Hi guys;

You have modified the Naglfar.

So please pay our useless minmatar skills back : Citadel Cruise Missiles and Citadel Torpedoes ( Skill Points and Iskes ! )

I won't fly in a Phoenix or in a Leviathan.
I don't need these skills anymore.

You have modified the ship, so plz PAY BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!

haha

how about you just ask that they wont chance the nag to the silly all out turret thing and instead of that they should just boost the current nags bonuses to match the other ships.

It's much more fun with missiles and stuff.

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why the f did you invest skillpoints into the Citadel Torps and Cruises if they weren't even bonused?

You have modified the ship, so plz PAY BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi guys;

You have modified the Naglfar.

So please pay our useless minmatar skills back : Citadel Cruise Missiles and Citadel Torpedoes ( Skill Points and Iskes ! )

I won't fly in a Phoenix or in a Leviathan.
I don't need these skills anymore.

You have modified the ship, so plz PAY BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!

CCP never reimburse skills under these circumstances. All ships and modules are "subject to change".

The only time skills have been reimbursed has been when the relevent module or effect has been simply removed from the game (eg: learning skills)

You're not going to get your skillpoints back.

Deal with it.

I usually agree but with this change I'm a bit on the fence, for someone who doesn't also have caldari dreads trained it is a very close approximate to if they'd removed them from the game.

If you're having trouble dealing with it, I don't know, try harder I guess.

Nope. XL missiles are still in the game, they still do the same thing (in fact they're getting a buff), you're not getting your skillpoints back.

If you're having trouble dealing with it, I don't know, try harder I guess.

CCP never reimburse skills under these circumstances. All ships and modules are "subject to change".

The only time skills have been reimbursed has been when the relevent module or effect has been simply removed from the game (eg: learning skills)

You're not going to get your skillpoints back.

Deal with it.

Nope. XL missiles are still in the game, they still do the same thing (in fact they're getting a buff), you're not getting your skillpoints back.

If you're having trouble dealing with it, I don't know, try harder I guess.

so does that mean that with the removal of DSP's we will get the lvl5 skill points we trained to use them back? I don't need the skill to lvl 5 anymore...

CCP never reimburse skills under these circumstances. All ships and modules are "subject to change".

The only time skills have been reimbursed has been when the relevent module or effect has been simply removed from the game (eg: learning skills)

You're not going to get your skillpoints back.

Deal with it.

Theres a difference here - astrometrics V gives you an extra probe regardless if you use a DSP or not, its still applicable for other stuff you will do while scanning and doesn't require extensive retraining into another area of the game to once again make use of that skill.

You dont like what CCP is doing vote with your wallet. It is a company and therefore it operates under certain rules that brings it profit. The faster can someone speed their training and reach his personal objective thats bad for business. Since the person reached his personal endgame usualy. If they would return sp people would just invest them to somewehre else what they would like to fly and therefore immidiately achieve the objective. When someone reaches his personal endgame either he stops playing or limits his playtime for another things. So therfore its not in ccp interests to do that. If you want some game change ask yourself how much could game company loose on that change and there will be your answer if the particular change will happen or not.

Hi guys;

You have modified the Naglfar.

So please pay our useless minmatar skills back : Citadel Cruise Missiles and Citadel Torpedoes ( Skill Points and Iskes ! )

I won't fly in a Phoenix or in a Leviathan.
I don't need these skills anymore.

You have modified the ship, so plz PAY BACK !!!!!!!!!!!!

You dont like what CCP is doing vote with your wallet. It is a company and therefore it operates under certain rules that brings it profit. The faster can someone speed their training and reach his personal objective thats bad for business. Since the person reached his personal endgame usualy. If they would return sp people would just invest them to somewehre else what they would like to fly and therefore immidiately achieve the objective. When someone reaches his personal endgame either he stops playing or limits his playtime for another things. So therfore its not in ccp interests to do that. If you want some game change ask yourself how much could game company loose on that change and there will be your answer if the particular change will happen or not.

More fun with missiles, I think that's why nobody uses the Phoenix.

Oh... Wait, that doesn't make sense.

I'm usually never for the whole "SP refund" thing that a lot of people cry out on, but I kinda agree with this one here. The people who trained into using Citadels just for their Naglfar, which now no longer needs them, is kind of a slap in the face to them even if it's good to the ship they fly.

Pretty disgusted tbh. That's 3.6m skillpoints it looks like I'm -never- going to use again.

Do you seriously have both citadel torpedoes AND cruise missiles to V, yet not have a phoenix?

That's literally the only way your claim is even remotely possible.