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Xystance
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:05:00 -
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I've been getting tired of null sec, it's boring, all the same ****, but I realized it's really the people that are the problem.
Scammers, Miner Ganking, none of this means ****, it's all about the people and to be honest, I can't associate with these scrubs anymore. The problem is, who else is there? There's low sec where they think they know what they're doing but play by the "rules" of gate guns and aggression, and there's high sec where there really isn't any real combat.
Listening to all of you plot to destroy goons by getting a few battleships is hilarious, but sad. You can't just form a fleet of a few hundred, or even a few fleets of a THOUSAND and expect to fight a single 50 person well FC'd Goonfleet. They have tightly run communications, they have solid fleet compositions built from logistics, recons, and battlecruisers / battleships all running the same tank, the same guns, the same formations, and fcs with warpins and warpouts the likes of which you've never even conceived of. "
IF you read that last paragraph and are dumbfounded then you realize what I mean, You all have "played" eve, but you haven't learned how to -PLAY- eve.
I'm here to help. I was the military director of Test Alliance Please Ignore for half a year, and their lead FC for longer. Here's my kill record: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Xystance
I'd like to see if there's interest in forming a new corp and potentially a new alliance based off the following principles:
1) No one knows everything, but everyone can be taught something 2) Honor and loyalty don't exist in this game, common interest and common goals do, and we have a common goal: The fall of Goonswarm once and for all 3) To play the game the way you want, you must fight for that right.
I propose an organization with experienced and battle-tested fleet commanders at the top, teaching everyone how to fly, how to enjoy the game, and how to fight when there are no rules, how to leave the cradle of high sec and step into the wilderness than is null security space and hit them where it hurts.
What do they care about? Sovereignty, ratting, building capitals, moon mining, killing "pubbies" and harvesting their tears. Once properly organized and trained we can deny them all these things.
So, fellow Eve citizens, X up and tell me if you're ready to learn how to -really- play this game, Eve Online, X up and tell me you're willing to fly cheap and effectively, tell me you're willing to standardize your fits and fly under a unified fleet command structure, tell me you're willing to dock your hulks and your Navy Ravens and your Tengus and step into -real- combat ships, Tell me you're ready to REALLY enjoy this game and MAKE THE GOONS PAY
X UP HERE and if there's enough interest, I'll just have to start training corporation skills. :) |
Herp McDerpinstan
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:09:00 -
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XEST Alliance best alliance. |
Crite Momaki
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:09:00 -
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how can i get into your corporation? the goons have dried my wallet for the last time |
Aleksei Zukov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:11:00 -
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Getting in on the ground floor. I want in! |
Feky Deji
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:13:00 -
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SIGN ME UP!! At least you sound competent enough to actually get the goons where it hurts |
Ryan Renholder
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:13:00 -
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X I'm down I'm tired of these goons! |
Morinth Tsoni
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:15:00 -
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How will this work? I've only been to low sec in frigates to see how stuff goes down but nothing bigger than that. |
Etirc Itonula
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:16:00 -
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X X X X they won't even see it coming |
Awox Blueshooter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:19:00 -
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Uhhhh... guys he's in test alliance please ignore and they're goonies bff's. i kno that there are a lot of people who hate the goonies and the only way we can keep eve alive is for high sec to join togehter like they do in null sec. but this guy is just trolling to make u die. |
Aleksei Zukov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:23:00 -
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Awox Blueshooter wrote:Uhhhh... guys he's in test alliance please ignore and they're goonies bff's. i kno that there are a lot of people who hate the goonies and the only way we can keep eve alive is for high sec to join togehter like they do in null sec. but this guy is just trolling to make u die.
No, we're disenfranchised with TEST. It's full of ass wipes who do nothing but grief and call people faggots and niggers. We're frankly sick of the bigotry and think they should get a taste of their own medicine. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:29:00 -
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Really, Xystance? Do you honestly believe that you can "sky marshal" some huge high-sec campaign against Goonswarm? The sole reason 99% of dedicated high-sec residents stay in high-sec is because they cannot accept authority. They will question your experience, your authority and ultimately tear your campaign down unwittingly. If you're going to sincerely attempt to unite a bunch of carebears who cannot agree on a fleet doctrine with the goal of destroying Goonswarm because of some petty grudge from the past, good luck - you might succeed where Fintroll failed, but it's highly unlikely. |
ArcanixPR
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:31:00 -
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Aleksei Zukov wrote:Awox Blueshooter wrote:Uhhhh... guys he's in test alliance please ignore and they're goonies bff's. i kno that there are a lot of people who hate the goonies and the only way we can keep eve alive is for high sec to join togehter like they do in null sec. but this guy is just trolling to make u die. No, we're disenfranchised with TEST. It's full of ass wipes who do nothing but grief and call people faggots and niggers. We're frankly sick of the bigotry and think they should get a taste of their own medicine.
Also getting sick and tired of Sniggs in our space. |
Xystance
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:36:00 -
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Awox Blueshooter wrote:Uhhhh... guys he's in test alliance please ignore and they're goonies bff's. i kno that there are a lot of people who hate the goonies and the only way we can keep eve alive is for high sec to join togehter like they do in null sec. but this guy is just trolling to make u die.
Hey, like I said. I'm in TEST right now, and TEST and Goons -are- BFFs. But I'm tired of playing the same old game, I'll admit... I see a little appeal to going into high sec and killing hulks and macs and industrials, tears are a valuable commodity... but behind all those ships (well, most) and those tears are people, people who don't -have to take it and can fight back. Why is it so much fun? EASY TARGETS, you're never going to be able to deal with it that way, As much as you're in high sec and "protected", you need to learn that they've gamed the rules. High sec is not safe, low sec is ... well it's ********.
Null sec is literally the safest place you can play when you're in a group because you control everything. IF you fail, you didn't have enough people, or enough organization, or what it takes. High sec and low sec are all about gaming the game.
So, that's why I propose training us up from scratch and hitting them in null sec. |
Xystance
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:38:00 -
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Andski wrote:Really, Xystance? Do you honestly believe that you can "sky marshal" some huge high-sec campaign against Goonswarm? The sole reason 99% of dedicated high-sec residents stay in high-sec is because they cannot accept authority. They will question your experience, your authority and ultimately tear your campaign down unwittingly. If you're going to sincerely attempt to unite a bunch of carebears who cannot agree on a fleet doctrine with the goal of destroying Goonswarm because of some petty grudge from the past, good luck - you might succeed where Fintroll failed, but it's highly unlikely.
That's a fair point.
I'm not looking to tell people how to play the game, but if they want to keep getting instapopped by a sensor boosted artillery tempest on the undock of a station while flying in a Tengu with a 0% EM resist, them be my guest.
IF you want a fighting chance of fighting back, hitting them where it hurts, maybe not succeeding, but at least ENJOYING THE GAME and enjoying your time, and not feeling helpless... then this is what it's all about.
I don't have a grudge against Goonswarm, but I see an opportunity to bring a whole new group of people into the REAL game, and hey... why -not- the Goons, they're the ones causing all the trouble. :) |
Takashi Kaeda
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:44:00 -
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This sounds like an interesting opportunity.
We are going to need some battleships with cruiser support. The hard part is going to be finding battleship pilots who aren't in nullsec. Maybe we could do a few mining ops to pay for some mercs to support us. |
Awox Blueshooter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:44:00 -
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we can't trust goonies until you prove you mean what you say. when you have a corp and start teaching us how to fight and have training IN HIGHSEC then maybe ppl should listen to you. right now i think this is just another one of the goons scam. are u going to front up and start a corp IN HIGHSEC so we can see your not full of s**t? |
Awox Blueshooter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:45:00 -
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takashi i know lots of mission runners who can fly battleships and have way more awesome stuff than what you see on goonies kill boards |
Aleksei Zukov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:49:00 -
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Awox Blueshooter wrote:takashi i know lots of mission runners who can fly battleships and have way more awesome stuff than what you see on goonies kill boards
http://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=164856
Couldn't resist.
But no seriously, we're working on creating the corp as we speak. We will be dropping corp soon. |
Xystance
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:50:00 -
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Awox Blueshooter wrote:we can't trust goonies until you prove you mean what you say. when you have a corp and start teaching us how to fight and have training IN HIGHSEC then maybe ppl should listen to you. right now i think this is just another one of the goons scam. are u going to front up and start a corp IN HIGHSEC so we can see your not full of s**t?
Hey.
Did I say "give me 500m to get you into corp woooololol"? Or do cyno your carrier into my pos / station / whatever? I didn't ask for anything other than a sign of interest. If I have 20 people interested this isn't going to go anywhere... 100+, now you're talking, because 20 people isn't going to do the job. 100 and you've got momentum and a potential to cause real problems. |
ItsmeHcK1
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:53:00 -
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Sounds legit. |
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Awox Blueshooter
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.20 06:55:00 -
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well i definitely am joining up IF you actually start a corp and show us what to do. goonies and their csm/ceo just got 20% of ccp laid of for bullshit and highsecers need to unite to fight to keep eve alive. there are more of us than there are in nullsec we just have to organize |
ps3ud0nym
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:05:00 -
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I am with you Xystance. This war with empire is really showing the cracks in the unified face that is presented by the CFC to the rest of EVE. The cracks are starting to show! I have had it with the racism and the trolling. You have my whelp cane and alphamael sir! They are yours to command! |
Takashi Kaeda
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:06:00 -
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We're going to needs guns. Lots of guns.
Post your preferred ammo types now, i will start making ammo. i can only make t1 ammo right now but i should be able to make a ton. if i get some miners to help me with the mineral supply i can even hand ammo out for free if this thing gets going.
We're also going to need a base of operations, I don't want to start making ammo and then have to ship it across the galaxy. If the Goons are in gallente space, we should take Caldari space- access to Jita will be crucial.
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Xystance
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:09:00 -
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Let the market provide guns.
I'm not interested in gaming the market (at least not unless it makes sense or can cause some pain).
Also Awox Blueshooter: Sounds good. Like I said, just seeing if there's any possibility of this happening before I make the leap, and while i'm tempted to say no other people from my old corp are allowed, I -do- need more people that already know how to fly. (sigh) |
Gazzini
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:10:00 -
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I'd be down for this. We could base out of Osmeden, in Placid. If I'm reading this map right, it would put us next to a minor trade hub, a few jumps from low and null to get fights, and at the opposite side of the universe from Goons. |
Ricochet Creed
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:11:00 -
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X
(posting alt, already live in Syndicate with 2 alts, will followup with EVEmail. |
Aleksei Zukov
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:12:00 -
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Takashi Kaeda wrote:We're going to needs guns. Lots of guns.
Post your preferred ammo types now, i will start making ammo. i can only make t1 ammo right now but i should be able to make a ton. if i get some miners to help me with the mineral supply i can even hand ammo out for free if this thing gets going.
We're also going to need a base of operations, I don't want to start making ammo and then have to ship it across the galaxy. If the Goons are in gallente space, we should take Caldari space- access to Jita will be crucial.
It should be somewhere in Lonetrek. That's the closest highsec region to Goons. |
Ricochet Creed
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:12:00 -
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Gazzini wrote:You could base out of Osmeden, in Placid. If I'm reading this map right, it would put you next to a minor trade hub, a few jumps from low and null to get fights, and at the opposite side of the universe from Goons.
Confirming/supporting this idea. Have friends. |
ps3ud0nym
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:13:00 -
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Takashi Kaeda wrote:We're going to needs guns. Lots of guns. We're also going to need a base of operations, I don't want to start making ammo and then have to ship it across the galaxy. If the Goons are in gallente space, we should take Caldari space- access to Jita will be crucial.
What you guys will see, is a truck load of spin and propaganda. You're going to see people posting about how you have no man power, you have no quality. Now, the front line is going to be Osmeden. It is not going to be Jita, it is not going to be Dodixe. It's going to be Osmeden. We will not be moving away from Osmeden. If someone runs around like a chicken and doesn't defend Osmeden... GET IT BACK!
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Xystance
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:14:00 -
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ps3ud0nym wrote:Takashi Kaeda wrote:We're going to needs guns. Lots of guns. We're also going to need a base of operations, I don't want to start making ammo and then have to ship it across the galaxy. If the Goons are in gallente space, we should take Caldari space- access to Jita will be crucial.
What you guys will see, is a truck load of spin and propaganda. You're going to see people posting about how you have no man power, you have no quality. Now, the front line is going to be Osmeden. It is not going to be Jita, it is not going to be Dodixe. It's going to be Osmeden. We will not be moving away from Osmeden. If someone runs around like a chicken and doesn't defend Osmeden... GET IT BACK! You're a terrible troll and always have been :frogout: |
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