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Devil Fruit
Busboy Corporation
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 03:09:00 -
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like pay some isk to some specific NPC and you can change your employment history to their corporation.cause a lot null sec alliance will decline your application just because your history. and if you can change your history EVE will be more real cause if is in the real life you cant always just get those information so easily.and it will also creat a lot jobs tfor spies. All this has happened before, and it will all happen again. |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
72
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Posted - 2013.05.21 03:24:00 -
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I remember a time where corps would decline you simply for having been in too many corporations. Period. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoavH8xbrPE |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
550
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Posted - 2013.05.21 03:25:00 -
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Getting into some corps will be hard with a long employment history yes, but not impossible. Removing the employment history can cause so many issues that i dont even know were to begin!
You mention one your self, spies. If you can remove your employment history it would be a lot easier for spies to get into whatever alliance/corp they wanted, but this would also remove a lot of the challenges a spy has to overcome, and i would think those challenges is part of the fun.
Consequences for joining a corp without proper research or knowledge. EVE is so strict on the fact that everything has consequences and that you have to take your time with everything. Joining a corp should be no different. If you decide to join a corp just because they were willing to accept you, its your own fault that extra name got added to the list, not the recruiters.
As a recruiter i will often look over what corps someone has been a member of in the past to see if they would have any interest in what we could offer them. If i see nothing but high sec mining corps i know there is a high chance they would not be happy with us, thus its worth having a talk with them. Removing the employment history would make it easier for someone to just lie and say "yea we have experience with (whatever!) while they have never even set a foot outside of high sec.
History. When i see someone who was a member off.. some corp i knew, or some corp that used to be known by "everyone" it can both lead to nice conversations about "ohh do you remember this person" or just make the person feel a sense of pride that his/her corp name gets attention and in some cases it says something about the player. If they managed to get into that corp/alliance it means they had something special to offer, and they gained knowledge from people who most could respect (or hate depending on how you look at it).
My employment history is pretty short, but i can tell you that even if i had a long list i would want to maintain it purely for its history and to show people what i did, look over the names and remember what i did and who i flew with and what we accomplished. And sure you know these things, but sometimes you want others to know that you were a part of something bigger. And without an employment history..well.. I could just lie and say i was a part of (whatever corp/alliance you respect) and no one could question it. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Akali Kuvakei
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2013.05.21 03:26:00 -
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Confirmed it is needed, as a person who buys and sells chars. When I have one I want to play, like this one. I get turned down do to history only. |

Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
83
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Posted - 2013.05.21 03:47:00 -
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Akali Kuvakei wrote:Confirmed it is needed, as a person who buys and sells chars. When I have one I want to play, like this one. I get turned down do to history only. Have you considered AA (Alt-aholics Anonymous)?  |

Devil Fruit
Busboy Corporation
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 03:50:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:I remember a time where corps would decline you simply for having been in too many corporations. Period. yeah that will be a reason too All this has happened before, and it will all happen again. |

Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
83
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Posted - 2013.05.21 03:58:00 -
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On a serious note, I wouldn't necessarily say that the corporation history should be cleaned so much as a notation made in the corp history when purchased by a new owner. That way the character's history is maintained, but it can still be made clear how much of that history belongs to the new owner. |

Jack Miton
Aperture Harmonics K162
1869
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:06:00 -
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No. If you don't want a corp on your history, don't join it. |

hejsan stolly
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:15:00 -
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The main thing that makes it so long is the NPC corps, remove them and the list is suddenly not that long.
The idea with a notation when a character is sold: Spies will only transfer the character to another account. |

Sabriz Adoudel
AWOXalypse
352
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:18:00 -
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hejsan stolly wrote:The main thing that makes it so long is the NPC corps, remove them and the list is suddenly not that long.
Have you seen Psychotic Monk's corp history? Try telling me that that wouldn't still be long with the NPC corps removed. AWOXalypse is coming! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2898431 Buy shares: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=226618 An enemy is a friend you stab in the front. |

Devil Fruit
Busboy Corporation
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:20:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:Getting into some corps will be hard with a long employment history yes, but not impossible. Removing the employment history can cause so many issues that i dont even know were to begin!
You mention one your self, spies. If you can remove your employment history it would be a lot easier for spies to get into whatever alliance/corp they wanted, but this would also remove a lot of the challenges a spy has to overcome, and i would think those challenges is part of the fun.
Consequences for joining a corp without proper research or knowledge. EVE is so strict on the fact that everything has consequences and that you have to take your time with everything. Joining a corp should be no different. If you decide to join a corp just because they were willing to accept you, its your own fault that extra name got added to the list, not the recruiters.
As a recruiter i will often look over what corps someone has been a member of in the past to see if they would have any interest in what we could offer them. If i see nothing but high sec mining corps i know there is a high chance they would not be happy with us, thus its worth having a talk with them. Removing the employment history would make it easier for someone to just lie and say "yea we have experience with (whatever!) while they have never even set a foot outside of high sec.
History. When i see someone who was a member off.. some corp i knew, or some corp that used to be known by "everyone" it can both lead to nice conversations about "ohh do you remember this person" or just make the person feel a sense of pride that his/her corp name gets attention and in some cases it says something about the player. If they managed to get into that corp/alliance it means they had something special to offer, and they gained knowledge from people who most could respect (or hate depending on how you look at it).
My employment history is pretty short, but i can tell you that even if i had a long list i would want to maintain it purely for its history and to show people what i did, look over the names and remember what i did and who i flew with and what we accomplished. And sure you know these things, but sometimes you want others to know that you were a part of something bigger. And without an employment history..well.. I could just lie and say i was a part of (whatever corp/alliance you respect) and no one could question it.
yeah that will be your choose but i think maybe we need more options for everyone i'm sure there will be a lot guys like myself wanna to change that history or just make it short All this has happened before, and it will all happen again. |

Ireland VonVicious
Vendetta Syndicate
133
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:22:00 -
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hejsan stolly wrote:The main thing that makes it so long is the NPC corps, remove them and the list is suddenly not that long.
The idea with a notation when a character is sold: Spies will only transfer the character to another account.
You don't have to go into them other then the very first one you started in.
You can go direct from one player corp to the other. |

Devil Fruit
Busboy Corporation
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:24:00 -
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NightCrawler 85 wrote:Getting into some corps will be hard with a long employment history yes, but not impossible. Removing the employment history can cause so many issues that i dont even know were to begin!
You mention one your self, spies. If you can remove your employment history it would be a lot easier for spies to get into whatever alliance/corp they wanted, but this would also remove a lot of the challenges a spy has to overcome, and i would think those challenges is part of the fun.
Consequences for joining a corp without proper research or knowledge. EVE is so strict on the fact that everything has consequences and that you have to take your time with everything. Joining a corp should be no different. If you decide to join a corp just because they were willing to accept you, its your own fault that extra name got added to the list, not the recruiters.
As a recruiter i will often look over what corps someone has been a member of in the past to see if they would have any interest in what we could offer them. If i see nothing but high sec mining corps i know there is a high chance they would not be happy with us, thus its worth having a talk with them. Removing the employment history would make it easier for someone to just lie and say "yea we have experience with (whatever!) while they have never even set a foot outside of high sec.
History. When i see someone who was a member off.. some corp i knew, or some corp that used to be known by "everyone" it can both lead to nice conversations about "ohh do you remember this person" or just make the person feel a sense of pride that his/her corp name gets attention and in some cases it says something about the player. If they managed to get into that corp/alliance it means they had something special to offer, and they gained knowledge from people who most could respect (or hate depending on how you look at it).
My employment history is pretty short, but i can tell you that even if i had a long list i would want to maintain it purely for its history and to show people what i did, look over the names and remember what i did and who i flew with and what we accomplished. And sure you know these things, but sometimes you want others to know that you were a part of something bigger. And without an employment history..well.. I could just lie and say i was a part of (whatever corp/alliance you respect) and no one could question it. and about spy it actually increased challenges for both side.and they need to get info by some onther way like some old screemshot or some members list of onther corpration All this has happened before, and it will all happen again. |

Devil Fruit
Busboy Corporation
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:29:00 -
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hejsan stolly wrote:The main thing that makes it so long is the NPC corps, remove them and the list is suddenly not that long.
The idea with a notation when a character is sold: Spies will only transfer the character to another account. I have seem some people jump between two or three bonded corp very oftenly and they got a very long list.... I am nothing but a humble busboy. |

Devil Fruit
Busboy Corporation
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:31:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:No. If you don't want a corp on your history, don't join it. sometime you can only find out that after you did it. I am nothing but a humble busboy. |

floating in space
University of Caille Gallente Federation
28
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:35:00 -
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Someone will just store your employment history on a 3rd party site for corps to reference. I think these already exist actually, I don't think changing them in-game would help. |

Devil Fruit
Busboy Corporation
10
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:40:00 -
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floating in space wrote:Someone will just store your employment history on a 3rd party site for corps to reference. I think these already exist actually, I don't think changing them in-game would help. well it will help for guys just want it to be short I am nothing but a humble busboy. |

Zak Breen
Beagle Expeditions
35
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Posted - 2013.05.21 04:42:00 -
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How can this possibly be a good idea? |

Kult Altol
Viziam Amarr Empire
278
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Posted - 2013.05.21 05:12:00 -
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I just got denied a PVE corp cause I did pvp for 10 days. :/ so silly. An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded. A narrow mind is a focused mind.
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Jarod Garamonde
Action Bastards
189
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Posted - 2013.05.21 05:18:00 -
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Devil Fruit wrote:like pay some isk to some specific NPC and you can change your employment history to their corporation.cause a lot null sec alliance will decline your application just because your history. and if you can change your history EVE will be more real cause if is in the real life you cant always just get those information so easily.and it will also creat a lot jobsfor spies. and of course it shall cost a lot and maybe charge according to your SP~
First of all..... you have no idea how dumb this idea is.
Second of all.... Awoxers and hostile takeovers.
Third of all.... this is a really dumb idea. "you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |

Mik Nostrebor
Thirtyplus Spaceship Samurai
0
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Posted - 2013.05.21 05:24:00 -
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One advantage of a long employment history is that it can lock up the info window for a while. IE If you are jumping through low sec and a pirate checks you out, it can lock them up for up to 30 seconds. :) I have been whined at by pirates specifically for that. OK, it doesn't happen often but it does happen. |

Cannibal Kane
Somali Coast Guard Authority
1766
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Posted - 2013.05.21 05:34:00 -
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On another note...
Depending on what you bring to the corp no matter how long your history is they will take you. If you are just a nobody, a random, another corp member just earning them some tax. Then it matters.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
696
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Posted - 2013.05.21 05:40:00 -
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in b4 plex for clean sheet?
seriously it would not surprise me if CCP lets you get away with it for rl money...lols to the ones that actually use it when it goes live...
I am against it though...
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Gealbhan
198
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Posted - 2013.05.21 06:06:00 -
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I don't consider my employment history very long. |

John 1135
39
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Posted - 2013.05.21 06:21:00 -
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Devil Fruit wrote:like pay some isk to some specific NPC and you can change your employment history to their corporation.cause a lot null sec alliance will decline your application just because your history. and if you can change your history EVE will be more real cause if is in the real life you cant always just get those information so easily.and it will also creat a lot jobsfor spies. and of course it shall cost a lot and maybe charge according to your SP~ But forehead visibility should be mandatory. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
913
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Posted - 2013.05.21 06:45:00 -
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I wish stays in NPC corps were hidden by default (but could be displayed if desired) - that alone would make it much easier to read employment histories.
edit: as for "OMG my employment history is preventing me from joining my dream corp" - your employment history is the convenient excuse, not the reason for you not getting into that corp (case in point: mandozer - I don't think there's any 0.0 alliance he hasn't joined (and awoxed), but his personality and entertainment value mean he'll always find a new home). TEST alt - don't trust. |

hennep
Institute for the Harmonious Development of Man
0
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:00:00 -
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Nah, history has a place, it lets people know what type of person you are, a few choice mails and they know if your an idiot, smart or just a plain dumb arsed cretin.
When i understood eve history (and in the past NPC corp standings) i bio-massed my main and started again, it was worth the lost SP.
Its an integral part of EvE, i was upset when NPC standings went, but understood that the database load of it could be excessive, so need for speed won out.
Oh and in real life getting rid of your history is not easy in fact these days its nigh on impossible, thank s to the internet, DNA testing, face recognition software but mainly of course peoples own stupidity. |

Roime
Ten Thousand Years Shinjiketo
2898
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:07:00 -
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Devil Fruit wrote: well it will help for guys just want it to be short
well most guys and girls want it to be long and thick
-á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars - |

Super spikinator
Hegemonous Conscripts Hegemonous Pandorum
173
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:23:00 -
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Wrayeth wrote:On a serious note, I wouldn't necessarily say that the corporation history should be cleaned so much as a notation made in the corp history when purchased by a new owner. That way the character's history is maintained, but it can still be made clear how much of that history belongs to the new owner.
I like this solution. Makes weeding out spies easier since we'll now be able to tell, at a glance, on when they were purchased. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
111
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Posted - 2013.05.21 07:28:00 -
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I am ready to step up and provide this service in the absence of CCP providing an alternative.
For the tidy sum of 500 million ISK and two PLEX, I will temporarily assume control of your character and biomass it, thereby cleaning the employment history. |
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