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Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:47:00 -
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In my first couple of weeks of capsuleering I've made about 8 million ISK. I know that's nothing to you super-rich folks but personally I could easily just give up and go back planetside and retire on that. However, because I'm such a morally upstanding citizen, I feel the urge to do more for my society now that I'm in this position of power to generate far more income than I know what to do with.
It occurred to me that maybe I should join the Amarr militia and fight the good fight. However, while thinking about it I came up with some questions that my lack of experience means I could not answer for myself, and I will now put them to you good Amarr folk who know much more about these things than me:
1. How much of a threat is the minmatar forces, really? 2. If 1. is "not much", are more militia really needed? Would I be contributing meaningfully or just getting in the way? Is there somewhere else I could deploy myself more effectively? Or do we have the situation basically under control which means that I can go shopping for clothes and shoes and not worry? 3. I've heard that many Amarr militia talk in strange dialects that an Amarr girl of polite society like myself wouldn't understand. Any truth in this? I don't want to rub shoulders with uncouth lower-class feral types who can't express themselves properly and drool excessively. 4. I like the thought of helping the Empire but combat seems a bit icky. I can handle things blowing up in a ball of fire which would be kind of amazing actually but I don't want to see corpses depressurize, I think that would look gross. Am I forced to look at that? How much blood and guts is there? Also, does dying hurt? I'm not really into pain.
The last time I had questions on this forum, some of you genetically inferior specimens complained that I left you out, even though I made it clear that I wasn't addressing you anyway. So, to any minmatar reading, here are some bonus questions just for you, so you can be happy and complain less.
5. How much of a threat do you feel that you are to the Amarr empire? Serious question. 6. Is it the minimatar intention to take over the entire Empire, or just the dirty bits that look like the same colour as your ships? Because you can totally have those parts, I don't want them. I'm actually okay with that.
Thanks in advance to anyone who helps me out here.
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
2648
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:49:00 -
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Your previous thread suggests you don't even have a rudimentary understanding of starship engineering. So I'm going to say - joining the Amarr militia? For you, bad idea. For the TLF? Good idea. Best idea.
You should totally do it. Mane 614
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Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:52:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Your previous thread suggests you don't even have a rudimentary understanding of starship engineering. So I'm going to say - joining the Amarr militia? For you, bad idea. For the TLF? Good idea. Best idea.
You should totally do it.
Oh you are so witty.
I don't need to understand the engineering of ships that I'm never going to fly.
I'll take your feedback on board. |

Jenny Jupiter
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.05.17 15:56:00 -
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Well there's a surprise.
I thought you Amarr had to be held back from joining up and forcing your ridiculous beliefs on anyone unable to stand up to you. |

Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:02:00 -
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Jenny Jupiter wrote:Well there's a surprise.
I thought you Amarr had to be held back from joining up and forcing your ridiculous beliefs on anyone unable to stand up to you.
I'm not really that zealous. I think there's room for everybody in the galaxy. As long as the heathens are happy in their little corner doing whatever things that they do I think that's fine, why would I even go there. |

Jenny Jupiter
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:13:00 -
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Ha ha! You guys crack me up! |

Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:21:00 -
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Jenny Jupiter wrote:Ha ha! You guys crack me up!
I'm serious.
If other people want to play in the mud that's okay as long as I don't have to smell their feet.
Of course, my opinion is just my own and doesn't represent all Amarr or anything. I know others think different. |

Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
174
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:22:00 -
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Kim Ji-Young wrote:1. How much of a threat is the minmatar forces, really?
Two weeks ago they controlled every system in the warzone outside of Sahtogas.
Quote:2. If 1. is "not much", are more militia really needed? Would I be contributing meaningfully or just getting in the way? Is there somewhere else I could deploy myself more effectively? Or do we have the situation basically under control which means that I can go shopping for clothes and shoes and not worry?
More militia are always needed.
Quote:3. I've heard that many Amarr militia talk in strange dialects that an Amarr girl of polite society like myself wouldn't understand. Any truth in this? I don't want to rub shoulders with uncouth lower-class feral types who can't express themselves properly and drool excessively.
That would depend on who you fly with.
Quote:4. I like the thought of helping the Empire but combat seems a bit icky. I can handle things blowing up in a ball of fire which would be kind of amazing actually but I don't want to see corpses depressurize, I think that would look gross. Am I forced to look at that? How much blood and guts is there? Also, does dying hurt? I'm not really into pain.
Unless you're deliberately zooming your camera right into an enemy's ship when it explodes, you probably won't see anything like that.
Yes there is pain. Every time a shot strikes your hull there is pain. It is like being cut or stabbed. And dying is awful. |

Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:28:00 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:Answers
1. That is a bit scary. Do you think it could spill over to outside the warzone? That's what concerns me most.
2. Okay.
3. I suppose it would. So who are the real knuckle-draggers?
4. You're not really selling me much on this you know. |

Samira Kernher
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
175
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:34:00 -
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Kim Ji-Young wrote:Samira Kernher wrote:Answers 1. That is a bit scary. Do you think it could spill over to outside the warzone? That's what concerns me most.
It started outside the warzone, when the Elder Fleet invaded us. I do not doubt that the Republic may try similar actions if it feels they will be successful.
Quote:3. I suppose it would. So who are the real knuckle-draggers?
You would need to ask someone more experienced. Though I hear poor comments about Fweddit.
Quote:4. You're not really selling me much on this you know.
It's not about selling it. It is not about what you want, it is about serving and defending the Empire.
If you are selfless enough to do so, then you should do so. But if you are not then you should not. I am merely telling you the reality.
If you're looking for fun, look elsewhere. |

Jenny Jupiter
EVE University Ivy League
2
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:40:00 -
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Kim Ji-Young wrote:Jenny Jupiter wrote:Ha ha! You guys crack me up! Of course, my opinion is just my own and doesn't represent all Amarr or anything. I know others think different.
Now that is funny.
I didn't think you guys had opinions.
I stand corrected. |

Sixx Vicious
Fallen Supremacy
0
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Posted - 2013.05.17 16:42:00 -
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Kim Ji-Young wrote:
I think there's room for everybody in the galaxy.
The Federation could use someone like you.
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Rioghal Morgan
Full Artificial Intelligence
1
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:44:00 -
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Certainly, by all means, join the Amarr militia. They're having a moment in the sun right now so there won't be a better time to join for a long while once the Minmatar take the lost systems back.
Oh, and we are in no way threatening, me least of all. In fact, why don't you come by the Saidusairos-Kurniainen area and I'll show you just how friendly and harmless we are. |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
871
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Posted - 2013.05.17 17:48:00 -
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It looks to me like you've got all the qualifications the Empire is looking for these days, and based on you intelligent and astute postings you'll make Admiral in no time.
Or join PIE, you'll be running the place inside of a month.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |

Lysander Fairewell
State War Academy Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:40:00 -
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Sixx Vicious wrote:Kim Ji-Young wrote:
I think there's room for everybody in the galaxy.
The Federation could use someone like you.
Yes, the Federation thinks there's room for everybody in the galaxy.
As long as the Federation are the one's in charge of it all. |

Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard Amarr 7th Fleet
230
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:40:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:It looks to me like you've got all the qualifications the Empire is looking for these days, and based on you intelligent and astute postings you'll make Admiral in no time.
Or join PIE, you'll be running the place inside of a month.
Or start you're own corp and run it from day one. |

Liberty Roach
October Country
8
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:46:00 -
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I hear militia work is well nasty, and half the time you undock, some joker's gonna blow you arse over ****.
On the other hand they got these militia lotteries where you win shiny navy ships, and you gets to hang around Amarrian blokes in uniform. So it can't be all bad. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1482
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:55:00 -
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Kim Ji-Young wrote:In my first couple of weeks of capsuleering I've made about 8 million ISK. I know that's nothing to you super-rich folks but personally I could easily just give up and go back planetside and retire on that. However, because I'm such a morally upstanding citizen, I feel the urge to do more for my society now that I'm in this position of power to generate far more income than I know what to do with.
Buy a Retriever.
Kim Ji-Young wrote:How much of a threat is the minmatar forces, really?
You will be outnumbered three to one on a good day. Some will argue that's not the case based on enrollment numbers, but enrollment doesn't mean "active" and very, very few militia pilots are actually anymore. Those who are are either A) in massive fleet organizations that are very paranoid about taking in any new people/outsiders or B) still flying solo/small gang and getting constantly thumped due to the above mentioned bad odds.
So unless you've got an uncle or something in PIE then you can pretty much forget about being anything other than a cheap kill-mail for a gang of insufferably arrogant tribals.
Kim Ji-Young wrote: Would I be contributing meaningfully or just getting in the way? Is there somewhere else I could deploy myself more effectively? Or do we have the situation basically under control which means that I can go shopping for clothes and shoes and not worry?
The situation is basically screwed and that's exactly why you should just buy clothes.
Kim Ji-Young wrote:I've heard that many Amarr militia talk in strange dialects that an Amarr girl of polite society like myself wouldn't understand. Any truth in this? I don't want to rub shoulders with uncouth lower-class feral types who can't express themselves properly and drool excessively.
You're on IGS. Too late.
The day CCP codes together a bot program that slaps 30 day forum bans on anyone who says "can I have your stuff?" the overall average IQ of the EvE forums will quintuple overnight. |

Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
1482
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:55:00 -
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Kim Ji-Young wrote:The last time I had questions on this forum, some of you genetically inferior specimens complained that I left you out, even though I made it clear that I wasn't addressing you anyway. So, to any minmatar reading, here are some bonus questions just for you, so you can be happy and complain less.
You know the first time I heard people talking about "genetically inferior specimens" it was a Brutor warlord staring at my teeth right after I had just been captured by the Thukker fleet when they invaded my homeworld. In other words: Funny, you sound just like a Minmatar yourself right now.
Maybe you've been hanging out with too many blue bloods back on the core worlds, but these days the proper definition of "Amarrian" is "One who believes in the Amarr Faith." It doesn't matter if they're Khanid, Nu-Kunni, or Ammatar... heck, it doesn't even matter if they're Gallente or Caldari who've converted/joined our Faith.
All those of Amarrian Faith are Amarrian and don't you dare forget that.
Kim Ji-Young wrote:Is it the minimatar intention to take over the entire Empire, or just the dirty bits that look like the same colour as your ships?
The Empire? No. New Eden? Yes. And only if by "take over" you mean "exterminate all non-Matari life." Their goal is utter & complete genocide, plain and simple, first of us and then eventually everyone else who isn't of "superior tribal blood." The day CCP codes together a bot program that slaps 30 day forum bans on anyone who says "can I have your stuff?" the overall average IQ of the EvE forums will quintuple overnight. |

Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard Amarr 7th Fleet
232
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Posted - 2013.05.17 18:57:00 -
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Samira Kernher wrote:[quote=Kim Ji-Young][ Quote:3. I suppose it would. So who are the real knuckle-draggers? You would need to ask someone more experienced. Though I hear poor comments about Fweddit.
Unsure where you would of heard those from, Fweddit are just about the most upstanding members of the militia.
You'll find the real knuckle draggers are those who fight to the last to defend Sahtogas, the window lickers on the other hand are the ones sat in Kamela station calling for help and failing to undock to defend their home system
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Rodj Blake
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1364
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:09:00 -
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Is joining the Amarr militia a good idea?
That is the wrong question.
The right question is this: is it right to fight for God and His Empire, and in doing so protect the Amarrian way of life?
Answer that question and you will know what it is that you have to do.
Silas Vitalia wrote: Or join PIE, you'll be running the place inside of a month.
You really should get that obsession of yours sorted out. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilita Nera JIHADASQUAD
872
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:26:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote: You really should get that obsession of yours sorted out.
Make me.
Sabik now, Sabik forever |

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
466
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Posted - 2013.05.17 21:50:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Kim Ji-Young wrote:In my first couple of weeks of capsuleering I've made about 8 million ISK. I know that's nothing to you super-rich folks but personally I could easily just give up and go back planetside and retire on that. However, because I'm such a morally upstanding citizen, I feel the urge to do more for my society now that I'm in this position of power to generate far more income than I know what to do with. Buy a Retriever.
A Retriever is about 25-30 million, unfitted. She has 8 million. Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
431
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Posted - 2013.05.17 23:41:00 -
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Kim Ji-Young wrote: 1. How much of a threat is the minmatar forces, really?
As much as you can take. Analyzing and getting intel on targets before engagement is crucial to the success of operation.
Kim Ji-Young wrote: 2. If 1. is "not much", are more militia really needed? Would I be contributing meaningfully or just getting in the way? Is there somewhere else I could deploy myself more effectively? Or do we have the situation basically under control which means that I can go shopping for clothes and shoes and not worry?
Every effort counts. Even if you won't engage in direct combat with frontal and elite minmatar capsuleers, you can always help to patrol systems and defend Empire systems.
Kim Ji-Young wrote: 3. I've heard that many Amarr militia talk in strange dialects that an Amarr girl of polite society like myself wouldn't understand. Any truth in this? I don't want to rub shoulders with uncouth lower-class feral types who can't express themselves properly and drool excessively.
Indeed, military talk is somewhat hugely different from one of a polite society. Having experience in any military job before joining would be really helpful. Although it is really not that hard to learn it. You have ears to listen and brain to understand. And if it won't be enough, you can always ask.
Kim Ji-Young wrote: 4. I like the thought of helping the Empire but combat seems a bit icky. I can handle things blowing up in a ball of fire which would be kind of amazing actually but I don't want to see corpses depressurize, I think that would look gross. Am I forced to look at that? How much blood and guts is there?
Of course, when things are blowing up, it's not just metal, you see. But you don't have to watch at them, if you don't want to. Actually, in a combat situation you definitely shouldn't be looking at them. Your main concerns should be targets, orders, your and enemy formations. You should be aware of anything related that was happening around your ship. And someone's bowel that flies by is definitely not the thing you should concentrate your attention on. By being distracted on unrelated things you are risking losing important information and hesitation to act can cost your own, your crew and your fleet lives.
Kim Ji-Young wrote: Also, does dying hurt? I'm not really into pain. Pain is inevitable. Suffering is optional. |

Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:40:00 -
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Wow, so many replies, I'm so popular!
Samira Kernher wrote: It's not about selling it. It is not about what you want, it is about serving and defending the Empire.
If you are selfless enough to do so, then you should do so. But if you are not then you should not. I am merely telling you the reality of it.
I like the idea of serving the Empire but I just think exploded corpses are kind of gross. If one hits my window I swear I'm going to just freak right out if the guts are still hanging there when I dock.
Jenny Jupiter wrote:
Now that is funny.
I didn't think you guys had opinions.
I stand corrected.
While I'm at it, here's another opinion: those sunglasses really just aren't the right shape for your face.
Mra Rednu wrote: Or start you're own corp and run it from day one.
I thought about that but I don't know anything about running my own corporation. Seems awfully complicated when other members get involved, or I could just do a corporation of one that is simple but what's the point of that, people who do solo corporations are just stroking it, aren't they. Easier to just keep my Institute membership going and get the bar discount.
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Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:53:00 -
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Liberty Roach wrote:I hear militia work is well nasty, and half the time you undock, some joker's gonna blow you arse over ****.
On the other hand they got these militia lotteries where you win shiny navy ships, and you gets to hang around Amarrian blokes in uniform. So it can't be all bad.
Okay, starting to see the benefit.
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Buy a Retriever.
You will be outnumbered three to one on a good day. Some will argue that's not the case based on enrollment numbers, but enrollment doesn't mean "active" and very, very few militia pilots are actually anymore. Those who are are either A) in massive fleet organizations that are very paranoid about taking in any new people/outsiders or B) still flying solo/small gang and getting constantly thumped due to the above mentioned bad odds.
So unless you've got an uncle or something in PIE then you can pretty much forget about being anything other than a cheap kill-mail for a gang of insufferably arrogant tribals.
The situation is basically screwed and that's exactly why you should just buy clothes.
Can't afford a retriever. I'll accept donations though. Although I'd rather have decent clothing than a retriever. Why is good clothes for capsuleers so hard to get around here, we're so powerful and influential, we should liberate a system with some decent clothing warehouses, it's beyond a joke how few clothes we can get, and how expensive they are, plus they mostly look skanky and out of date. What do they take us for.
Joining a corp in the warzone sounds like a good idea but they'll probably all hate me because...
Katran Luftschreck wrote:All those of Amarrian Faith are Amarrian and don't you dare forget that.
...all these heavy Amarr folks take everything REALLY seriously and although I'm very loyal and diligent and pro-everything Amarr my sense of humour will probably rub them the wrong way and get me booted out and blacklisted within a week.
Katran Luftschreck wrote:The Empire? No. New Eden? Yes. And only if by "take over" you mean "exterminate all non-Matari life." Their goal is utter & complete genocide, plain and simple, first of us and then eventually everyone else who isn't of "superior tribal blood."
Don't they know about how genetics are in DNA and not blood? |

Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.18 00:54:00 -
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Kim Ji-Young wrote:editing
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Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2013.05.18 01:03:00 -
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[editing] |

Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
345
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:09:00 -
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If you cannot stand the idea of violence then I suggest you look elsewhere for employment opportunities. This is war and it will take a part of your innocence and idealism away, if not most of it.
You are clearly not ready to delve into this aspect of capsuleerhood. I suggest you either leave the life now or ease into your inevitable fate and enjoy what you have left of your innocence now.
That said, militia work is not for the selfish. When you join the 24th Imperial Crusade you are not doing it for yourself, but for the peoples of the Amarr Empire. You are there to protect them, not your queasy stomach. If you cannot get over that fact then do not bother. |

Kim Ji-Young
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
31
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Posted - 2013.05.18 02:14:00 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:If you cannot stand the idea of violence then I suggest you look elsewhere for employment opportunities. This is war and it will take a part of your innocence and idealism away, if not most of it.
You are clearly not ready to delve into this aspect of capsuleerhood. I suggest you either leave the life now or ease into your inevitable fate and enjoy what you have left of your innocence now.
That said, militia work is not for the selfish. When you join the 24th Imperial Crusade you are not doing it for yourself, but for the peoples of the Amarr Empire. You are there to protect them, not your queasy stomach. If you cannot get over that fact then do not bother.
I don't mind other people dying, I just don't want to see their bits floating by. If they can die nice and cleanly with all the gooey parts neatly vapourised in the explosion then that would be convenient, and me and violence will get along just fine. |
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