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Atum
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Posted - 2005.10.22 01:59:00 -
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Wondering if anybody else has noticed this... Whenever I use the "reprocess" function of a starbase, each time I hit the "OK" button, the heads on my hard drives slam into the park position. I've even gone so far as to turn off my speakers and monitor to make sure I wasn't getting the tail end of a sound file, but there it is. Anybody else noticing this?
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Triscuit
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Posted - 2005.10.22 02:30:00 -
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Uhhh... I don't know about this. Not saying you're wrong, but maybe your hard drive is on the fritz? Might want to back up your stuff just in case.
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Atum
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Posted - 2005.10.22 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: Atum on 22/10/2005 02:41:05
Nope. If the computer just sits there, or I play mp3's, mpg's, avi's, wmv's... type email, watch tv (i have a tuner card  ), or anything else, it never does this. Doesn't do it during the weekly virus scans, either. It's *ONLY* when I click things within EVE, and it's *repeatable*. The refining/melting "OK" button, selecting and deleting eve-mail, and so on, so it's definately something within EVE. At least as far as I can tell, it only affects my system/application drive (Western Digital WD400BB), and not the RAID-5 array (4x Samsung SP1614C).
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Liquid Metal
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Posted - 2005.10.22 02:44:00 -
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It means your hard drive is dying, id backup what you have and get a new one. Mine did that, and eventually started smoking. Amazingly it still worked after, so not all the magic smoke came out \o/
But yeah, you need a new one. 
"A strong man stands tall against all others, everything else is just a delusion for the weak.."
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Atum
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Posted - 2005.10.22 02:55:00 -
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Any way to actually test this? As I said, it's consistent and repeatable only inside EVE. No other application does this.
The downside: I just got done reinstalling Windows on this box last week, and I'd really like to mine this weekend instead of fighting with Windows all over again.
The upside: Gives me an excuse to replace it with one of WD's 10k Raptor drives (assuming I can get the Windows installer to recognize the SATA controller).
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BuzzBuz
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Posted - 2005.10.22 03:14:00 -
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Double click My Computer
Highlight a local hard disk drive by clicking on it once.
Right click the highlighted local drive
Click properties
Click the tools tab and click check now to check the drive for errors.
The computer will need to restart in order to run scandisk in a safe mode.
You will probably find a lot of bad sectors. A possible reason you only get a sound with EVE is because those files happen to be stored in a location that is faulty.
Backup files and prepare to replace the HDD.
If you are not sure what Scandisk does/is then google it for more info.
Good luck
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Posted - 2005.10.22 03:46:00 -
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yup..that gent above me has it nailed quite right...I STRONGLY advise you to backup your Hd to a new one ASAP....or it'll all end in tears....
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Abdalion
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Posted - 2005.10.22 03:55:00 -
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Could be swapping cache too, if your hard drive is fine.
You may need to add more system memory, or make a static swap file.
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Atum
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Posted - 2005.10.22 04:08:00 -
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Well, Scandisk didn't find anything, and it's got 1G of RAM already, so I doubt it's a memory problem. It went nuts as I moused over escrow, though. My older Win98 machine doesn't have this problem, so while I don't have proof, with so many suspecting a dying drive, I'm going to look into replacing it anyways. Drives are cheap enough, though the revenue loss from not mining is going to bite (not that mineral prices are all that great, but hey).
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BuzzBuz
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Posted - 2005.10.22 04:15:00 -
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Edited by: BuzzBuz on 22/10/2005 04:17:06
One last resort:-
Uninstall EVE. Install any small program then reinstall EVE. The files should then be stored in a different place that is, hopefully, ok.
Just a thought off the top of my head .. it might help .. hope so.
I would still look at replacing though.
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Sforza
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Posted - 2005.10.22 04:15:00 -
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Its not an IBM Deskstar is it?
AKA IBM Deathstar..
Linkage
I had one of these, which went bang in a very nasty way.. and it started with the clicks.
Sforza
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John CEO
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Posted - 2005.10.22 04:22:00 -
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Better be safe than sorry..and all indications are that something is happening..scandisc not returning anything is rather strange though.
Check available free space on the system drive, if your'e strapped for space then cache problem might be it as Ab suggested...but then you should notice it with all heavy programs which you seem not to from your message...anyway..good luck.
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TRIGGER
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Posted - 2005.10.22 06:22:00 -
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Edited by: TRIGGER on 22/10/2005 06:22:53
western digital have a specific tool to test their drives called li***uard .
try running that , although sounds to me like your hdd has virtual cache at the end of the platter . running 1gb of system ram will still mean your system uses virtual ram too.
"f.e.g" was censored
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Capsicum
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Posted - 2005.10.22 06:49:00 -
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 Originally by: Sforza
... it started with the clicks.
It always starts with the clicks ... and the voices ...
**must hurt signatures** **must write click in orange**
Ahem,
Yeah I had an IBM deskstar that died like that - in the end I had to use datarecovery software to get all my files back - well 90% of them anyway, it just took like 15 hours to do ...
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infused
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Posted - 2005.10.22 07:29:00 -
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I'm a techie by trade and if your hard drive is "parking" during windows operation then you have problems.
Goto the manafactures website and download the diagnostics tools for that brand of hard drive. Do a full test and goto sleep while it's doing it.
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Bombcrater
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Posted - 2005.10.22 08:38:00 -
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This is similar to a bizzare problem I had last year. I had Eve installed on an 80GB Maxtor DM+9 drive and about 90% of the time when Eve was loading the drive would reset with a horrible keee-clunk sound.
No other games or applications caused problems and the drive passed all diagnostics - in fact, it is still running fine over a year later (holding non-important data, however).
Using the manufacturers utility to switch the drive into 'quiet seeks' mode fixed the resetting glitch, but I never quite trusted it again.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2005.10.22 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sforza
Its not an IBM Deskstar is it?
AKA IBM Deathstar..
Linkage
I had one of these, which went bang in a very nasty way.. and it started with the clicks.
I still have one of deathstars in my linux box :) 5th year of constant use.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.10.22 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: ZelRox
Originally by: Sforza
Its not an IBM Deskstar is it?
AKA IBM Deathstar..
Linkage
I had one of these, which went bang in a very nasty way.. and it started with the clicks.
I still have one of deathstars in my linux box :) 5th year of constant use.
hehe same here, 2 of them running still.
but i also had about 7 of them die on me )
i got them all for free so im not complaining :)
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2005.10.22 10:16:00 -
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Just to reiterate, as a veteran of two hard drive losses, as soon as anything strange starts going on that might be drive related: back up everything you want to keep on your hard drive! First, before trying any diagnostics etc. You might have weeks, you might only have minutes before the drive stops working altogether. Recovering important data from dead drives can start getting expensive.
I use Norton Ghost and create a cloned image of my entire hard drive on an external drive. Works great. If anything goes ****-up with your hard drive you can just buy a new one, copy the image onto it and it's as if nothing ever happened.
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at stars.
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M3ta7h3ad
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Posted - 2005.10.22 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: M3ta7h3ad on 22/10/2005 10:44:54
Might also want to consider turning on the S.M.A.R.T. functionality in the bios.
Run any smart diagnostic utility to get the full story on what is happening on your drive. :)
Edit: if it does go **** up, a freezer + food bag = one hell of an addition to a data recovery kit. I know of many people who have managed to salvage data from unworkable drives using that method.
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Nee'kita
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Posted - 2005.10.22 10:52:00 -
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Well at least you pc speaker doesn't make a noise not so disimilar to "dyinnniiiggg" in rapid repeating clicks...
Which happened to one of my other pcs just before the PSU went BOOM.
From that day on I began listening to my PC speaker intently.
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RedClaws
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Posted - 2005.10.22 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: M3ta7h3ad
a freezer + food bag = one hell of an addition to a data recovery kit. I know of many people who have managed to salvage data from unworkable drives using that method.
Lol whatnow?
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.10.22 11:18:00 -
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If it's a (Death/Desk)Star HDD, then I would seriously look at replacing it.
I've had two of the disks now.
First one died with the dreaded click-of-death, with no warning.
Current one, which I got on a RTM, has now developed a whining noise and the SMART stuff reckons it's dying.
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DarkPhate Endovari
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Posted - 2005.10.22 11:34:00 -
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The guy who mentioned the freezer trick wasn't joking, just make sure its in a well sealed bag and freeze it for a while. I have brought back many a drive from the dead long enough for me to pull data from it.
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ErrorS
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Posted - 2005.10.22 14:36:00 -
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back up drive + surface scan and/or defrag with some prayer.
it's all you can do
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"The grass is always greener on the other side" - Maybe they're not as uber as you think?
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Atum
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:04:00 -
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Ok, enough with the "back up your data and pray"... once or twice is enough. For the record...
Drive: Western Digital Caviar 40G, WD400BB (that means it's not a Deathstar)
Win XP Scandisk turned up nothing wrong.
WD's hard drive diagnostic tool turned up absolutely nothing wrong. SMART has been enabled in my system since I built it, and there's nothing worrisome reported there, either.
Baggie + Freezer: I've heard about that before, but since the drive hasn't died, that's not an issue. For that matter, this drive could go belly-up right now, and my only frustration would be having to go out and buy another drive before I get to play EVE this evening. All my data, documents, spreadsheets, music, pictures, world domination plans (oops, shouldn't have said that), etc are on a RAID-5 array in a different system. So loss of data isn't a concern :)
Bombcrater: Was this seek tool configuration something unique to Maxtor? The WD tools I've found thus far don't have any sort of drive configuration beyond "Windows 98 or Windows XP", which I assume means it's only interested in whether to preformat with FAT32 or NTFS.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.10.22 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Nyphur on 22/10/2005 21:06:47
I'd had a few harddrives die in my time and they all did it by starting out clicking like that. It could last a good long while but it could just completely fall over in a week, who knows.
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Valar
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Posted - 2005.10.23 01:13:00 -
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SpinRite often detects errors before S.M.A.R.T starts complaining.
You can buy it here at Gibson Research, home of ShieldsUp!
(Note that this is my personal recommendation, not CCPs)
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.10.23 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: BuzzBuz
Double click My Computer
Highlight a local hard disk drive by clicking on it once.
Right click the highlighted local drive
Click properties
Click the tools tab and click check now to check the drive for errors.
The computer will need to restart in order to run scandisk in a safe mode.
You will probably find a lot of bad sectors. A possible reason you only get a sound with EVE is because those files happen to be stored in a location that is faulty.
Backup files and prepare to replace the HDD.
If you are not sure what Scandisk does/is then google it for more info.
Good luck
It is a very, very bad idea to run a disk scan if you think your HD is failing without a Backup. VERY BAD.
Also, anyone that suggests the freezer trick is citing a trick that doesn't actually do anything. The problem it does fix is move the head cloaser to the platter if it becomes spaced, but what does that last but a min. Then the drive is warm and now has dew collecting on it. GG.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.10.23 03:08:00 -
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Edited by: Dionysus Davinci on 23/10/2005 03:08:21
Originally by: Valar
SpinRite often detects errors before S.M.A.R.T starts complaining.
You can buy it here at Gibson Research, home of ShieldsUp!
(Note that this is my personal recommendation, not CCPs)
THEY HACKED OUR GIBSON.
To bad Gibson is also overly paranoid doomsayer that said XP was going to destory the Internets.
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