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Drake Doe
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.07.31 02:08:00 -
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RavenPaine wrote:Drake Doe wrote:Citadel missiles, cpu issues, and the lack of capital shield buffer mods. I think that sums it up. So basicly, Tank, Gank, and Fitting all suck for the Phoenix. lol. I didn't go to such lengths to analyze the ship statistics. For me the hull was just plain Fugly. I can't be paying subs to fly ugly ships! Application and passive tank to be exact, since shield dreads can't increase their buffer without losing all of their dps. And don't forget that nanofiber nidhoggurs speed tank citadel missiles. "The homogenization of EVE began when Gallente and Caldari started sharing a weapon system."---Vermaak Doe-- "Ohh squabbles ohh I love my dust trolls like watching an episode of Maury with less " Is he my Dad " but more of " My Neighbor took a dump on my lawn " good episode! *pops more corn*" ---Evernub-- |
xPredat0rz
Grey Templars Fidelas Constans
71
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Posted - 2013.08.01 08:51:00 -
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Ideally for the phoenix:
10% Boost in DPS(Should Offset the need for TPs and **** on capital size Targets) 50% Boost in Missile velocity
Make it a 10% damage bonus for kinetic 5% for the rest.
Now yes this would make it on paper completely blow away the moros. In reality it might be on equal grounds against other caps. A bit better at pos bashing and still utter **** against subcaps.
That would at least make it somewhat usable.
Chimera
Basically just increasing the CPU by 150 should do it.
Shield reps are they way they are because of where they land in the cycles. Even with that said they should be able to fit a 3 shield transfer 2x energy transfer like the archon. |
W1ndex
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2013.08.02 15:16:00 -
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Moros Pilot checking in:
I do not know why the phoenix doesn't get a dual weapon system bonus. Bonus Capital Hybirds and Capital missiles. Since the biggest issue is the capital missiles. Perhaps offer selectable damage to the missile and add hybird bonuses as well. This would make the phoenix desirable. I would cross train right now actually.
And the Chimera like many have said before me needs to be able to fit out a full shield tank and shield transporters etc. It is lacking on fitting room just like the nid.
Phoenix: Bonus to Cap Hybirds and bonus all dmg type cap missiles
Chimera: Fitting room to actually setup something that makes sense. |
Ned Plantagenet
Dirty Old Bastards Nulli Secunda
23
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Posted - 2013.08.05 13:01:00 -
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Chimera
I agree with aextra mid slot just so I can have a dcu without losing DPS. As of its CPU is be happy with a 3% bonus per level or 150. But if not guess that means risk a rig slot/ low slot/ or get a implant. for a CPU upgrade. But a t2 CPU upgrade would be a little over kill. So guess but a CPU implant in and there you go fitting solution solved.
As of the Phoenix idk what I can say since Idont fly a dread. |
Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
612
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Posted - 2013.08.06 03:26:00 -
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W1ndex wrote:Moros Pilot checking in:
I do not know why the phoenix doesn't get a dual weapon system bonus. Bonus Capital Hybirds and Capital missiles. Since the biggest issue is the capital missiles. Perhaps offer selectable damage to the missile and add hybird bonuses as well. This would make the phoenix desirable. I would cross train right now actually.
And the Chimera like many have said before me needs to be able to fit out a full shield tank and shield transporters etc. It is lacking on fitting room just like the nid.
Phoenix: Bonus to Cap Hybirds and bonus all dmg type cap missiles
Chimera: Fitting room to actually setup something that makes sense.
So they just scrapped the 2 weapon system dread and now they should make another one? Didn't they change the Nalf because it was a POS idea to have dual weapon system bonus?
Fix the missile system. You can't have a weapon system reliant on a form of EWAR if many of it's target will be immune to it. Either change the explosion velocity/radius to more manageable level OR make it so the required EWAR can actually be applied on the target. |
Jack Miton
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
2224
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Posted - 2013.08.06 04:55:00 -
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Ned Plantagenet wrote:Chimera I agree with aextra mid slot just so I can have a dcu without losing DPS. As of its CPU is be happy with a 3% bonus per level or 150. But if not guess that means risk a rig slot/ low slot/ or get a implant. for a CPU upgrade. But a t2 CPU upgrade would be a little over kill. So guess but a CPU implant in and there you go fitting solution solved. you absolutely cannot give the chimera an extra midslot... would make it LOL OP.
CPU wise it needs 100 more CPU at L5 skills. (lets you fit a 4 slot T2 tank, meta 0 caotal mods, 3 shield transfers, 1 cap transfer.) |
Ned Plantagenet
Dirty Old Bastards Nulli Secunda
24
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Posted - 2013.08.06 10:27:00 -
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Lol I meant low slot. |
Galen Draz
Legion of Fallen Soldiers
3
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Posted - 2013.08.07 21:20:00 -
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remove all penalties from the citadel torps when sieged and make their explosion radius 20km so that those torps will do full damage to everyone inside 20km from the impact point. Phoenix has been **** so long... it needs to be stupidly overpowered now!!! |
Chris Winter
Zephyr Corp V.A.S.T.
184
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Posted - 2013.08.07 21:26:00 -
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Galen Draz wrote:remove all penalties from the citadel torps when sieged and make their explosion radius 20km so that those torps will do full damage to everyone inside 20km from the impact point. Phoenix has been **** so long... it needs to be stupidly overpowered now!!! That's not how explosion radius works. |
Cpt Tirel
Tyrfing Industries Viro Mors Non Est
39
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Posted - 2013.08.07 21:34:00 -
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What they need is AOE damage, like 20% of the damage is applied to anything 10km around where the torpedoes hit. |
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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
631
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Posted - 2013.08.09 16:01:00 -
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Cpt Tirel wrote:What they need is AOE damage, like 20% of the damage is applied to anything 10km around where the torpedoes hit.
20% of a 200k alpha = 40k
40k x 10 dreads = 400k AoE
400k AoE to 10km = oops your support fleet is gone. |
Arik Alabel
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2013.08.16 17:24:00 -
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I just want to chime in and bump this thread. Someday, something will happen to "fix" the phoenix, right? |
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