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Molly
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: Molly on 04/08/2003 02:33:30 I have been pirating outside empire space only. I felt empire space should protect innocent people.
Since CONCORD started to harass me outside empire space in 0.0 solar systems with no sovereignity by lowering my security rating and GMs will not set it back, I decided to harass them in empire space. Them and the people they protect.
Blowing up Industrial Class ships and CONCORD ships in the 1.0 super highway hub systems like Yulai, Pator, Amarr, New Caldari, which
- do not have sentry guns, - do not have CONCORD attack people with negative security rating who travel there, - have a lot of traffic
will be done until CONCORD stops eating donuts and ****ing and starts to protect their space or until they stop changing my security rating outside their space like they did it in http://eve.screaming-fist.org/2003.07.31.17.18.33.bmp.
1.0 is unsafe now. Beware. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:39:00 -
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Go for it Molly 
PS - stop using bitmaps eh? There's plenty of good bmp->jpeg convertors freely available....
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:41:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 04/08/2003 02:43:23
"Since CONCORD started to harass me outside empire space in 0.0 solar systems with no sovereignity by lowering my security rating and GMs will not set it back, I decided to harass them in empire space."
... how is them recording in their little black books you attack/blow people up 'harassing you', exactly?..
Would understand if the problem was they go out and try to hunt you in 0.0 due to the security rating, but just keeping tabs on what you do seems like sensible thing to do... o.O
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agrizla
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:45:00 -
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Because she was in Providence which is claimed by no faction. You can kill Sansha's all day every day and it will not give you a worse rating towards them. It's not only 0.0 non-Empire space, it's 0.0 non-ANYTHING space 
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.04 02:53:00 -
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"Because she was in Providence which is claimed by no faction."
I understand; however it makes sense for the police to record someone is attacking people, if just to remember to keep an eye on them shall they enter the empire space. Now if the imperial police actually tried to go out and attack that person in the unclaimed area, it'd be clearly messed up...
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glacius
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Posted - 2003.08.04 03:38:00 -
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is it that hard to convert something to jpg
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Myrmex
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Posted - 2003.08.04 03:46:00 -
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a little harder than to make a reply asking for it :)
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.08.04 03:53:00 -
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Quote: "Because she was in Providence which is claimed by no faction."
I understand; however it makes sense for the police to record someone is attacking people, if just to remember to keep an eye on them shall they enter the empire space. Now if the imperial police actually tried to go out and attack that person in the unclaimed area, it'd be clearly messed up...
But there isn't supposed to be a police presence outside empire space. So who's doing the recording? 
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Setec
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Posted - 2003.08.04 03:56:00 -
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CCP and CONCORD have forced some unfortunate modifications to my pirating style.
For example, the prevalence of microwarpdrives and warp core stabilizers on many industrials, as well as ridiculous immunity timers and near-instajump gates, means that it's no longer really possible for me to freeze them, scan their cargo and demand a toll without using a team with such extremely specialized loadouts that they're weak for combat (I'm talking like 2 sensor boosters 4 stasis webifiers on a blackbird, etc... that kind of specialization). The sentry guns in empire space severely limit the available camp points to locations which often don't have optimally far warp-in points. Many of the few sentry-free gates in empire chokepoints are nearly insta-jump.
So my "properly roleplayed" style of somewhat gentlemanly robbery is no longer practical in many situatioins, courtesy of CCP. What does this mean to victims? It means that many times now we must simply blow people up and hope to make something off the loot, instead of giving them a chance to pay and survive. In the case of industrials, bloodless robbery at gunpoint is no longer a practical alternative to simply blowing them up and seeing what's inside.
It's important to note that we have never killed anyone who did pay, so such offers can still be trusted when the situation allows us to extend them. But those situations are increasingly rare, and although we will always try to let our victims pay and live when possible, people are going to see increasingly more straight-up PKing from Space Invaders pirates unless CCP does something to make our preferred style more practical again. ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.04 04:05:00 -
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"But there isn't supposed to be a police presence outside empire space. So who's doing the recording?"
... the same mysterious system which records the number of kills and podkills in those areas, as well as the active pilots, jumps made and whatever else? ;s
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.04 04:09:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 04/08/2003 04:09:27
"For example, the prevalence of microwarpdrives and warp core stabilizers on many industrials, as well as ridiculous immunity timers and near-instajump gates, means that it's no longer really possible for me to freeze them, scan their cargo and demand a toll (..)"
Hmm... it sounds like the new patch will be actually a blessing for the traders then, at least as far as SI is concerned? =) I mean, with their unability to launch MWDs in advance you'll be able to get back to the 'old' style?..
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.08.04 04:22:00 -
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Edited by: Molly on 04/08/2003 04:22:59 j0sephine...
Some systems outside empire space give security rating hits because they are bugged. Most do NOT.
I can go to a few systems in Providence and get -2.7 while attacking some players and hunt in other systems in Providence a week long and I will get no security rating hit. Then I can petition the -2.7 and speak to clueless GMs or I just can ignore the whole security rating bull**** and try to make profit again.
So far blowing up Indies in 1.0 has been very proftitable for me :P.
For hunting outside empire space I need a 0.0 security rating and being a blinken lights show alarms everyone. I tried to get it low, CCP gave me additional -2.7, so I don't care about the stuff anylonger and I went for -10.0. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.08.04 04:32:00 -
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Edited by: j0sephine on 04/08/2003 04:35:30 Edited by: j0sephine on 04/08/2003 04:34:11
"Some systems outside empire space give security rating hits because they are bugged. Most do NOT."
Ahh, i see; ok, if it's inconsistent like that then yeah, sounds like a bug. (or the system is using some undocumented rules which boils down to nearly the same thing... o.o )
So far blowing up Indies in 1.0 has been very proftitable for me :P
Can i bring popcorn and watch from the sides? :o exploding Indies are nice :s
"For hunting outside empire space I need a 0.0 security rating and being a blinken lights show alarms everyone."
... Err... i'd think anyone with half a brain out there have adjusted the standings towards the known pirate corps long time ago, so you'd blink on the threat scanner regardless of personal security ratings... i mean, i'm dumb and it was natural precaution to me... so to anyone else... o.O *shrugs*
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Xyber
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Posted - 2003.08.04 06:44:00 -
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You are right that taking sec hits in 0.0 space is bugged in alot of systems, but this is contrary to what you think, it is bgged that you are not taking sec hits, i aproached ccp about this and i got replies from that nothing has changed (really nice that one day i kill kill and kill without a single hit, and the next i have a negative ratign and am getting messages that i have lost it) to that I am to stupid to even notice it changed, i am serious an admin basically told me i am to stupid to notice that nothing has changed and since nothing has changed they did not announce it.
One admin claimed that there are cameras attached to every gun so concord knows everyone you attack, even hough since there are no decernable markings on different ships, this is even a bugged "roleplay" to this issue.
I persued this over several days and eve tech support didn't even apear to read the additions to the petition i made, making no reference to additional questions, allt hey said is that it's always been that way, so well eventually when they fix the bugged systems you will take sec hits in all systems, if there is an interest I can probably copy all my petitions question + answers to my webserver if there is an interest.
And if they do fix my status i'd prolly head into empire space and camp a super highway tll concord gives me the boot. I have adapted and am not working at gettign and keeping -10 sec status and am on the Most WAnted List ;)
--- Sig --- We've all dealt with it. In-game customer support. You would think that by now game companies might start to clue into the fact that a player whose run into a problem is already in a bad mood. So why design a support system around just ****ing them off all the more?
-Luke "Biscosity" Burkett |

drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.08.04 06:59:00 -
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I lost 2.5 sec from hunting down Nemi's bounty alt at the weekend, and that all took place in non-sov space too.
he was also negative security.
This will not encourage people to hunt pirates. .
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.04 07:03:00 -
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I'm in those 4 systems a hell of a lot and I've never even seen any trouble.
Damn.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Lieserl
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Posted - 2003.08.04 07:41:00 -
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Quote: Blowing up Industrial Class ships and CONCORD ships in the 1.0 super highway hub systems like Yulai, Pator, Amarr, New Caldari, which
- do not have sentry guns, - do not have CONCORD attack people with negative security rating who travel there, - have a lot of traffic
I suppose this would be my first troll type post but what the hell. So you only attack ships weaker than yours, how cowardly. If you are going to hang around the superhighway then be prepared to say goodbye to that Blackbird of yours 
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Chai N'Dorr
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Posted - 2003.08.04 07:49:00 -
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Oh boohoo... because something happened that you can't do anything about, you're going to harrass people that had nothing to do with the incident. Just because they can't do anything about it?
How mature... your subscription still not ran out?
Sorry for trolling, but this is just lame...
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Psyco Groupie
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Posted - 2003.08.04 08:51:00 -
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your a pirate, your supposed to have -ve sec rating .. unless your that retard setec
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.08.04 08:55:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 04/08/2003 08:57:01 Lieserl
Quote: I suppose this would be my first troll type post but what the hell. So you only attack ships weaker than yours, how cowardly. If you are going to hang around the superhighway then be prepared to say goodbye to that Blackbird of yours
Regardless of Molly's susceptibility to having a good whine every few days, she IS rather good at destroying people.
Her idea behind attacking Industrial ships is that they're most likely to complain to CCP about it.
Traders are the new carebears. If they whine that Molly is allowed into Empire Space systems to wantonly slay them, CCP will make sure these super highway crossroads will be guarded by sentry guns in future.
Then, they might just take note of her taking a security hint in non-empire space.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Lieserl
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Posted - 2003.08.04 09:02:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 04/08/2003 08:57:01 Lieserl
Quote: I suppose this would be my first troll type post but what the hell. So you only attack ships weaker than yours, how cowardly. If you are going to hang around the superhighway then be prepared to say goodbye to that Blackbird of yours
Regardless of Molly's susceptibility to having a good whine every few days, she IS rather good at destroying people.
Her idea behind attacking Industrial ships is that they're most likely to complain to CCP about it.
Traders are the new carebears. If they whine that Molly is allowed into Empire Space systems to wantonly slay them, CCP will make sure these super highway crossroads will be guarded by sentry guns in future.
Then, they might just take note of her taking a security hint in non-empire space.
And I'm sure she'll be back in a few days whining that a bunch of cruisers pked her in 1.0 space 
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zoop
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Posted - 2003.08.04 09:39:00 -
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he loves the game really...dont you molly
---------------------------- *My God, it's full of gimps*
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Molly
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Posted - 2003.08.04 10:25:00 -
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I don't know who you are Lieserl, but I have destroyed several dozen cruisers and some battleships.
I often hunted alone with my Blackbird and attacked groups of 2-3 cruisers, sometimes destroying them all with no armor damage at all.
Those who fight with me or against me know what I am able do or not so I have nothing to prove to you.
But troll away, it seems you do not understand my posts at all. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2003.08.04 11:03:00 -
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YAWWWWNNNNNN.....
Molly are you still here, havent you left yet...sho sho i say..
So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Sara Kerrigan
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Posted - 2003.08.05 03:52:00 -
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Out of curiosity Molly, how is your campaign going? Today I saw GMs in concord battleships sitting and protecting those gates that dont have sentry. ______________
The Kerrigan Chronicles |

Setec
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Posted - 2003.08.05 04:17:00 -
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Quote: unless your that retard setec
Few things are sweeter than being called a retard by someone who doesn't even know the difference between "you're" and "your."
Quote: I suppose this would be my first troll type post but what the hell. So you only attack ships weaker than yours, how cowardly.
Molly said that she attacks industrials. She did not say that she only attacks industrials, but you claim that this is the case and flame her for it. Why? Because you are a stupid idiot. I know for a fact that Molly often attacks ship classes of equal or greater strength. That makes you a liar and an idiot.
Quote: Her idea behind attacking Industrial ships is that they're most likely to complain to CCP about it.
Her idea behind attacking industrial ships is that they carry more goodies. :) I know the details of her operations and I know that the CONCORD responses make it practical or even necessary to pace one's kills in high sec space and only strike targets of likely high value. It would be a terrible waste of time to sit there killing cruisers which only have about a 20% chance of dropping loot worth not recycling. ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

Nerhtal Al'Thali
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Posted - 2003.08.05 04:52:00 -
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is still going on, i feel like losing a ship or two in a scrap...
"Game Experience And Dev Opinions May Change With The Time Of Day During Online Play" Oveur
"First in, last out" Bridgeburner Motto |

Molly
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Posted - 2003.08.05 04:53:00 -
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"Out of curiosity Molly, how is your campaign going? Today I saw GMs in concord battleships sitting and protecting those gates that dont have sentry."
That's interesting. So far I got 4 Partial Hull Cargo Expander I, 1 CU Vapor from 3 Industrials. One also dropped 250k Isogen which I did not pick up.
So it was nice.
GMs are protecting the gates? ROFL.
They should try to play the game more and they wouldn't be such a bunch of clueless *********. ---
"Molly > funny thing is, if they warn me for attacking in 1.0, why does a GM wish me luck doing so? Jash Illian > perverse sense of humor? Molly > lol Jash Illian > honestly tho, because he prolly doesn't know bships" |

Setec
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Posted - 2003.08.05 05:33:00 -
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I may have to strangle you for not picking up that isogen. :-/ We're always low on that too, damn torpedos... =P ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |

Setec
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Posted - 2003.08.05 05:33:00 -
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I may have to strangle you for not picking up that isogen. :-/ We're always low on that too, damn torpedos... =P ___________________________________________
Space Invaders website: http://www.si-corp.net |
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