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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
257
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Posted - 2013.05.26 19:46:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Onictus wrote:
You have to be really slow on the draw to lose ratting carrier.
Anything is possible of course, but you shouldn't have a carrier alone in a system anyway.
Uhh... I'm always most comfortable with my carrier when I'm alone in system.  -Liang
By alone I mean me myself and I
. An alt or three
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Guados
Everyone vs Everything
90
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Posted - 2013.05.27 03:42:00 -
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Carriers in anomaly?!? Where ?!? 
2nd in NEW EDEN OPEN TOURNAMENT
My PvP Channel :-áhttp://www.youtube.com/user/Guadossss |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Heretic Initiative
3711
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Posted - 2013.05.27 03:44:00 -
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Onictus wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Onictus wrote:
You have to be really slow on the draw to lose ratting carrier.
Anything is possible of course, but you shouldn't have a carrier alone in a system anyway.
Uhh... I'm always most comfortable with my carrier when I'm alone in system. -Liang By alone I mean me myself and I . An alt or three
On that note, Level 5s with Marauder backup is pretty pimp ****.
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
258
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Posted - 2013.05.27 15:07:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:Onictus wrote:Liang Nuren wrote:Onictus wrote:
You have to be really slow on the draw to lose ratting carrier.
Anything is possible of course, but you shouldn't have a carrier alone in a system anyway.
Uhh... I'm always most comfortable with my carrier when I'm alone in system. -Liang By alone I mean me myself and I . An alt or three On that note, Level 5s with Marauder backup is pretty pimp ****. -Liang
You are likely right, I never trained them up though. |
nahjustwarpin
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2013.05.27 17:35:00 -
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Guados wrote:Carriers in anomaly?!? Where ?!?
all over the null maaaan :D
but seriously i prefer assigning fighters to to ratting nagas, safer and is not a gank magnet so i won't have a neut in system sitting and camping it |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
83
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Posted - 2013.05.27 23:52:00 -
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So a 30 day alt can still earn 500mil/h in a caracal and you want to rat in a carrier? |
Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
258
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Posted - 2013.05.28 01:23:00 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:So a 30 day alt can still earn 500mil/h in a caracal and you want to rat in a carrier?
Doing what pray tell? |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Heretic Initiative
3712
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Posted - 2013.05.28 04:16:00 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:So a 30 day alt can still earn 500mil/h in a caracal and you want to rat in a carrier?
I'd say 500M/hr is pushing it really. I'd say sustained it's on the order of 200-300, with bursts up to 350. But yeah, that's kinda my go-to when I need an ISK pick-me-up. I was looking at my funds and I'm invested 20+ billion in Odyssey and the next expansion. No wonder I was starting to feel space poor again. 
-Liang
Ed: Still, I tend to take the 100M/hr route and just AFK it.
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1657
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Posted - 2013.05.28 06:24:00 -
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I was doing 150 an hour in my Vindicator. It was miserable though I had to pay attention and that doesn't fit my Eve playstyle. |
Melina Quaid
Perkone
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.05.28 16:50:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:W0lf Crendraven wrote:So a 30 day alt can still earn 500mil/h in a caracal and you want to rat in a carrier? I'd say 500M/hr is pushing it really. I'd say sustained it's on the order of 200-300, with bursts up to 350. But yeah, that's kinda my go-to when I need an ISK pick-me-up. I was looking at my funds and I'm invested 20+ billion in Odyssey and the next expansion. No wonder I was starting to feel space poor again. -Liang Ed: Still, I tend to take the 100M/hr route and just AFK it.
200-300m/hour ? How's that possible ?
Unles you're using a Mothership ? oO |
Ciyrine
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.05.28 21:06:00 -
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How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr? |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Heretic Initiative
3713
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:02:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr?
I hate to say it but: that would be telling. 
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
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Markus Navarro
Osmon Integrated Robotics
35
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Posted - 2013.05.28 23:38:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr?
My guess would be space prostitution
Or trading,pretty much the same
I sell drones and drones accessories. |
Ziester
No Fixed Abode
Mildly Intoxicated
3
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:04:00 -
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Markus Navarro wrote:Ciyrine wrote:How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr? My guess would be space prostitution Or trading,pretty much the same
I've tried trading, and it's incredibly boring.
It's essentially 1v200 in PvP except you're fighting with +/- 0.01 isk increments  |
Paikis
Vapour Holdings
826
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:13:00 -
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Ziester wrote:Markus Navarro wrote:Ciyrine wrote:How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr? My guess would be space prostitution Or trading,pretty much the same I've tried trading, and it's incredibly boring. It's essentially 1v200 in PvP except you're fighting with +/- 0.01 isk increments
And if you know what you're doing, 500mil/h is easily doable. |
Ziester
No Fixed Abode
Mildly Intoxicated
3
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Posted - 2013.05.29 11:15:00 -
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Paikis wrote:Ziester wrote:Markus Navarro wrote:Ciyrine wrote:How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr? My guess would be space prostitution Or trading,pretty much the same I've tried trading, and it's incredibly boring. It's essentially 1v200 in PvP except you're fighting with +/- 0.01 isk increments And if you know what you're doing, 500mil/h is easily doable.
Well I guess it's suitable to certain players.
I'm more of a "Shoot first, ask questions after" kind of player :P |
BrutalButFair
Happy Endings.
Raiden.
72
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:16:00 -
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you can easily make between 200-300 mill an hour doing level 5's with 2 tengu's. Well at least i can |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1329
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:20:00 -
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Ciyrine wrote:How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr?
1. Sov space
2. Bot software
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
1329
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Posted - 2013.05.29 15:21:00 -
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Ziester wrote:Markus Navarro wrote:Ciyrine wrote:How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr? My guess would be space prostitution Or trading,pretty much the same I've tried trading, and it's incredibly boring. It's essentially 1v200 in PvP except you're fighting with +/- 0.01 isk increments
It can make some decent isk. But yeah, it's boring as hell.
"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Heretic Initiative
3715
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:35:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Ciyrine wrote:How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr? 1. Sov space 2. Bot software
No.
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
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Onictus
Silver Snake Enterprise
Fatal Ascension
258
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Posted - 2013.05.29 16:48:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Ziester wrote:Markus Navarro wrote:Ciyrine wrote:How do 30 day alts make 2-350mil/hr? My guess would be space prostitution Or trading,pretty much the same I've tried trading, and it's incredibly boring. It's essentially 1v200 in PvP except you're fighting with +/- 0.01 isk increments It can make some decent isk. But yeah, it's boring as hell.
I hate market bingo
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Alexander McKeon
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
Kill It With Fire
8
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Posted - 2013.05.29 17:48:00 -
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bah, what is this silliness of killing little red crosses with carriers? If you want to earn the best possible ISK / hour, get yourself a dreadnought, some buddies for support, and go invade WH space for your ratting needs. A Moros, four guardians and a pair of Lokis with webs will destroy the isk / hour of Nullsec ratting, you just need a scan buddy to find a hole to rat in. |
Uzbeg Khan
Phantom Squad
Insidious Empire
11
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:28:00 -
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Alexander McKeon wrote:bah, what is this silliness of killing little red crosses with carriers? If you want to earn the best possible ISK / hour, get yourself a dreadnought, some buddies for support, and go invade WH space for your ratting needs. A Moros, four guardians and a pair of Lokis with webs will destroy the isk / hour of Nullsec ratting, you just need a scan buddy to find a hole to rat in.
Yeah, all you have to do to make better isk is get 10 people organized whenever it suits you, and hope for the right WH to spawn...
(WH rats are red crosses too)
Things I hate:
- Signatures
- Irony
- Lists |
mama guru
Thundercats
The Initiative.
124
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Posted - 2013.05.30 12:05:00 -
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It's not that hard to do trading, the problem is that it takes time and patience to deal with all the bots and the 0.01 isk wars. Finding good enough margins is the easy part.
Ofcourse you can find markets outside jita but that usually requires a freighter.
______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |
Airto TLA
Puppeteers of Doom
44
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:07:00 -
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mama guru wrote:It's not that hard to do trading, the problem is that it takes time and patience to deal with all the bots and the 0.01 isk wars. Finding good enough margins is the easy part.
Ofcourse you can find markets outside jita but that usually requires a freighter.
One other small note about trading is a net loss transaction, this means that trading does not add isk or items to the overall economy it only removes it by taxes and fees. So any money you make make requires someone else to lose more. It works well in an experts hand because, so many people buy or sell small amounts of items and it is not effecient for them to spend a half hour to make or save 5,000 isk more. The trader bundles those 5,000s into thousands of items per day and makes it work.
The overall profit of traders is highly dependant there being far more people in small sell/buy catagory then traders. If to many traders enter the market then profits per person drop even thoug hthe best still make good money, but the worst will actually lose money. This is different than missions/ratting or mining/manufacturing, where isk or items are actually added to the economy. The amount of people in these lines of money making is far larger than trading, since a) the sources are constantly respawning and b) these are the people who lose all the 5k isk per buy/sell, so they need to outnumber the traders by a large margin.
Tl/dr The average trading profit per person drops directly related to the number of traders in the market. |
Britta Nolen
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:23:00 -
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30 alts making 200m isk/h. The only thing that comes in mind is FW mission grinding.
As far as isk making, like milton said, wormholes. 5% of the player base makes 20% of the isk in game. |
Dirk Gentry
Aqua DE Vida
0
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Posted - 2013.06.01 07:55:00 -
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Its possible.. |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
84
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Posted - 2013.06.01 11:36:00 -
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Blitz Fw missions. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
163
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Posted - 2013.06.01 12:27:00 -
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Ziester wrote:
Empire's actually gonna become the most dangerous place in New Eden (But it's kind of intended anyway, as an incentive to drive people away from Empire into Low/Null sec)
It's not intended at all. That's just the way it turns out as there's no vaguely reasonably way to enforce security without gimping a whole lot of game features. Fact is, with null you have to continually watch local/intel channels, whereas in empire, broadly speaking (except at big trade hubs and their nearby systems), you really don't.
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W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
84
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Posted - 2013.06.02 13:47:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Ziester wrote:
Empire's actually gonna become the most dangerous place in New Eden (But it's kind of intended anyway, as an incentive to drive people away from Empire into Low/Null sec)
It's not intended at all. That's just the way it turns out as there's no vaguely reasonably way to enforce security without gimping a whole lot of game features. Fact is, with null you have to continually watch local/intel channels, whereas in empire, broadly speaking (except at big trade hubs and their nearby systems), you really don't.
Lowsec is empire btw. |
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