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Nero Synapse
Legion of Raiders
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:34:00 -
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Bored, Just thought I would stir the pot and ask what types of ships others would want to see/think will be rebalanced next?
Personally I'd like to see marauders redone to make them more relevant, as much of an open-ended statement that is. |
Nylith Empyreal
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
324
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:43:00 -
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Assuming tweaks fro the cs and the bs go through, HACs maybe marauders.
I think they'll probably start with t2 frigs and go up like they've done with the ships.
Who's the more foolish the fool or the fool who replies to him? |
Shaden Nightwalker
Tryblium Sanguinis
21
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:44:00 -
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I'd like to see another Black Ops rebalance (not necissarily a buff).
It is such a nice class, but mostly used as a bridging ship.
There are so many possibilities to make them awesome... |
Nero Synapse
Legion of Raiders
11
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:50:00 -
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Shaden Nightwalker wrote:I'd like to see another Black Ops rebalance (not necissarily a buff).
It is such a nice class, but mostly used as a bridging ship.
There are so many possibilities to make them awesome...
I can only imagine, As someone who has yet to use them (but could inject the skill at any time to start) I think in the right way black ops and marauders could add a lot of value to the battleship class, seeing as many people find BC's to be better alternatives for the price (especially after Odyssey from what I've read). of course they'll only be more expensive due to the increased cost of the T1 hulls, but oh well. |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1083
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:56:00 -
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I'd like to see certain AFs get a bit more speed, but I'm not so sure that's needed. Next up will probably be EAFs and HACs
CCP has no sense of humour. |
Anyura
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:22:00 -
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Phantasm wants hugs. |
baltec1
Bat Country
6469
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:24:00 -
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more faction, the t2 ships, capitals (oh god) and t3 cruiser (the nerfs will burn like the sun and the tears will flood the world) |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1083
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:t3 cruiser (the nerfs will burn like the sun and the tears will flood the world)
I can't wait.
CCP has no sense of humour. |
Stan'din
UK Corp
RAZOR Alliance
132
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:41:00 -
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Some Rando wrote:baltec1 wrote:t3 cruiser (the nerfs will burn like the sun and the tears will flood the world) I can't wait.
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Your about as much use as a condom dispenser in the Vatican. |
Thorne Zyman
Between the lines
3
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:43:00 -
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I'd like to see the recons redone with the t1 changes in mind.
Can't wait for a 4/6/5 Huginn with missile rof / painter and missile damage / web range bonuses. |
Danni stark
296
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:49:00 -
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it'll be the industrials, and they're doing a similar thing to mining barges.
so it'll be ****, and fail horribly.
Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
baltec1
Bat Country
6470
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:51:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:it'll be the industrials, and they're doing a similar thing to mining barges.
so it'll be ****, and fail horribly.
The exhumers are getting a slight nerf to their tank in the next patch. I dont think the miners have seen that change yet |
Some Rando
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
1083
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:54:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Danni stark wrote:it'll be the industrials, and they're doing a similar thing to mining barges.
so it'll be ****, and fail horribly. The exhumers are getting a slight nerf to their tank in the next patch
Covetor/Hulk and Retriever/Mackinaw need to trade tank as well, but with CCP pandering to the AFK crowd I doubt that'll happen.
tbh I'm curious how CCP will do ~trade-offs~ with industrials.
CCP has no sense of humour. |
Danni stark
296
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:01:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Danni stark wrote:it'll be the industrials, and they're doing a similar thing to mining barges.
so it'll be ****, and fail horribly. The exhumers are getting a slight nerf to their tank in the next patch. I dont think the miners have seen that change yet
what is it, 5% shield resist nerf? really not that big of a deal. to be honest, it'd be nice if exhumers had enough cpu/grid to fill all the slots but i guess reasonable fitting requirements are too much to ask. even more so for ice mining setups where you have more cpu hungry modules AND you lose a rig slot.
Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
baltec1
Bat Country
6470
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:03:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:
what is it, 5% shield resist nerf? really not that big of a deal. to be honest, it'd be nice if exhumers had enough cpu/grid to fill all the slots but i guess reasonable fitting requirements are too much to ask. even more so for ice mining setups where you have more cpu hungry modules AND you lose a rig slot.
We here at Bat country have run the maths and we are very much looking forwards to summer |
Danni stark
296
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:10:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Danni stark wrote:
what is it, 5% shield resist nerf? really not that big of a deal. to be honest, it'd be nice if exhumers had enough cpu/grid to fill all the slots but i guess reasonable fitting requirements are too much to ask. even more so for ice mining setups where you have more cpu hungry modules AND you lose a rig slot.
We here at Bat country have run the maths and we are very much looking forwards to summer
marvelous.
can i pay you in nitrogen isotopes for blue standings?
having said that, skiffs and procurers might finally find a use! because until now, they really haven't been a worth while ship to mine in.
Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Holgrak Blacksmith
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
104
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:20:00 -
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I am looking forward to marauder/pirate BSs being looked at. |
Charlie Jacobson
101
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:21:00 -
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Rattlesnake wants its "Special Ability: 50% bonus to Cruise Missile and Torpedo velocity" replaced with something useful. Cruise missiles already travel further than it can target before this bonus is applied, and with just 4 launchers and no damage bonus, it's not like these are really doing any worthwhile damage anyway. |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Smegnet Corp
4055
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Danni stark wrote:
what is it, 5% shield resist nerf? really not that big of a deal. to be honest, it'd be nice if exhumers had enough cpu/grid to fill all the slots but i guess reasonable fitting requirements are too much to ask. even more so for ice mining setups where you have more cpu hungry modules AND you lose a rig slot.
We here at Bat country have run the maths and we are very much looking forwards to summer
Looks like all that whining and complaining paid off for you guys. |
baltec1
Bat Country
6471
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:30:00 -
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Yokai Mitsuhide wrote:
Looks like all those valid points and real figures paid off for you guys.
Fixed that.
And no it hasnt, the skiff and procurer are still invalidated by the retreiver and mack and to a lesser extent the hulk and coveter are also outclassed by the mack and retreiver. The lineup is still unbalanced. |
Nex apparatu5
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
539
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:34:00 -
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Expect buffs across the board, except to T3s and capitals. Expect T3s to get anywhere from minor buffs (Legion, unused subsystems) to heavy nerfs (Tengu), caps will get nerfed, and supers/titans will get nerfhammered into the ground. |
stoicfaux
2707
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:34:00 -
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Freighters with slots and rigs. Why? because freighters are too predictable which is a limiting factor in light of CCP's let's get more peeps into low/null sec.
/IMHO.
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Stegas Tyrano
GLU CANU
Open Space Consultancy
451
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:35:00 -
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Do Marauders have any sort of PVP role? It feels wrong having ships in EVE that can't PVP.
Herping your derp since 19Potato --á[Proposal] - Ingame Visual Adverts |
baltec1
Bat Country
6471
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:35:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:Expect buffs across the board, except to T3s and capitals. Expect T3s to get anywhere from minor buffs (Legion, unused subsystems) to heavy nerfs (Tengu), caps will get nerfed, and supers/titans will get nerfhammered into the ground.
All t3s will be nerfed so they can fill their role as cruisers. |
baltec1
Bat Country
6471
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:36:00 -
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Stegas Tyrano wrote:Do Marauders have any sort of PVP role? It feels wrong having ships in EVE that can't PVP.
They work great untill ECM happens |
Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
299
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:37:00 -
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I'd love to see interceptors with specialties towards their role, maybe really unique bonuses.
One of which should be warp acceleration, so the ships can get to max warp speed faster than any other plus warp drive speed per level.
The other should be resistance to scrams (like MWD strength bonus, for instance) and/or webs.
This would bring them into a specialized role instead of really fast AF's or the like.
Hey, as a dude that lives in lowsec, you should read my idea on how to "fix" it... in Blog format, complete with a spreadsheet!
http://3xxxd.blogspot.com/2012/09/how-to-buff-lowsec.html |
Shadow Lord77
Shadow Industries I
286
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:21:00 -
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Capital ships bitches! Also tune cyno costs to be 10x or so of what they are now. |
Adunh Slavy
803
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:35:00 -
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Danni stark wrote:it'll be the industrials, and they're doing a similar thing to mining barges.
so it'll be ****, and fail horribly.
Hope not. Industrials have a lot of potential to be something more than just hauling ships. |
Danni stark
296
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:40:00 -
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Adunh Slavy wrote:Danni stark wrote:it'll be the industrials, and they're doing a similar thing to mining barges.
so it'll be ****, and fail horribly. Hope not. Industrials have a lot of potential to be something more than just hauling ships.
well.. here.
CCP Ytterbium wrote:We're changing the skill requirements for Industrials as with all other ships for Odyssey. However, the roles / attributes themselves will have to stay as they are for a while longer - we initially planed for them to go in the expansion as well, but they slipped out due to lack of time. Tech1 Industrial overhaul has a high priority on our balanc-o-meter though - once battleships are updated, they'll be the last tech1 sub-capital hulls that need to go through the Tiericide fires. Plans we have for them so far is to have the same kind of treatment than we've done with the Mining Barges. Have one Industrial variation with good mobility, low EHP and low cargo for quickly moving things around, another with low mobility, low EHP and high cargo for bulk transport and the last one with good defenses but poor mobility / cargo to compensate. Which of course poses a problem with Gallente industrials and their 5 variations - as CCP Fozzie keeps saying all the time, if all else fail we'll shuffle the last two unused Iteron variations to have a dedicated bay for Spiced Wine and Exoctic Dancers 
Ice Mining Skill Plan. |
Praetor Meles
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
80
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:43:00 -
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Nero Synapse wrote:Bored, Just thought I would stir the pot and ask what types of ships others would want to see/think will be rebalanced next?
Shuttles. Rebalance shuttles.
[insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving*
* delete as required to make your point |
YuuKnow
Terra-Formers
810
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Posted - 2013.05.17 20:52:00 -
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The entirity of the cap ship fleet and the 'endgame' is the elephant in the room. And probably a big reason that a lot of player (myself included) don't bother with null-sec. Cap warfare = yawn.
yk |
Throktar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
17
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:06:00 -
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Stegas Tyrano wrote:Do Marauders have any sort of PVP role? It feels wrong having ships in EVE that can't PVP.
Go watch a few Alliance Tournaments or the Sydicate Competitive League. They dominate in pvp if the situations are correct. I just think the price is what holds most folks back from using them in pvp. Same reason as most faction battleships aren't used as cannon fodder to the blob.
I can't wait for a Marauder buff. They will not get nerfed. I do think that they should be the dominate PvE ship of them all.
I also think Black Ops should be broken into subclasses, one focused on bridging the other on cloaky BS PvP.
I also would love to see all BS get about a 30% ehp buff accross the board. I still think the gap between BS and Dread EHP should be slightly closer.
Edit: I know these are dreams, but hey we can still hope right? lol |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
3920
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:36:00 -
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Will the DSTs be fixed? Will my Occator be useful once again? These things and more, Next on Winter Expansion.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Khemax
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:39:00 -
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I honestly would like to see all the various battleships sized vessels get rebalanced and rethought, to come more into line with the current state of the game
Black Ops and Marauders could do with a few adjustments |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy
Caldari State
281
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Posted - 2013.05.17 22:27:00 -
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Ill guess a navy drake nerf, normal drake nerf, and they will nerf the rapper drake, Just in case. |
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