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Jester87	Posted - 2005.10.20 22:30:00 - [1] Edited by: Jester87 on 20/10/2005 22:30:23 Post PVP setups especially those with excellent range (Cruise Missles) Thanks
Ortu Konsinni	Posted - 2005.10.20 22:41:00 - [2] There's no short or long range setup with cruise missiles... As there are no modules that boost a missile's speed or flight time, all you can do to boost these values is train the appropriate skills. For your setup, any setup you feel is good, with 6 cruise launchers, will do the job. --- Ortu Konsinni Diplomatic delegate French Force Alliance -- l'alliance des francophones Web site : http://destabiliser.com/ffa/
Jester87	Posted - 2005.10.20 22:45:00 - [3] Thats not really my question.. I know cruise missles are good for long range and what not, I needa know what other modules to use on a raven for pvp. Ie. med slots, low slots.. tanks.
Frigalt	Posted - 2005.10.20 22:59:00 - [4] 6x Cruise Launcher IIs 2x Heavy Nos 3x Sensor Boosters 3x Tracking Disrupter IIs/Sensor Dampener IIs 5x BCU For fleet etc.
Jester87	Posted - 2005.10.20 23:03:00 - [5] Edited by: Jester87 on 20/10/2005 23:02:53 Sorry but y 3 sensor boosters? with 1 f-90 meh range in 190km?
Frigalt	Posted - 2005.10.20 23:06:00 - [6] Lock time, and I think you're mistaken with having a lock range of 190k with a single sensor booster. My base lock range is 90km (LRT 4), with cruise missile having a potential ~250km range.
Ortu Konsinni	Posted - 2005.10.20 23:07:00 - [7] Three sensor boosters will just boost your scan resolution better than just one -- i.e. you'll lock faster. Sensor boosters augment both your max locking range and your scan resolution. --- Ortu Konsinni Diplomatic delegate French Force Alliance -- l'alliance des francophones Web site : http://destabiliser.com/ffa/
Ryysa	Posted - 2005.10.20 23:35:00 - [8] Edited by: Ryysa on 20/10/2005 23:37:23 EW Raven... pretty nasty thing, MC flies this config a lot: High: 6x Cruise, 2x Heavy Nos (or 2x whatever) Mid: 4x Multispectral T2, 1x sensor booster T2, 20km scrambler Low: 3x BCS & 2x WCS or 2x BCS, 1600mm plate and 2x WCS This doesn't work over 60km though, and needs EW skills... But hey, i don't see how u can snipe in a raven... like... wtf... even a dread can probably warp out before your missiles actually hit him from 150-200km range :D Oh and if you're not gonna solo with it, change that 20km scram for another sensor booster or a painter maybe... __________________________________________ All about target jamming...
Jester87	Posted - 2005.10.20 23:44:00 - [9] Im sorry, But I consider any PVP setup with a WCS to be terrible... Thanks for your effot.. I dont plan on running away from a fight.
Randay	Posted - 2005.10.21 00:00:00 - [10] Originally by: Jester87 Im sorry, But I consider any PVP setup with a WCS to be terrible... Thanks for your effot.. I dont plan on running away from a fight. Q F T ------------------------------------------- "Det hõr kan betyda krig!"
Frigalt	Posted - 2005.10.21 00:01:00 - [11] lolz.
Franky B	Posted - 2005.10.21 00:34:00 - [12] Originally by: Jester87 Im sorry, But I consider any PVP setup with a WCS to be terrible... Thanks for your effot.. I dont plan on running away from a fight. adapt. "tactical withdrawl"
Trelennen	Posted - 2005.10.21 00:43:00 - [13] Originally by: Ryysa This doesn't work over 60km though, and needs EW skills... But hey, i don't see how u can snipe in a raven... like... wtf... even a dread can probably warp out before your missiles actually hit him from 150-200km range :D Hum, don't fly a raven at all (nor any BS), but couldn't a Passive Targeter help here? At least you could rip off targets which don't consider you as their ennemy, as you'd have fired several salvos of cruise missiles before they notice it. Dunno how useful it could be though, it's just a thought. Quote: dont fly what you cant afford to lose, always have it insured, make sure you can replace it before you take it into 0.0 or any potentially kaboomish situations.
Krulla	Posted - 2005.10.21 00:48:00 - [14] Edited by: Krulla on 21/10/2005 00:48:34 Originally by: Jester87 Im sorry, But I consider any PVP setup with a WCS to be terrible... Thanks for your effot.. I dont plan on running away from a fight. Wow, you are so hardcore. WCS are for carebears, right? Whatever. -_- People who don't use WCS "'cus it's not cool" are simply put, idiotic. Which would you rather lose, your ship to that 10 on 1 gank, or your cool? Respect the Domi. Or else.
Shalnar	Posted - 2005.10.21 01:03:00 - [15] Jester drop me a convo next time you see me online. I'II help you out.
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2005.10.21 07:47:00 - [16] Theoretically, a Raven can Lock/Cruise upto ~250km. With max skills and sensor boosters. But the missile is still going to take soemthing like 45 seconds to get there. 23? # Missile Tool # ex: P-TMC : USAC
Corvus Crax	Posted - 2005.10.21 08:05:00 - [17] Raven is a close combat vessel. It's just in PVE and in CCP's dreams that the raven is a long range ship. But I love it in pvp at long range, and in any fight against a battleship at close range with torpedos. But if you are going long range with cruise missiles I would say do an armourtank(no plates please..it's like the slowest ship around to begin with) and sensorboosters and racialjammers in midslots. If you are in a fleet with some buddies and there are only two of them or so, you might have time to hit with a salvo or two. My personal favorite is giving up the armourtank and putting four 1400mm's and four cruise launchers on the raven. It works pretty ok in smaller fleets
Elfaen Ethenwe	Posted - 2005.10.21 08:05:00 - [18] with level 4+ in the various missile skills I have 206km range with my cruise. Flight time = 28 seconds. A sniping raven is only useful for slow pokes approaching the gate from 15km or for hitting camps. At that range only insane skilled scorp pilots can jam you. One problem though is that unlike any other sniper setup you cant insta pop ceptors that are stupid enough to fly at you. However even the fastest would take 25 seconds or so to reach you. Sit there with an eagle or something similar to pop them and you will ve safe. Based on the assumption that they will take 1 salvo before they begin warpout you should be able to hit with at least 2 or 3 salvos based on a 30 second alignment and warp time. Personally I would rather get in close with torps with the skills stated above I can reach 90km with my torps
FowlPlayChiken	Posted - 2005.10.21 11:23:00 - [19] wcs suck. but if your using a plated raven with no real tank to speak of, you need to be able to warp if called primary
Anjerrai Meloanis	Posted - 2005.10.21 14:04:00 - [20] Just a question, wouldnt a fleet of ravens attacking a pos at 250km be quite effective in being out of range of the guns? uh.
Corvus Crax	Posted - 2005.10.21 14:09:00 - [21] Originally by: Anjerrai Meloanis Just a question, wouldnt a fleet of ravens attacking a pos at 250km be quite effective in being out of range of the guns? It sure would if cruisemissiles did enough damage to overcome the natural shieldregen of a pos ;) Basically it's the same with the raven as with all other ships. You give up power to get range. This is something that is going more and more haywire in the caldari ranks. And we all know that long range pvp is only sniping with big guns...long range pvp and missiles are two things that don't match at all.... you can't scramble and you can't hit them before they warp out...well...that's a dilemma...
B0rn2KiLL	Posted - 2005.10.21 14:13:00 - [22] thou shalt not snipeth useth thou raven. thou shalt torp them upclose. and show them the ways of caldari. suicideraven setups 6x sieg launchers. prefrably arbalest\malkuth 1 XL t2 shield booster. 1 shield boost amp 1 cap recharger 2 3x target painter 2 5x bcu II's, or I's --- When It Absolutely Positively Has To Be Desotroyed.
Omatje	Posted - 2005.10.21 14:54:00 - [23] Look mum, a flying Christmas tree! and it is coming to us! "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him"
Ryysa	Posted - 2005.10.21 15:39:00 - [24] Well, while people troll on forum how lame WCS are, a lot actually use 1-2 WCS... If you are "hardcore" and don't want to use WCS on that raven setup i posted, just use 3x BCS, 2x 1600mm plate (need adv. weap upgrades to fit). Jeez. __________________________________________ All about target jamming...
xPreatorianx	Posted - 2005.10.21 16:38:00 - [25] a real good setup well whut i have seen from fighting be is Highs:6x seige or crusie 2Xheavy nos Meds:all t2 damps Lows:wcs they are extremely hard to kill.
CptEagle	Posted - 2005.10.21 16:54:00 - [26] Sniper Raven setup? Thats like a real life sniper thats using a bazooka.
DrunkenOne	Posted - 2005.10.21 17:17:00 - [27] Originally by: xPreatorianx a real good setup well whut i have seen from fighting be is Highs:6x seige or crusie 2Xheavy nos Meds:all t2 damps Lows:wcs they are extremely hard to kill. aka the burn eden faction raven
Gort	Posted - 2005.10.21 20:18:00 - [28] Originally by: DrunkenOne Originally by: xPreatorianx a real good setup well whut i have seen from fighting be is Highs:6x seige or crusie 2Xheavy nos Meds:all t2 damps Lows:wcs they are extremely hard to kill. aka the burn eden faction raven Yep, and if it works against the "standard set up" one needs to figure out how to deal with it. Tbh, it's kind of refreshing to see something other than who's got the most gyros, etc. Sometimes I use them, most times I don't. It's up to the other side to deal with it. Imo, it's part of the tactical aspect of the game. There are ways (but not easy ways) to deal with ships set up this way. It's a matter of using them. Regards, Gort Makeup artist for the dead
Jester87	Posted - 2005.10.21 21:07:00 - [29] My ship.... As its a game and can be replaced.. Thanks.
Shirei	Posted - 2005.10.22 15:54:00 - [30] Originally by: Krulla People who don't use WCS "'cus it's not cool" are simply put, idiotic. Which would you rather lose, your ship to that 10 on 1 gank, or your cool? If you lose your ship to a 10v1 gank, that's not an issue with not enough wcs, but your scout ******* up.

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