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Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.25 09:31:00 -
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I seriously doubt we have souls, and if we did, we left them when our original body was killed.
I think that in the end all we are is scanned memory engrams (and i doubt scanner copied information transmitted across space counts) transferred from one prepared custom cloned meatpuppet to another, and that's all.
Nothing Personal - Just Business...
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BloodBird
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2013.05.25 14:04:00 -
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Elsebeth Rhiannon wrote:Enough said.It is not like this is new to anyone with half a brain, but once again, we are reminded: capsuleers die. I want you to think about that. And if you feel like going "but", think about it some more. You are not immortal. Elsebeth
Age-old news to me. But there are quite a few who are in need of a reminder.
Thank you for providing.
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Xindi Kraid
The Night Wardens
Viro Mors Non Est
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Posted - 2013.05.25 16:11:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:The flesh may not be immortal, but the soul is.
Speaking of which, isn't it the Amarr belief that the soul moves on after your body dies which makes subsequent clones soulless husks or something?
How do you reconcile that as a capsuleer? |
Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:07:00 -
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Xindi Kraid wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:The flesh may not be immortal, but the soul is. Speaking of which, isn't it the Amarr belief that the soul moves on after your body dies which makes subsequent clones soulless husks or something? How do you reconcile that as a capsuleer?
We tend to see the soul as the divine breath of God, not a mindless drone with the line 'If Brain_Functions == 0 then GotoAfterlife();' somewhere in its code.
Once, if your body died, there would be nothing left of you but your soul. That's not the case with Empyreans or even baseliners who soft clone. The soul sticks around you until you shuffle off your mortal coil permanently.
Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's. |
Tamiroth
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.05.25 20:35:00 -
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Makkal Hanaya wrote:Once, if your body died, there would be nothing left of you but your soul. That's not the case with Empyreans or even baseliners who soft clone. The soul sticks around you until you shuffle off your mortal coil permanently. The opinions differ on that matter. |
Felsusguy
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
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Posted - 2013.05.25 22:24:00 -
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Not even mortals truly die. Our unique neurological signature and genetic code are simply lost. If they were ever found again, even a mortal could return from death. Unfortunately, we do not yet have a way to find the neural activity of a dead person, and genetic code breaks down from time and radiation. So I contest that no one truly dies, they simply become lost. Lost in a deep, dark slumber, waiting to be brought back from a sleep they didn't even know about.
How droll. |
BloodBird
Duty.
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Posted - 2013.05.26 15:02:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:And consider this... how much memory can your brain hold?
Roughly 140 years or so worth of second-to-second memories, but only those with "perfect" memories recall every minute detail of everything they have ever consciously experienced. Shave off all the boring and needless stuff and you likely have a capacity for memory stretching to ten times that at the least. Even Capsuleers who are a century old by now will be quite fine for a good while more.
Katran Luftschreck wrote:How much do you remember of the first year of your life? Not much?
I'm confident that no-one except absolute sadists want to actually recall the birth-trauma and the utterly boring monotony of being a less-than-a-year toddler. I'm happy not to recall this, and that one of my earliest memories that I can actively recall stems back to my 3rd year, sitting in my mother's lap, playing. It was apparently enjoyable, and in my own current age, I can enjoy the memory of how my mother looked like at the youngest point I can recall.
Katran Luftschreck wrote:Ask a five hundred year old capsuleer where they were born and they probably won't remember.
I will. I will also recall the high and low points of my pre-Capsuleer life, all the events and days of note in my capsuleer career as well, and likely countless other situations that were of less... interest.
Katran Luftschreck wrote:And then when you put all of this on a cosmic scale... planets and events that make a million years look like a tick of the clock...
Makes any human's life-span rather irrelevant and fickle, yes. But much can still be done in half a millenia or more of active capsuleer service. Heck, a century will do to leave a good solid mark. Many of us just now celebrate a decade. There are nine more of those to go for most of us to reach the levels of the oldest Capsuleers around.
Katran Luftschreck wrote:In the end, we are all very very small creatures that only exist for a brief time. To the Universe, the difference between a hundred years and ten thousand isn't even worth noticing.
No, but for all of us being around for ten thousand years would be quite the achievement. Just because the universe is millions of years if not trillions of years old and not likely to end in heat-death for at least that long, don't mean we can't all aim rather high. After all, we will achieve that goal, or die trying.
All I wish would be for all the people thinking it will be easy, to learn some sense of scale and calm down the self-entitlement a bit. All the "I am a demi-God!" stuff get's very old, very fast, and it is proven often to be an incorrect assessment of one's own position anyhow.
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