1. Yes
2. No lag noticed. Largely useless however since it can only be accessed from space (read cluttered)
3. You can adjust probes how you want after launch. There was Dev talk in the feedback thread about bringing back the8th probe and one at a time launching
4. No

3. It now launches 8 probes, and you have to have 8 probes to launch. They still haven't added the ability to launch less, or single probes.

Btw, there are two threads in the test section about probes in general and the overlay, if you want to keep up.

Not had a go on SiSi yet, but I understand that there are two probe set ups. One is the traditional diamond set-up and the other is the flower arrangement.

Deep space probes are being removed, but there is a lot of noise about that so there could be a change. Also, the percentage results are gone and in it's place is a 'loading bar', which makes it very difficult to distinguish the types of anomoly with a single probe. Again, a lot of noise about this (albeit very split views as some folk deem this as cheating), so CCP MAY add the percentage in addition to the bar.

Apologies, because you wanted SiSi confirmation and I'm going off of what I have read and heard. But, hopefully, it's shed some light for you.


Edit: correcting for iPhone key-pad errors!

Yea I gave up trying to keep on top of both threadnaughts. I said my peace in both. I tested and got familiar with scanning on Sisi. And resigned myself to the fact that very little is likely to change before Odyssey is released (not much time left).

Any further feedback about overlay or probing changes would be greatly appreciated. I don't have the ability to get on SISI for next few weeks.

Scanning on Sisi is still a WIP, much has changed in the last few weeks, so it's not really sensible to draw any conclusions yet.

For example they linked the visual display to the sig list in the scanner window now (which they intended to abolish initially, horrible idea!). But there are a few problems, like the scan results strong enough to give a dot or a ring not automatically selected after a scan. This would be terrible if released, but I'm pretty sure it's just a bug that will be fixed.

The initial system scan shows the percentages we know as the sig sizes (2.5% for a data site, 10% for a K162 etc.), so it's the same as a DSP for signature scanning.

While scanning is faster, it will also be even easier for pve players to spot new wormholes the moment they appear. So they can warp out before you even complete jumping into their system. For example, until recently I used two combat ships for c3 ratting and didn't have a slot to spare to fit a probe launcher. So I was always at risk that a new wormhole was opened which I could not detect. Now I don't need a probe launcher fitted, I will always see the new sig and can warp out and investigate it before continuing.

So...if there's a way, without a DSP or a probe launcher, to see new sigs opening up, this will kill all wormhole gankings.

Thank you everyone for your feedback. I keep watching this post if anyone wants to bring anything to CCPs attention.

So...if there's a way, without a DSP or a probe launcher, to see new sigs opening up, this will kill all wormhole gankings.

As it is now, all it takes is the foresight to drop a probe and do sigwatch. With the new system, I would be willing to bet it is easier because people will be complacent.

Sure, the new Sig shows up on the screen, but you

A) have to be actively swinging your camera around in all directions, including up and down
B) memorize where the existing signatures are (is that signature 15 degrees above planet 6 new, or was it there before... There are 20 sigs and I can't remember)

You are not able to ignore a signature from the space view. When I'm making money, my probes are going to be out just like they were before.

If anything, it'll provide more motivation for people to keep their systems clean, which will speed up scouting a chain.

Well, you still have to be aware, and you weren't going to get the jump on an aware target before, either. Tossing down a core probe and pushing a button doesn't exactly take any sort of skill.

When it comes to ganking people in w-space, if they haven't seen me come in, I always bet on stupid.

All based on old information.

I just hopped in SiSi last night. The results of the overlay scanner now shows up in the scanner window exactly like if you had scanned with a probe.

You absolutely can now, take those results and ignore, then wait for something new to spawn and it WILL show up in the list.

It is WH easy mode now. The results are sorted by sig strength. So the results are akin to a DSP without having to adjust for your skills. It took all of 30 seconds to understand all of the relevant bands in WH space.

The only bonus IMO is that it is now so easy to be able to scan that people will be roaming WH space more than they used to.

So a couple of other things.

First I was just reading and it looks like they will be pulling signal Strength out of the overlay scanner. So all Sigs will initially show 0% without any probes. Not a huge deal but it does kill the overlay as DSP replacement mechanic.

And yes it may cause some aspects to be easier. In some ways though it may also feed complacency as many automated systems sometimes do.

On the flip side, the overlay gives such fast intel, good hunters may get a bit of help there. Now when you jump through a wormhole, your results list is filled with every anom and sig in the system, even before you finish loading grid. This is way faster than the current hit system scanner button (which only worked out to 64AU, takes 10 seconds, and only shows anoms). In fact the system scanner button doesn't even work anymore without probes out. So a fast hunter can have its pretty dscanned and in warp faster than it used to take to just do an initial system scan.

Overall, the jury is still out IMO on what kind of effect this will actually have. Overall I think the added speed of intel gathering and faster scanning may benefit the hunter just as much as the prey as they will be able to roam around WH space that much faster than before.

Miners will become an endangered species because grav sites will be anoms, not signatures.

Mostly I think the status quo will be maintained. I've yet to hear of anyone actually verifying that new sigs appear in the list immediately or not, it seems most people are assuming they will and extrapolating the typically disproportionate level of rage and entitlement from it.

If incoming K162s appear on the next sweep then maybe it'll be an issue, but frankly anyone who had any sense of self preservation has someone watching for new sigs with probes anyway so not much will change there.

Anyone not taking precautions will still be mostly just as vulnerable as they are now.

I tested it a couple of updates ago, and the list was not populated automatically. The new sig didn't show up in space for 30 seconds, and didn't show up in the list at all until you changed your filter to something else and back. Have yet to get a response from CCP if that's the intended behavior or not.