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Tsukino Stareine
EVE University
Ivy League
241
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Posted - 2013.05.28 15:45:00 -
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deimos is becoming obsolete due to it's very limited advantages over it's t1 counterpart and I feel there's not much use for a muninn either with the nado and rupture covering both aspects it's supposed to be good at.
Vaga has it's little niche along with the cynabal so it's still ok and I fully agree the caldari hacs need something, anything.
Not entirely sure with the sacrilege. |
Number 17
COLD-Wing
1
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Posted - 2013.05.29 13:36:00 -
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I think the vagabond needs another mwd speed bonus, and a scan resolution bonus, to be a complete ship.
Then it would be really good at it's role, which is shooting t1 frigs and running away when anything bigger lands on grid.
Just my 0.02 isk. |
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
67
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Posted - 2013.05.29 14:25:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:I see your ****** vaga and i raise you a ****** cerb
The cerb and eagle are both fine as they represent the Caldari design philosophy of being completely terrible.
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Skurja Volpar
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
54
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Posted - 2013.05.30 07:59:00 -
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All the sniper HACs feel pretty obsolete these days alongside tier3 BCs.
New, more unique roles would be cool, the best HACs take a key aspect of a races playstyle, and specialize around it (vaga/ishtar), while the worst have general roles that they are almost completely outshined at, by cheaper ships in (Muninn/Deimos).
And there's always the competition with the faction cruisers, which doesn't have to be an issue, as long as there's some equal tradeoff between the two rather than one being plain better for a similar price.
But for the most part, tiercide has been handled really well imo, looking forward to seeing the T2 changes, hoping for something more imaginative than drone damage Sac, and HAM Muninn, but I can't think of many other options. |
Kalihira
Interstellar Newcomers Inc.
Home Front Coalition
11
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Posted - 2013.05.30 08:00:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:deimos is becoming obsolete due to it's very limited advantages over it's t1 counterpart and I feel there's not much use for a muninn either with the nado and rupture covering both aspects it's supposed to be good at.
Vaga has it's little niche along with the cynabal so it's still ok and I fully agree the caldari hacs need something, anything.
Not entirely sure with the sacrilege.
Deimos is ok-ish. It does its intended job well enough (see my ealier post). Falloff bonus should become tracking though, and thorax-speed would be nice too, along with that 4th mid (remove the utility high?)
arty cane is essentially what a muninn should be, those two ships are overlapping way too much. Optimal bonus is a nice one though. Muninn needs more PG to actually fit a decent (armor) tank along with arties.
the Cyna needs a speednerf, period. Vaga should be the insane fast one, cyna the nimble one. Vaga also needs more PG, its silly you cant fit a standard shield/ac fit properly due to PG problems, while it has craploads of CPU to spare.
Sac is pretty good, could use more speed/less weight. maybe remove the drones and add an xtra launcher (not sure why heavy assault cruisers have utility highs anyway, if you want EWAR, get recons in your fleet). Its dps is rather limited currently, especially when you're bolstering its strong point: tank. moving that high to a low might be interesting too.
while im at it, here are my 2 isk on the other HACs:
Ishtar: brobably the best HAC currently, by far the most versatile one. its just a PITA to fit properly. give it some more CPU/PG
zealot: its silly that the omen does the same dps at higher speeds then the zealot. In fact, the only things is has over the omen is EHP and range. Give it a drone bay or an xtra highslot / turret hardpoint (I like the idea of a full laz0r gunboat tbh). The lack of a drone bay warrants a 16th slot. some more cap/cap regen would be nice too, to offset the draw of lasers.
The cerb is repairable. removing the flight time bonus and add a resist or shield HP bonus would go a long way. Remove the useless utility high to a mid should work wonders too. Make it faster and give it ALOT more PG. to fit it all. Increase its kinetic dmg bonus from 5 to 10% could work, or to give it a tad more flexebility, an xtra launcher, pretty much in line with the zealot.
Eagle just needs to be reworked from the ground up...
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Halete
Pyre Falcon Defence Cadre XV-01A
Pyre Falcon Defence Combine
848
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Posted - 2013.05.30 10:27:00 -
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Where all the Interceptors discussion at?
"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin"
- The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21 |
DeadDuck
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
40
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Posted - 2013.05.30 11:19:00 -
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nvm |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P
C C P Alliance
6195
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:13:00 -
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"Tiericide" is indeed close to completion, because that term specifically refers to cleaning up the legacy of ship tiers. As of Odyssey's release on Tuesday the industrials will be the last tiered ship in the game.
However as most of you know rebalancing is never done and we'll be tweaking every ship in the game and then coming back and tweaking them again. I shouldn't announce what's coming next quite yet, but keep an eye on the Features and Ideas forum for new stickies once we clear out the Odyssey ones after release.
Game Designer | Team Five-0
https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie |
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Riot Girl
Thundercats
The Initiative.
970
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:17:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:I shouldn't announce what's coming next quite yet.
Why not 
Oh god. |
LakeEnd
FinFleet
Raiden.
45
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:18:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:"Tiericide" is indeed close to completion, because that term specifically refers to cleaning up the legacy of ship tiers. As of Odyssey's release on Tuesday the industrials will be the last tiered ship in the game.
However as most of you know rebalancing is never done and we'll be tweaking every ship in the game and then coming back and tweaking them again. I shouldn't announce what's coming next quite yet, but keep an eye on the Features and Ideas forum for new stickies once we clear out the Odyssey ones after release.
Can-¦t wait to see what you guys do with Pirate ships, especially cruisers. Also T2 ships are sure going to be interesting. Anyway good job, you keep us EFT-warriors busy. |
Perihelion Olenard
171
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:22:00 -
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Riot Girl wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:I shouldn't announce what's coming next quite yet. Why not
If people are rage quitting over the Tracking Enhancer's range bonus getting reduced by 1/3 and ship resistance bonuses getting reduced by 1/5, can you imagine how many will rage quit if something else is announced?
I wear my sunglasses at night. |
Dave Stark
3039
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Posted - 2013.05.31 11:52:00 -
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Perihelion Olenard wrote:Riot Girl wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:I shouldn't announce what's coming next quite yet. Why not If people are rage quitting over the Tracking Enhancer's range bonus getting reduced by 1/3 and ship resistance bonuses getting reduced by 1/5, can you imagine how many will rage quit if something else is announced?
if they're rage quitting over that, then i can't help but be amused. |
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CCP Ytterbium
C C P
C C P Alliance
1955
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Posted - 2013.05.31 12:14:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:"Tiericide" is indeed close to completion, because that term specifically refers to cleaning up the legacy of ship tiers. As of Odyssey's release on Tuesday the industrials will be the last tiered ship in the game.
However as most of you know rebalancing is never done and we'll be tweaking every ship in the game and then coming back and tweaking them again. I shouldn't announce what's coming next quite yet, but keep an eye on the Features and Ideas forum for new stickies once we clear out the Odyssey ones after release.
Who allowed you to post here? Back to the balancing pits! We need more Vespene Gas! |
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Jonas Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
211
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:07:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:"Tiericide" is indeed close to completion, because that term specifically refers to cleaning up the legacy of ship tiers. As of Odyssey's release on Tuesday the industrials will be the last tiered ship in the game.
However as most of you know rebalancing is never done and we'll be tweaking every ship in the game and then coming back and tweaking them again. I shouldn't announce what's coming next quite yet, but keep an eye on the Features and Ideas forum for new stickies once we clear out the Odyssey ones after release. Who allowed you to post here? Back to the balancing pits! We need more Vespene Gas!
LOL back to work you little balancing monkey :P
HACS .... need T3's to be nerfed and ABC's to be nerfed and the pirate cruisers like cynabal to be changed.
mwd bonus 75% ish so 300 sig radius or so... and aimed at being T2 attack cruisers so fighting at 30 -40km but with much more dps than the T1 versions. and there price needs to drop to compete with ABC's... or make ABC's like they should have been when released as a heavier T2 HAC.
'Tech3 ships need to be put down, like a rabid dog drooling everywhere in the house, they are out of line' CCP Ytterbium
Nerf missile range into place where is the TD missile change?-á ..projectiles should use capacitor.
ABC's should be T2 HABC and nerf web strength its still too high |
Kor'el Izia
56
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:23:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:"Tiericide" is indeed close to completion, because that term specifically refers to cleaning up the legacy of ship tiers. As of Odyssey's release on Tuesday the industrials will be the last tiered ship in the game.
However as most of you know rebalancing is never done and we'll be tweaking every ship in the game and then coming back and tweaking them again. I shouldn't announce what's coming next quite yet, but keep an eye on the Features and Ideas forum for new stickies once we clear out the Odyssey ones after release. Who allowed you to post here? Back to the balancing pits! We need more Vespene Gas!
Oh noes, the Queen! |
Jonas Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
211
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:48:00 -
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Fozzie
aren't the pirate ships still tiered??.... certainly some of them has less slots than others like the NM and phantasm.
'Tech3 ships need to be put down, like a rabid dog drooling everywhere in the house, they are out of line' CCP Ytterbium
Nerf missile range into place where is the TD missile change?-á ..projectiles should use capacitor.
ABC's should be T2 HABC and nerf web strength its still too high |
marVLs
167
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Posted - 2013.05.31 13:55:00 -
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I'm waiting for marauders  hoping they will relaing pve kings status, and maybe some exploration bonus  |
Jonas Sukarala
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
211
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Posted - 2013.05.31 14:06:00 -
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marVLs wrote:I'm waiting for marauders hoping they will relaing pve kings status, and maybe some exploration bonus
Nah battleship HACS is what we want :)
'Tech3 ships need to be put down, like a rabid dog drooling everywhere in the house, they are out of line' CCP Ytterbium
Nerf missile range into place where is the TD missile change?-á ..projectiles should use capacitor.
ABC's should be T2 HABC and nerf web strength its still too high |
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