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Angelhunter
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Posted - 2013.05.19 02:52:00 -
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I would be fine with the tracking nerf if not for the fact you are still planning on nerfing Tracking Enhancers. Was the tracking enhancer nerf taken into consideration when you nerfed our blasters?
Also, the tracking is one thing, but the Optimal Range nerf needs to be revisited. Telling us we have to use 2 Tracking computers with scripts to be able to hit a tower is just a puzzler. Basically you are already dictating how we have to fit our ships to make them able to do their job. |
Angelhunter
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:21:00 -
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Grunnax Aurelius wrote:Angelhunter wrote:I would be fine with the tracking nerf if not for the fact you are still planning on nerfing Tracking Enhancers. Was the tracking enhancer nerf taken into consideration when you nerfed our blasters?
Also, the tracking is one thing, but the Optimal Range nerf needs to be revisited. Telling us we have to use 2 Tracking computers with scripts to be able to hit a tower is just a puzzler. Basically you are already dictating how we have to fit our ships to make them able to do their job. People like you make me mad!!! Complain about having to fit a module they don't want to fit because it compromises not having something else instead. In EvE to get something you have to give something, Kitting Ships have to sacrifice tank and damage for speed and agility. In this case you have to sacrifice capacitor upgrades and other utilities for more range and tracking. Give and Take is what EvE is about so quit B I T C H I N G.
FYI we already all fit multiple tracking computers on a Moros. If you don't know how ships are fitted for what purposes please don't attempt to knock what someone says. What you are failing to understand is that we now have to use optimal scripts simply to be able to do what the ship is designed to do in the first place.
Also its not bitching, its constructive commentary about a ships fittings and uses. |
Angelhunter
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Posted - 2013.05.19 04:45:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Angelhunter wrote:What you are failing to understand is that we now have to use optimal scripts simply to be able to do what the ship is designed to do in the first place. Boohoo, you have to use a script. So what? Tracking speed is irrelevant when shooting structures (literally, I tried MWDing in a blaster Naga with a 500m orbit around a TCU once to test this, and I still hit just as well as when sitting still). You can afford to focus all of your TCs on optimal+falloff only.
They are used for more than just structure shooting. The point is that a 15% tracking nerf coupled with the Optimal nerf is just ridiculous. CCP should have brought the other weapon systems UP to where Hybrids are, not nerf them further to compensate for very poor and short sighted game design. |
Angelhunter
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Posted - 2013.05.19 05:44:00 -
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Hagika wrote:The irony in these nerfs is that the phoenix still sucks badly still when being compared to the nerfed dreads.It just changed levels of suckage.
From ridiculously to miserably.
the true irony is that CCP was in such a hurry to push these changes that they didn't realize they hurt Titans even more. Congrats on really making them nothing more than a bridge.
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Angelhunter
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Posted - 2013.05.19 08:24:00 -
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Josilin du Guesclin wrote:Angelhunter wrote:
They are used for more than just structure shooting. The point is that a 15% tracking nerf coupled with the Optimal nerf is just ridiculous. CCP should have brought the other weapon systems UP to where Hybrids are, not nerf them further to compensate for very poor and short sighted game design.
So, your position is that the Moros' power level is 'just right' for a dreadnaught? Interesting, because just about everyone previous to this nerf seemed to be of the opinion that it was too good.
What is the judge of it being "too good"? I can fly all Dreads except Caldari (i wonder why?) and of the 3 i fly, yes the Moros felt to me how a dread SHOULD perform. Its a Dreadnaught, they are supposed to bring heavy firepower onto the field.
It was always my hope that CCP would have figured out a means to bring the other Dreads up to where the Moros was currently sitting. They can't seem to ever get missiles right, they should have been spending a lot more time on the Phoenix or simply turn it into another Hybrid platform like the Moros.
This is one of the worst implemented "fixes" i have seen yet out of CCP. |
Angelhunter
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Posted - 2013.05.19 10:21:00 -
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Tarithell wrote:Heh i like the part when someone from ccp asks us to tell them what we think but all the posts and feedbacks will be ignored, at the end nothing gonna change .. right Fozzie?
Well we can only keep at it if we want to see further changes. They did go back and revise some of the Battleship changes after players spoke. We basically have 3 views here.
Group A: HAHA Moros nerfed! Gallente sucks! aka the troll group
Group B: Why does my phoenix still suck?
Group C: Those of us who are actually providing constructive criticisms and trying to provide other options.
Group C just really needs to make themselves heard right now. The Moros changes hurt the most, but the rest of the changes are at best lackluster and a band-aid applied to a gaping wound. I would like to know what exactly CCP's vision of a dreadnaught is supposed to be? |
Angelhunter
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Posted - 2013.05.19 20:27:00 -
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So i would like to know, will there actually be any further discussions or modifications to these proposed changes or are they set in stone? It seems from reading through this entire thread that most people are overall NOT happy with this proposal.
I'm going to firmly put myself in the camp of "Lets get the other 3 dreads up to the level of the Moros" and even though i don't fly them and never would, please do something about the Phoenix to make it a viable combat ship. |
Angelhunter
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Posted - 2013.05.20 18:05:00 -
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So Fozzie, we have a lot of good ideas presented here and a very good discussion going (minus a few trolls). Will you be joining this discussion, and will there be any iterations to these proposed changes? |
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