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Ramon Tor
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Posted - 2005.10.16 19:17:00 -
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2 mil for war declaration is joke and anyone could affort it. 1 player corp doesnt face big loses, but big corp is risking a lot and their operations are distruped even if they didnt get attacked a lot. This 1 player is able to pick targets when and who. Then when big corp get some others to come get 'revenge' he can just hide in station or play hes alt and it feels more like playing cat and mouse. Big corp doesnt get any fun out of such war as there is no fleet battles.
Change it so that is declaring corp have less than 2% of the target corps members they cant declare war or would have to pay a lot extra (as big corp is risking a lot) to be able to declare war. Allowing 1 player corps declare in empire to anyone is like piracy and shouldnt be allowed in high sec space...
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Keta Min
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:08:00 -
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bohoo?
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Liquid Metal
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:09:00 -
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Just learn to defend yourself. Not much else anybody can say or do. Eve has a sharp learning curve, once you get killed, you learn not to do it again.
"A strong man stands tall against all others, everything else is just a delusion for the weak.."
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:11:00 -
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If a one player corp can defeat a 40 player corp these 40 players need to retink their strategies 
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Ramon Tor
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
If a one player corp can defeat a 40 player corp these 40 players need to retink their strategies
But he cant defeat anyone... He can just pick targets here and there and when hes abot to get killed he can go hide in station...
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:38:00 -
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buhu2u 
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Tar Ecthelion
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:39:00 -
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Our corp recently got war declared by a 1 man corp, and we are quite looking forward to it, gives us something to do other than agent missions and mining
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de gustibus non est disputandem
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ramon Tor
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
If a one player corp can defeat a 40 player corp these 40 players need to retink their strategies
But he cant defeat anyone... He can just pick targets here and there and when hes abot to get killed he can go hide in station...
Then he is defeating someone... how about you defend those targets?
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Prydeless
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Posted - 2005.10.16 20:49:00 -
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cry me a river noob 
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mirel yirrin
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:04:00 -
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ohnoesomgrunawayrunawayb4hepodsuomg!!!!!
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Claude Leon
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:06:00 -
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The real sad thing is that CCP removed the 3-day, no ship destroyed war check. Now, corps can declare war forever as long as they pay the fee, even if no ships have been destroyed for months.
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:32:00 -
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I agree... wars should be costly... simple... 50mil per week, those that can afford that probably need wars to keep themselves entertained.
Here are more ideas to fix the issue.
1. 50 mil per week... doubled for each addition war.
2. faction loss to all players fighting .8 and above sec according to the soverignty in that region. I see no reason why a faction would allow wars in the high sec empires without taking a hit to their faction.
3. New corps less than a month old can not declare war or be declared war upon.
4. change the 24 hour duration to 1 week to begin a war
5. when a war is undeclared by a corp A against corp B, corp B has the option to continue the war for free, while corp A continues to pay or signs a "declared loser" document which can not let them declare war against corp B ever again.
6. if no ships battle for 1 week, war is then ended as a draw.
I'm sure those who will hate these rules are just the ones that want wars to gank easy targets... but the problem is the effort/reward... why should it be little to no effort to disrupt an entire corp without having you're own consequences?
please don't flame me, becuase I don't care
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Fox Walken
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Posted - 2005.10.16 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ramon Tor
Edited by: Ramon Tor on 16/10/2005 19:24:42
2 mil for war declaration is joke and anyone could affort it. 1 player corp doesnt face big loses, but big corp is risking a lot and their operations are distruped even if they didnt get attacked a lot. This 1 player is able to pick targets when and who. Then when big corp get some others to come get 'revenge' he can just hide in station or play hes alt and it feels more like playing cat and mouse. Big corp doesnt get any fun out of such war as there is no fleet battles.
Change it so that is declaring corp have less than 2% of the target corps members they cant declare war or would have to pay a lot extra (as big corp is risking a lot) to be able to declare war. Allowing 1 player corps declare in empire to anyone is like piracy and shouldnt be allowed in high sec space...
Why do you care? You're in an NPC Corp, for less than a day.
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2005.10.16 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 16/10/2005 22:11:10
i only got one word here WIMP!
yea, but the big corp can bug or attack the solo player as it fells free too right!
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.10.16 22:20:00 -
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please don't flame me, becuase I don't care
Can I flame you because you're horribly wrong?
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Rells
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Posted - 2005.10.16 22:27:00 -
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there is some serious carebearge in this thread.
I have heard it all when I see 40 players scared of a single player corp.
◄ I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. -- Paul Atreides ► |
Darlan Flame
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Posted - 2005.10.16 22:47:00 -
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40 vs. 1 = one seriously constantly ganked mofo.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2005.10.16 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ramon Tor
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
If a one player corp can defeat a 40 player corp these 40 players need to retink their strategies
But he cant defeat anyone... He can just pick targets here and there and when hes abot to get killed he can go hide in station...
Camp the station, set up traps, use scan probes on his safespots. Diffrent strategies
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Hiram
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Posted - 2005.10.17 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: Rells
there is some serious carebearge in this thread.
I have heard it all when I see 40 players scared of a single player corp.
The 50mil per war and no fighting in 0.8 or above is frightening me? lol
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Lord Frost
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Posted - 2005.10.17 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
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please don't flame me, becuase I don't care
Can I flame you because you're horribly wrong?
wrong I may be... also I have an opinion... something you don't have or wish not to show. Or, is it rather that you can't come up with any excuse for this to be legit... other than slamming the corp as being "wimps".
I don't have a problem with 1 man declaring war, the problem is that ANY 1 man can do it... and the risk/reward is pretty pathetic. But I wouldnt expect much more from you, most "greifers" pride themselves on making others aggitated while you run and hide in every loophole Eve has to offer.
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Elthia
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Posted - 2005.10.17 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
If a one player corp can defeat a 40 player corp these 40 players need to retink their strategies
QFT.
My gods, man. 40 players - just go out in teams! Hunt him down, kill him an armload of times and cost him more than he's costing you! Sheesh. *chuckle*
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2005.10.17 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Frost
Originally by: Nero Scuro
Quote:
please don't flame me, becuase I don't care
Can I flame you because you're horribly wrong?
wrong I may be... also I have an opinion... something you don't have or wish not to show. Or, is it rather that you can't come up with any excuse for this to be legit... other than slamming the corp as being "wimps".
I don't have a problem with 1 man declaring war, the problem is that ANY 1 man can do it... and the risk/reward is pretty pathetic. But I wouldnt expect much more from you, most "greifers" pride themselves on making others aggitated while you run and hide in every loophole Eve has to offer.
Man speaks the truth. Many of you just use this as an opportunity for chestbeating, not paying attention to the problem at hand. Yes, the 3-day no kill cancellation and increasing the fees are in order. 1-man corp wars are a nuisance and if you think that 40 ppl should be hunting 1 who say, logs in once or twice a week and flies a rifter or an interceptor then you're just not being realistic.
But by all means keep pounding your chests.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.10.17 00:41:00 -
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Lol, another 'OMG CCP HOLD MY HAND I'M GETTING PVPed' thread.
I think 1 man corps should get free wardecs vs big corps 
Originally by: Berneh
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Wendat Huron
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Posted - 2005.10.17 00:56:00 -
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Having a war declared on you might actually be good for gelling the outfit. I know we declared war on Rebel Mining Guild way back, they thrived, our contract seized and so did the glory days of the RMG.
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Gaius Kador
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Posted - 2005.10.17 02:04:00 -
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When I get the time to play EVE, in a few months time, I plan to attack corps by my self.
Whats the prob with a lone player going up against big corps anyhow? FFS man...
Get a grip.
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Garramon
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Posted - 2005.10.17 02:09:00 -
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To the Original Poster: Think about it though. If it is such a problem, why don't all corps wage war by acting as a whole bunch of one-man corps, if it is so effective?
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Clementina
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Posted - 2005.10.17 02:24:00 -
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So you want an immunity to war decs based upon nothing but raw size.
Why don't you just use that size to your advantage, and pwn that one man corp.
Actually truth be told, when a one man corp declares on a large corp, the members of the large corp don't even see the one man, or his alts. If you don't suck, you have as much to worry about now then if there is no active war. Don't AFK through, empire just in case, and you should be fine.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2005.10.17 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Clementina
So you want an immunity to war decs based upon nothing but raw size.
Why don't you just use that size to your advantage, and pwn that one man corp.
My guess is that he doesn't do that, because it's logically impossible.
Camping him in the station? He can happily clone-hop somewhere else and go after people not in the camp. Or he can have his 30 buddies join his corp and annihilate you unexpectedly. Or, simplest of all, he can use an alt character and just sit there in the station forever while he plays with his main account; and for the sake of $14.95 a month, he's destroying the gameplay of anything up to 40 people.
There's something seriously wrong if a single player can force a group of 40+ to completely alter their gameplay style.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2005.10.17 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Clementina
So you want an immunity to war decs based upon nothing but raw size.
Why don't you just use that size to your advantage, and pwn that one man corp.
My guess is that he doesn't do that, because it's logically impossible.
Camping him in the station? He can happily clone-hop somewhere else and go after people not in the camp. Or he can have his 30 buddies join his corp and annihilate you unexpectedly. Or, simplest of all, he can use an alt character and just sit there in the station forever while he plays with his main account; and for the sake of $14.95 a month, he's destroying the gameplay of anything up to 40 people.
There's something seriously wrong if a single player can force a group of 40+ to completely alter their gameplay style.
Its not that hard to defend against one person even if you're mining. Put him on your friends list, use location agents, see when he pops into local, etc.
PS, odds are you'll only see a 1 man corp war in Jita/Yulai/Oursulaert/Rens/etc. trying to take out haulers. Its rather simple to deal with that.
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Soren
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Posted - 2005.10.17 06:22:00 -
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Leave it as is.
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