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CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 3132	Posted - 2013.05.21 14:31:00 - [1] - Quote The EVE Launcher will be upgraded with new features on May 21, 2013. This update will be performed automatically as soon as you start your current EVE Launcher. If the launcher doesn't automatically update as expected you can download the new EVE Launcher manually here: http://cdn1.eveonline.com/EveOnlineLauncher/release/EVEOnlineLauncher_2_1_539169.exe The main change is a new and improved landing page and a new login mechanism which will allow you to log into EVE Online using our SSO (single sign on) service. WeGÇÖve also included a new self-update mechanism in the EVE Launcher, which will make the update process for the EVE Launcher itself more reliable and allow us to deploy more updates as we work on improving the flow into the game. In addition to these features, weGÇÖve worked on a new version for the Mac which should also be deployed soon, which brings much closer parity between the Windows and Mac EVE Launchers, with a new embedded browser and low level tweaks to the EVE Launcher. A devblog about the EVE Launcher upgrade can be found here, further information about SSO is available here. We welcome all constructive feedback and comments and our developers will monitor the comments closely. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 235	Posted - 2013.05.21 14:48:00 - [2] - Quote It you're having exceptions, then please file a Bug Report or link us to some logs. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 235	Posted - 2013.05.21 14:55:00 - [3] - Quote For those reporting connection errors, are you able to connect to https://client.eveonline.com/launcherv3 and http://client.eveonline.com/patches/win_launcherinfoTQ_inc.txt Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 235	Posted - 2013.05.21 14:56:00 - [4] - Quote Korim Nadar wrote: Sorry, but I am very angry at the moment. The new launcher deleted ALL my settings AND my overview-settings. Try restarting the EVE Launcher. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 235	Posted - 2013.05.21 14:57:00 - [5] - Quote Drosera Capensis wrote: This thing wasn't working on Singularity properly either, I had to remove all the spaces in the EVE folder for it to work properly there. Anyway, my wife wants to extend her thanks to CCP for rolling out a launcher that is successfully preventing me from playing EVE. It would be great if you could supply us with your logs, or file a bug report with them. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Aporia C C P C C P Alliance 88	Posted - 2013.05.21 15:28:00 - [6] - Quote The connection issues are being investigated. This is a simple (but extremely annoying) case of our webservers not responding. If your settings are gone then please restart the client/launcher. This apparently was an issue that could happen with the old launcher update mechanism that we replaced with a better version. Senior Programmer Team Special Circumstances Friend of Walking Avatars


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 237	Posted - 2013.05.21 15:28:00 - [7] - Quote For those reporting that their settings have been deleted, this issue is simply solved by restarting the EVE Launcher. This happens due to the updater automatically starting the EVE Launcher after it has been updated, with incorrect path semantics. Secondly for those getting the offline mode webpage from within the EVE Launcher, this is because the EVE Launcher is timing out when attempting to connect to our webservers. We're currently looking into why the webservers aren't responding in a timely fashion, and hope to have this resolved as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 239	Posted - 2013.05.21 16:12:00 - [8] - Quote Tarchus wrote: REPAIR THIS: Error in atexit._run_exitfuncs: Traceback (most recent call last): File "atexit.pyc", line 24, in _run_exitfuncs File "checksum.pyc", line 187, in _teardown File "checksum.pyc", line 406, in close File "shelve.pyc", line 143, in close File "shelve.pyc", line 169, in sync File "bsddb\__init__.pyc", line 347, in sync File "bsddb\dbutils.pyc", line 68, in DeadlockWrap DBRunRecoveryError: (-30974, 'DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run database recovery -- PANIC: fatal region error detected; run recovery') Try running the repair.exe from the command line with the argument --safemode: repair.exe --safemode Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 3865	Posted - 2013.05.21 18:16:00 - [9] - Quote We've put up a thread for possible workaround here as well: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238230&find=unread Not that there's much to report that hasn't been covered in this thread. At the moment there's no solution that works for all use cases that we know of. What I can tell you is that that investigation into what is causing the massive load issues to our web servers is underway and we're not going home until this is fixed. We're really sorry for all the trouble. CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard


CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 3134	Posted - 2013.05.21 18:21:00 - [10] - Quote Kale Freeman wrote: CCP, for the love of god please post something in this thread to tell us that you are working on the problem. Our dev teams are indeed working on fixing the whole issue with top priority. Unfortunately in situations like these we cannot predict any ETA and giving a time frame would be very irresponsible. Be assured though that we are working as hard as possible to find a proper solution as fast as possible. As CCP Guard pointed already to further background information in this news article and in that thread. Please also accept our apologies for this unfortunate chain of events. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager



CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 3137	Posted - 2013.05.21 18:26:00 - [11] - Quote Obunagawe wrote: Posting voicelessly in a bloated thread that will not be read. Be assured that we read this thread (and all others too) carefully as player feedback is very important to us. We update you with information as soon as we receive them from our incredible busy developers, sometimes it is best though to keep the experts doing their job uninterrupted for a while while they are developing a solution. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager


CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 3140	Posted - 2013.05.21 18:53:00 - [12] - Quote Noddy Comet wrote: CCP Phantom wrote: Kale Freeman wrote: CCP, for the love of god please post something in this thread to tell us that you are working on the problem. Our dev teams are indeed working on fixing the whole issue with top priority. Unfortunately in situations like these we cannot predict any ETA and giving a time frame would be very irresponsible. Be assured though that we are working as hard as possible to find a proper solution as fast as possible. As CCP Guard pointed already to further background information in this news article and in that thread. Please also accept our apologies for this unfortunate chain of events. Perhaps this info (Along with what CCP Guard has dropped in on the conversation) should be edited into the FIRST POST in the thread, so we don't need to click through endless pages and every blue post to see what the latest status is? CCP Guard wrote: We've put up a thread for possible workaround here as well: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238230&find=unread Not that there's much to report that hasn't been covered in this thread. At the moment there's no solution that works for all use cases that we know of. What I can tell you is that that investigation into what is causing the massive load issues to our web servers is underway and we're not going home until this is fixed. We're really sorry for all the trouble. Just sayin.... I added the information a while ago but forgot to actually push the "post" button ... Thank you for the notification! CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager


CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 3869	Posted - 2013.05.21 19:07:00 - [13] - Quote Magnus Musana wrote: At this point, I am considering deleting and redownloading the entire game file... it might be easier for me. I am more mechanically then technologically inclined. If I could use duct tape, bailing wire, and a BFH to fix it, I'd be playing already. Also... would a bonus remap be out of the question for the inconvenience of not getting to shoot rocks? You will need the latest patch that was released today in order to log into TQ so unless your call is processed by the web servers and you get in to update, you'd be in the same situation I'm sorry to say :/ CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard


CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 3143	Posted - 2013.05.21 19:11:00 - [14] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: If it were a launcher problem only, then the repair tool would work and we'd all be playing EVE right now. It's obviously a deeper problem than that, since the repair tool doesn't work either. That is correct. Our web servers handling the client update process and version checking (used by the repair tool and the EVE Launcher) are malfunctioning to some degree resulting in long waiting times on requests and many timeouts. As end result the repair tool will often not properly update the client in a timely fashion and the EVE Launcher will show an offline status. According to my information the EVE Launcher itself is not "broken" but the services required by the EVE Launcher are. Our developers are still working hard to fix this issue. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager


CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 3869	Posted - 2013.05.21 19:14:00 - [15] - Quote deeks87 deacon wrote: Thanks CCP for loosing me my quick bar i lost over 200 items i use to trade and make money. Now I'm going to have to sit for 2 hours looking for the best items i traded in :( i foresee a financial loss of over 400m in that time. I'm sure some compo is due maybe a titan will suffice :) Have you tried closing the client and the launcher and then re-launching? It should restore your in-game settings. CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard


CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 3148	Posted - 2013.05.21 20:51:00 - [16] - Quote The server issue got fixed and the EVE Launcher should be able to update and connect properly to Tranquility now. Again we apologize for the issues caused by these server troubles. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager


CCP Alice C C P C C P Alliance 124	Posted - 2013.05.21 20:51:00 - [17] - Quote Quick update - we've found the issue, everyone should now be able to update and log in via the new launcher. CCP Alice --áWeb Architect-á "There is no knowledge without unity"


CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 3149	Posted - 2013.05.21 21:02:00 - [18] - Quote F Koval wrote: CCP Phantom wrote: The server issue got fixed and the EVE Launcher should be able to update and connect properly to Tranquility now. Again we apologize for the issues caused by these server troubles. But all my settings are gone... Please close your EVE Clients and the EVE Launcher and then restart the EVE Launcher again. When you start the EVE Launcher the first time it looks for your settings in the wrong place, that is fixed as soon as you start the EVE Launcher the next time, then it will load the settings from the correct location. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 243	Posted - 2013.05.21 23:32:00 - [19] - Quote Regarding users running from Steam: when you start the client from Steam the EVE Launcher throws an exception along the lines of "Sorry an error occurred while processing your request" followed by an error code. We are aware of this issue, and can reproduce it in house and we're working on a fix. In the mean time you can work around the problem by starting the EVE client from outside of Steam. To find the EVE installation associated with your Steam account, right click EVE Online in your Steam library and goto Properties, and from there select the Local Files tab and click the Browse Local Files button. This should open a window showing your EVE installation. From here simply double click eve.exe. If you're still experiencing issues after using this work around, please file a bug report and attach the logs from the EVE Launcher that will be found inside the launcher\cache folder. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 243	Posted - 2013.05.21 23:55:00 - [20] - Quote Regarding the traditional login scene and log off options: I mentioned this in another forum thread (here). The traditional login screen and functionality still exists, and many people have been bypassing the EVE Launcher and accessing it to restore the old functionality. The new login functionality that we deployed today is designed to start changing the way users log into the EVE Universe; whilst it is often true that one shouldn't change something if it isn't broken, such a clich+¬ doesn't allow for changing priorities. Our goal was that by rolling out the new login method, and supporting the single sign on service, we could lay the groundwork to start moving people away from the messy multiboxing setups that have traditionally never been supported by us as a company, and towards something that makes more sense for CCP and the services we provide. To expand on this point, there are a number of exotic setups for multiboxing involving either multiple physical installs of the game, hybrid symlinks, junctions, soft links, hard links, partial copies and more. And in almost every single case people multi box for one reason: to be able to have individual setups for their settings, or to hasten the login flow. The deployment today, as difficult and bad as it was (for which I apologise) was to deploy the single sign on service, through which we can start to work on these issues. My hope is that in the end, you will be able to log into the EVE Launcher once, which downloads your settings from the cloud, with all of your accounts linked, via either a single EVE master account or via some other OAuth provider, and be able to select characters and switch between them at the click of a single button. As for the log off button, many people don't really use it to log off from the game, but rather as a quick means to quit the game and restart at the login screen. The new token based authentication that the EVE Launcher uses isn't cleared by the EVE client, and so when it attempts to restart, it will actually attempt to reconnect with expired credentials which would throw an error message. It isn't perfect though, and we will be working on a fix for this tomorrow and in the coming days. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances



CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 244	Posted - 2013.05.22 00:05:00 - [21] - Quote Regarding missing EVE settings: this is a bug in the initial installer of the new update that people had to upgrade from the old Launcher to the new one. The installer automatically starts the EVE Launcher after the update, but does so with what's known as a short Windows path. A short path is in the style of EVE-ON~1 or PROGRA~1. In this instance, the working directory in this short format is inherited by the EVE client which then tries to make a unique folder name based upon the directory it thinks it is in, and the server it is connecting to. This is the unique location that your settings are stored in. Note, this folder still exists. To work around the issue, you simply need to restart the EVE Launcher and any clients that it started. The new instance of the EVE Launcher will not have this short path, and so what would have been an (incorrect) path of c_builds_eve-on~1_tranquility is correctly interpretive as c_builds_eve-online_tranquility. I'm currently working on a fix for this installer, when not answering forum threads, and I'm hoping to get it out as soon as I can. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 244	Posted - 2013.05.22 00:09:00 - [22] - Quote Regarding the slow startup time of the new EVE Launcher: the first time the new EVE Launcher starts up, it needs to determine the state of your client installation. This requires it to analyse every file in your installation. This will take some time, since the EVE client is somewhere around 12Gb in size. However, after this point, the checksums will be saved in the Launcher's cache folder. Clearing out the Launcher's cache folder will obviously delete this file, requiring you to re-analyse your installation. If people are finding that they need to spend a lengthy amount of time analysing their installation every time they start up, I would beg them to file a bug reporting, and provide the logs that their Launcher is generating, and saving into it's cache folder. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 244	Posted - 2013.05.22 00:12:00 - [23] - Quote Regarding the two processes that the EVE Launcher starts: the EVE Launcher has a bootstrapping application that loads a versioned EVE Launcher. When one of these closes, the other one should close too, however we've seen in a few instances one of them waits whilst it writes out pending buffers to disk. If launcher.exe processes are regularly hanging on shutdown, as above, I would beg for people to file a bug report and attach logs of the problem. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 245	Posted - 2013.05.22 00:16:00 - [24] - Quote Regarding usernames not being remembered by the login dialog: I ran across an issue earlier today where if I entered a new username whilst the dropdown dialog was open, with another name highlighted, when I tabbed on to the password field, the highlighted name in the dropdown took priority. I filed this as a defect and I'm hopeful that we can push out a fix for it as soon as possible. Any other usability issues or defects with the username/password input I would like to hear about. If they're defects, a bug report would be best, but I'm happy to have a dialog about the design and intent of the site. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 245	Posted - 2013.05.22 00:29:00 - [25] - Quote Valeria Crossroads wrote: The launcher only remembers the last 7 accounts. I have way more than that. I really hope you guys do not expect me to type the account names over and over again. How many accounts do you have? Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 245	Posted - 2013.05.22 00:32:00 - [26] - Quote Also, in case it needs reiterating, we really need the detailed logs that the Launcher writes out to it's cache folder to be able to help diagnose what's gone wrong in the situations where people are still failing to log in/update/patch or whatever. Please, please, please file a bug report and attach the logs. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 245	Posted - 2013.05.22 00:35:00 - [27] - Quote Coffee Rocks wrote: EDIT: Forget it, I fixed it myself. Had to track down new exe file and use it that way. Please read my post regarding Steam users here Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 245	Posted - 2013.05.22 00:49:00 - [28] - Quote Calathorn Virpio wrote: CCP Atropos wrote: Also, in case it needs reiterating, we really need the detailed logs that the Launcher writes out to it's cache folder to be able to help diagnose what's gone wrong in the situations where people are still failing to log in/update/patch or whatever. Please, please, please file a bug report and attach the logs. not everyone knows what these logs are or where to find them...... Yea, I just edited my original post to highlight that, thanks for the tip Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 3876	Posted - 2013.05.22 11:02:00 - [29] - Quote Solution for everyone losing their settings: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3069509#post3069509 CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 262	Posted - 2013.05.22 11:19:00 - [30] - Quote Daeron Shadowrunner wrote: Cevin North wrote: Dear CCP, you may claim to have fixed this issue but in fact it is not fixed for all users. Probebly only those running widows can use your client, but those running linux sure a shell can nnot run the game trough the launcher becouse the login part of the launcher simply does not show and stays blank. It would be nice to know what resources you are using now, that you have not used before (like specialised fonts) so we can install these to get the game working we pay you so dearly for. Telling linux users to use windows will get lots of laughter, but yeah..... I run windows and launcher simply does not work. The only time I got ingame today I had to restart my pc over and over and finally it worked (once and only once). I got logged out and now it is impossibl e to login. Could you please file a bug report and attach the EVE Launcher logs that should be under the launcher\cache folder in your EVE installation? Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances



CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 3876	Posted - 2013.05.22 13:21:00 - [31] - Quote AndromacheDarkstar wrote: CCP Guard wrote: Solution for everyone losing their settings: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3069509#post3069509 So this is a workaround for one problem, is there any word on fixing all of the other issues that the launcher has caused. Id also love to know if CCP had figures on how many of its customers had actually disabled the previous launcher. It seems like this is a really really unwelcome change . Some of of the issues people are talking about aren't things the Community team can point out a workaround to. All issues that don't have workarounds will have to be looked at by the developers and either they themselves or us will keep you posted on any updates on that front. CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard


CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 3876	Posted - 2013.05.22 13:38:00 - [32] - Quote Steijn wrote: CCP Guard wrote: AndromacheDarkstar wrote: CCP Guard wrote: Solution for everyone losing their settings: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3069509#post3069509 So this is a workaround for one problem, is there any word on fixing all of the other issues that the launcher has caused. Id also love to know if CCP had figures on how many of its customers had actually disabled the previous launcher. It seems like this is a really really unwelcome change . Some of of the issues people are talking about aren't things the Community team can point out a workaround to. All issues that don't have workarounds will have to be looked at by the developers and either they themselves or us will keep you posted on any updates on that front. Why was this rush released when its obviously not ready? Is it because you need it running before June 4th? We cannot give you all the answers right at this moment. At the moment people are either having meetings to go through this and/or working on solutions. It would be rash to say too much right now. We can only ask for your patience while we decide the next steps and we will get back to you with any information that we have to share. CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard


CCP TheRambler C C P C C P Alliance 0	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:36:00 - [33] - Quote Hi, a quick update from Team Roundhouse Kick here: we read your feedback and we deployed on Sisi a new version of the launcher webpage that adds an autoplay feature in the form of a checkbox on the right bottom corner. If checked, the launcher will start the client as soon as the user is logged in and the client is ready, so no additional click is required on your part. If you don't want this to happen, just uncheck it, the launcher will remember your setting either way. This feature was tested internally and now we would like your feedback before pushing it to TQ, please use this thread here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=230690 Thanks!


CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 3876	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:49:00 - [34] - Quote No Alibi wrote: Hell, I would like it to remember my password as well (as an option) Yes. Seems to be working. Will we have to accept the EULA every time??? First time logging on, all settings were gone. Relogged and they were returned.. The EULA should not appear every time. Apparently a localization backend update accidentally prompted players to have to re-accept the EULA after today's downtime but from here on you should only have to re-accept when we make changes to the text which shouldn't be a common thing. CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard


CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 3876	Posted - 2013.05.22 18:20:00 - [35] - Quote Hey everyone. We've had a meeting where we discussed what went wrong around the deployment of the launcher as well as the issues many of you have had with the launcher, the community reaction and our next steps. We realize that communication hasn't been up to par in the last 24 hours. We've mostly focused on messaging workarounds to specific issues in this thread but we haven't been able to address the situation in its entirety. We will be working on writing a dissection of what went wrong yesterday, as well as an FAQ on the launcher, specific problems, and what our next steps are in improving your experience. This is just the heads up. I wanted you to know that we are working full force over here to make things right with you. Please bear with us for now. CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 268	Posted - 2013.05.23 15:48:00 - [36] - Quote Dzen Avi wrote: I get this instead of launching the game((( Error -324 when loading url https://login.eveonline.com/oauth/authorize/?client_id=eveLauncherTQ&lang=en&response_type=token&redirect_uri=https://login.eveonline.com/launcher?client_id=eveLauncherTQ&scope=eveClientToken http://i48.fastpic.ru/big/2013/0523/5f/d62eed0f621d5ac667b9bda73ee7c85f.jpg Can you tell me some about your environment? This errorcode means that the response from the server was empty. Can you supply us with the logs from the Launcher, found under launcher\cache in your EVE installation and hopefully the debug.log in the root of your EVE install. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 268	Posted - 2013.05.23 15:50:00 - [37] - Quote Steijn wrote: Ginger Barbarella wrote: Trisha Amber wrote: the launcher is not saving the username. every time i open the launcher i have to keep putting in my username. its really annoying me as i have 9 accounts. If you're not running as an Admin-equivalent user, you might consider granting your user Write privs on the Program Files\CCP (or whatever it's now called) folder (if you're using Windows directly). If you're using Mac or running from Steam, I can't offer any suggestions. Even as Admin the launcher only saves 1 username, it doesnt allow you to scroll down to the relevent name and then input the pw. If possible, could you provide me with the Launcher logs from the launcher\cache folder in your EVE installation and if one exists, the debug.log found in the root of your EVE installation. If the browser isn't saving the usernames I need those logs to be able to work out why; is it a permissions issue, some weird misconfiguration or an environment issue. If you don't want to post the logs publicly, then please file a bug report. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Atropos C C P C C P Alliance 268	Posted - 2013.05.23 16:07:00 - [38] - Quote Ginger Barbarella wrote: Quick update: I noticed that if you have the "Close the Eve Launcher" checkbox selected in the Launcher it will not remember the credentials you logged in with if it wasn't already saved. Clear that checkbox, re-launch the Launcher, and try a different, unsaved account name. It should save it at that point. \o/ Edit: I'm looking into this now, if I can get a fix, I'll roll it to Singularity. Product Owner, EVE Launcher \| Team Special Circumstances


CCP Guard C C P C C P Alliance 3890	Posted - 2013.05.23 19:09:00 - [39] - Quote Hey everyone. CCP Atropos has posted a round-up thread in GD which is intended to be the place where we will continue this discussion with a focus on solutions and improvements that will be rolled out in the coming days and weeks. I encourage all of you interested in this discussion to read what we've posted there already and continue the discussion with us there. Since this thread was started, some of the issues which prompted a participation in it have been solved while others remain, so as to focus the discussion and make it easier on both you and us moving forward, we are going to close this thread. Thank you all for your feedback thus far. --- The new thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=239146&find=unread CCP Guard \| EVE Community Developer \|-á@ccp_guard

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