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CCP Eterne
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:44:00 -
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A big part of Odyssey is helping players feel more connected with the world of EVE Online. While dropdown menus and the current UI does a cromulent job of presenting information, CCP Sharq is here with a dev blog on our new Radial Menu to help ease your day-to-day experience of piloting through EVE. New Eden Community Representative GÇ+ New Eden Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:48:00 -
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Yay, radial menu... let us know what you think :) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP Sharq
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:54:00 -
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Hey Pilots!
As CCP Karkur said, tell us what you think about the Radial Menu revamp. CCP Sharq | Team PE |
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CCP Sharq
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:55:00 -
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CCP Sharq wrote:Hey Pilots!
As CCP Karkur said, tell us what you think about the Radial Menu revamp.
EDIT: karkur with a lowercase 'k' CCP Sharq | Team PE |
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CCP Sharq
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 15:05:00 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote:Touch screen interface incoming! I can't wait.
EDIT: And why is "To Captain's Quarters" an option on the right-click menu for a ship in your hangar? Unless it does something awesome like drop the Rifter in your CQ? It might be worth revisiting those menus...
That could be a bonus we get out of this! but not our first priority when we started this project. CCP Sharq | Team PE |
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CCP Sharq
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 15:12:00 -
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Markus Reese wrote:Eve had a radial menu?
HAS... Click and hold left mouse button on a bracket in the world-space, radial menu appears. CCP Sharq | Team PE |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 15:18:00 -
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Rengerel en Distel wrote: Don't believe they're keeping the option of the middle mouse button, which is a shame with how much the thing lags out now.
They are... at this very moment I'm changing it so you can map it to any of the mouse buttons and also change the delay 
And we are working on the lag, and I believe it's solved for the most parts  CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP Bro
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 15:26:00 -
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Bubanni wrote:I would like some customization of how long it takes to trigger the radial menu, or even a key to hold down to trigger it instantly when clicking on something in space... as an alternative to having to old down the mouse for a sec...
even if you only add a function in the shortcut menu under ESC, that people have to add their own desired key to, that would be enough... say I wanted the radial to show up instantly when I left clicked on something, I just have to add a key like < or alt or whatever... and then hold that down + mouse 1.
it might be useful to also allow people to change what mouse number to click to activate the radial menu, such as using the center mouse (3).
CCP karkur wrote:Rengerel en Distel wrote: Don't believe they're keeping the option of the middle mouse button, which is a shame with how much the thing lags out now.
They are... at this very moment I'm changing it so you can map it to any of the mouse buttons and also change the delay  And we are working on the lag, and I believe it's solved for the most parts 
Answered before you asked ;) CCP karkur and team are one step ahead it appears! |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 15:53:00 -
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Max Kolonko wrote:One huge problem - when holding middle mouse button (my voice activation key) and clicking LMP radial menu opens without delay or even holding mouse button, just clicking on things
I had not set MMP to "radial menu" shortcut (i have none defined) so this should not happen I think you are talking about a bug that has not been fixed on Sisi (where you used the radial menu shortcut once and it kept acting like it was still down) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 16:51:00 -
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Dirk Space wrote:How do you turn off the radial menu?
I stopped playing for a year when I was forced to use the integrated inventory UI, which still causes me headaches, but came back because I missed the social side.
I, reluctantly, have to use the integrated inventory UI, I do not want to be forced to use a system that is not what is best for me but developers think is.
Please make sure that this is optional.
Also, please revert back to the old inventory UI. It's not going to be "optional", but will be able to map it to a different mouse button, and change the delay so you can kind of disable it yourself... but I hope you do give it a chance for at least 1 day  CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 17:38:00 -
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Darvaleth Sigma wrote:Sorry if it's been answered already (tl;dr), but will the old-fashioned right-click menus still have all the same options as now? Or will the ones on the radial menu be forcibly divorced from the right-click menu we all know and love, plunging us into the abysmal depths of despair and destitute mental poverty?
I'm not saying the radial menu won't be a good thing (not at all), but for people who want to keep it as it is (and there will be a lot of them), will CCP support this? we are not touching the right click menu  CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 18:04:00 -
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Darnok Iksnibiks wrote:Does the radial menu sense context on what I want to click in space? Or, I need to hit and hover L-click exactly on icon I want to interact with? Biggest pain with old/current menu was to hit moving objects... Particularly frigs/inties... Or any item in space from MWD frig perspective.
Additionally, how many sub-menus on 3 o'clock "+" button I need to dig, til I can warp to moon/POCO at 100km, when pointing on planet or empty space? By r-click menu its like : r click --> planets --> moons --> warp at --> 100km when pointing anywhere in space. When clicking on planet itself, it's one step less, but still few to many.
With regards The picking in space is the same, but you can use the new one in your overview and on targets too. To warp to a moon at 100 km, click on it, get the radial menu, go to the warp option and drag the mouse out to set the range. CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP Sharq
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 19:54:00 -
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Sir Livingston wrote:Well you already know what I think of it. Don't you, CCP Sharq  Well done
Yep! Your review explained the radial menu pretty well. Keep up the good work! CCP Sharq | Team PE |
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CCP Sharq
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:12:00 -
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indiana bones wrote:Can you spam click on targets with it?
Sort of, but I think using shortcuts (CTRL+Click) does that better CCP Sharq | Team PE |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 20:55:00 -
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Dirk Space wrote:I am open-minded enough to give it a go but if I don't like it, if it ruins my eve experience like the integrated inventory did, what then? Thanks for keeping an open mind 
If you don't like it, bind it to one of the extra mouse buttons and set a long delay, and I'm sure it won't be in your way. You could also just bind it to he left button and have a long delay, and then it shouldn't be in your way, but you could bring it up if you want it (either by using the shortcut to bypass the delay or wait it out).
We should at least not panic right now  Try it out on Sisi if you guys get a chance. I have checked in the mousebutton binding and delay change, but I am not sure when Sisi will be updated, but probably either tomorrow or the next day.
I have never used the radial menu we have on TQ today, but when I was playing on TQ over the weekend, I was really missing my new radial menu when I was jumping through gates and docking and stuff  CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP Sharq
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:44:00 -
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Darirol wrote:1. primary action for a ship in space should be lock it except for switching supercapital pilots in a super/titan i cant remember a single case where i encountered a situation where i want to board a ship.
2. i have not tested it, but it should also work for watchlist and broadcast window. (locking goes fast with ctrl click, but for align/warp orbit stuff it would probably nice)
We started the design by having lock as primary action for ships. The problem with that is that is makes locking inconsistent when locking stuff with other actions attached as primary. So this is what we did. Lock is always in the same place no matter what you are locking CCP Sharq | Team PE |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:06:00 -
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Captain Semper wrote:CCP, i will be realy greatful if you will make hotkey for radial menu and it will open instantly (w/o delay with LCM press on for a moment). For example alt+LCM (or other combination, make it custom option) on brecet, object in overview or other condition when radial menu appears. So alt+LCM and we "summon" (have no idea how to say :) ) radial menu. ok we'll do it... and we are done.... wow, that was easy  The shortcut is set in the ESC menu, under "General" (ok, I'll admit that I had already implemented it like that ) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.05.27 22:26:00 -
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Kito Fernandez wrote:I already hate the radial menu in space, it keeps popping up when I only want to move the camera to look around... there is such a thing as too interactive Then increase the delay  CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Pony Express | @CCP karkur |
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