quickly melt all frigs/cruisers/BCs, for BS get in close and use drones too, it really is not that much slower than even the best lvl4 mission runner ships. You do need to pilot the thing though 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Loki Defensive - Amplification Node Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
Oxide Ammar Aurora Security Transstellar Operations 5	Posted - 2013.05.18 10:58:00 - [9] - Quote [Loki, lvl 4 Loki fit] Domination Gyrostabilizer Domination Gyrostabilizer Domination Gyrostabilizer Domination Tracking Enhancer Corelum B-Type 10MN Afterburner Pith A-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Pithum B-Type Adaptive Invulnerability Field Gistum A-Type Medium Shield Booster 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M 425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M [Empty High slot] Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Dps/ Volley = 719/ 1353 using Hail M Speed= 820 m/s Cap = stable at 42% EM/ TH/ KI/ EX resist = 93.5/ 89.5/ 84.3/ 86.9 Est. Cost= 3.8 Bill ISK
Shereza Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 81	Posted - 2013.05.18 21:14:00 - [10] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: faction TEs and pith As, not expensive If you have the money and you don't need it for anything why not spend it on better equipment? Flaunting that equipment wherever you do missions isn't smart of course, but the gank bait factor is the only major concern module price has. The high price itself can be viewed as being somewhat amortized based on how many ships you plan on using that module on after all. I have a Gist A-Type XL booster I use on something like half a dozen different ships making it quite well worth the price, especially when one of those ships is my tengu.
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 1100	Posted - 2013.05.19 03:00:00 - [11] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: faction TEs and pith As, not expensive also extremely necessary with a 90m sig. "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF
loki energon Voodoo Children Workers Trade Federation 15	Posted - 2013.05.19 04:29:00 - [12] - Quote the thing i love about my mission loki, besides the tiny sig, the awesome speed, and the ridiculous resists, oh and the 600+ dps at 19km. is the fact that i can put a flight of lights, AND a flight of salvage drones.... makes this thing great for frig heavy missions, and even just random belt hopping on the way back from the WH after killing sleepers with the corp. 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II 425mm AutoCannon II Stalwart Shield Boost Amplifier Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Med Ancillary Shield Booster Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Internal Force Field I Loki Defensive - Amplification Node Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I i think i got it all right.... hard to remember when im not logged in. one last thought, this ship is not pimped at all it really is the ship itself and the combination of skills and subsystems that makes it work the mods themselves can be meta-ed as needed to conserve PG and CPU makes it a bit less of an issue to lose, and frankly a ganker might not want to lock onto mine if im in PVP mode... nuff said. kill em all.
Guido Tye RvB Industries 10	Posted - 2013.05.19 06:55:00 - [13] - Quote I use a Sleipnir for this personally, pretty much the exact same reason as you mentioned, makes lvl 4's far more fun to fly. Frigs - bc's are no issue whatsoever, and its more than capable or taking down BS's and moving around the field. Fitting a decent tank is fine all t2 if you dont mind not being stable, flys like a small mach, and works great with some pimp.
Liang Nuren Heretic Army Heretic Initiative 3582	Posted - 2013.05.19 07:30:00 - [14] - Quote I have used this fit for low sec plex running before and it worked pretty well. It's a lot less skill intensive than it used to be - required all fitting skills to 5, including projectile rigging. I figure it's probably possible to squeeze a web fit on there if I really wanted to, but I haven't really had any trouble with damage projection. The advice to get a Sleipnir over the Loki is sound if you feel safe in your space, but the Loki is much better at evading camps (refit for covops/interdiction nullifier) and the probe bonus is pretty nice. [Loki, 720 Loki] Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer 10MN Afterburner II Gistum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Shield Boost Amplifier II Shield Boost Amplifier II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M 720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet Fusion M Core Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers Hobgoblin II x5 -Liang Ed: BTW, I won't be surprised if this fit can be improved some now. I haven't updated it since the artillery fitting changes a while back. Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com PVP Videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/LiangNuren/videos Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren
xpl0de Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels 18	Posted - 2013.05.19 08:06:00 - [15] - Quote OP if i where u id forget the loki and sleip( for pvp anyways) and go with a mach. Ull never look back.

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