New Caldari GÇô Caldari Navy Executive Officer Mininela Erinen testified before the Chief Executive Panel that State Executor Tibus Heth forced Admiral Visera Yanala to partake in the Tea Maker's ceremony after she was podded during the Battle for Caldari Prime. The story of a clone malfunction was a cover-up mandated by Heth and enforced on the cloning facility by the Provists.

Standing before the CEP tribunal and monitored by cutting-edge lie detecting equipment, Erinen revealed that GÇ£When it became obvious that the Shiigeru was going to be destroyed and the Oblivion was not going to be fired, Executor Heth ordered I attend him. Under Provist escort, we entered her post-rebirth chamber. Executor Heth interrogated Admiral Yanala, then offered her a cup of hak'len tea. Admiral Yanala drank the tea and died shortly after from respiratory failure.GÇ¥

Further interrogation revealed additional details of encounter, including Yanala admitting to disobeying orders to fire on Caldari Prime and defiantly drinking the tea as punishment for ever following Heth in the first place. Erinen revealed she was intimidated by the Provists and unable to countermand the order.

Erinen went on to say that the story of the clone malfunction was only concocted recently, once details of Yanala's actions were released and the Caldari citizens reacted positively. According to the admiral, GÇ£Heth became worried the workers would riot if they learned what he did. He sent his Provists to shake down the workers at the clone facility and ordered anyone else involved to keep silent on threat of treason.GÇ¥

After roughly an hour of testimony from Erinen, the CEP recessed to discuss the findings.

I sincerely hope that the Caldari people are able to get their house in order soon, because something is clearly rotten.

Shocking.

A barbarically uncivilized custom if there ever was one that, that poison tea thing.

It's no way for the strong to treat the weak. Noblesse oblige.

It's a shame we couldn't influence the Caldari enough to abandon such outdated practices.

Coffee only for me, thanks.

The Caldari are being oppressed by their own tyrannical government. It is time for them to rise and take a stand. It is time for them to but their future in their own hands. It is time for a new age where Caldari children can live with hope.

It is time for Heth to die.

Citizens of the State! Behold! Your leader!

Allow me to regress back to my five year old self for a brief moment.

*Ahem* I told you so! I told you so! Na-na-na poopoo!

It is time, Captain, for us Gallente to shut up, step back and let the Caldari sort this situation out themselves and in peace.

It is time, Captain, for us Gallente to shut up, step back and let the Caldari sort this situation out themselves and in peace.

It is time, Captain, for us Gallente to shut up, step back and let the Caldari sort this situation out themselves and in peace.

You should probably take time to learn more about others before telling them what to do.

Diana Kim would say about it if she could say anything about it at all.

For new plants to take roots, old ones must be taken down.

Although this means destruction must come and visit us once in a blue moon, often without our acceptance. Th is the price we must pay to grow. Although dark times are surely ahead, one must still be positive and see the light at the end of the tunnel. It is a road for which often we all have to travel.

For after every ending, there is always a new beginning.

I wish the state and it's people the best through this tough times.

And for many others , please keep your " I told you so's" to yourselves. This is not the time nor the place.

Remember, no matter how much you think you know or rightfully righteous you feel , the destiny of the State only lay at the hand of its citizens. It is with their own sweat off their back and the blood for which they spill for her, that she is able to stand here today.

At their time of needs be respectful, lend an hear if spoken to, give advice if sought upon, other then that keep your mouth shut!

Forcefully speak and no one listen.
Gloat and surely you will gain a more determined enemy in the future.
( A wiser and more deadlier one, I say)

If you must gloat, then do so in private or amongts your peers!

I know enough about you to know that you claim descent from Garoun aristocracy, just like me. So act like it, Captain.

I'd rather not. It's not very Gallente to feel the need to act or be treated differently just because of ancestry.

And here I thought you just suggested I should treat you differently based on your Deteis ancestry.

For my own part I am perfectly happy - even relieved - to consider any ties you have to Garoun aristocracy void and forfeit. I am, however, also sure that the Caldari - the real Caldari - are not going to consider a Federal citizen and radio talkshow agitator one of their own. Let me rephrase that, more simply: You are not Caldari in any meaningful sense of the word.

I don't know what you are hoping to achieve with your rabble-rousing efforts, but it seems that even in a best-case scenario, you'll simply embarrass yourself, and the rest of us by association.

Well, I was going to give him what-for, but it appears that I don't need to. Freddie-boy couldn't hope to be Caldari if he wanted to be, but if you ever want to expatriate to the State, let me know.

I believe I have passed the point of anger and simply resolved to do whatever I can whenever I can to make sure Heth dies.

...or what Diana Kim would say about it if she could say anything about it at all.

And here I thought you just suggested I should treat you differently based on your Deteis ancestry.

For my own part I am perfectly happy - even relieved - to consider any ties you have to Garoun aristocracy void and forfeit. I am, however, also sure that the Caldari - the real Caldari - are not going to consider a Federal citizen and radio talkshow agitator one of their own. Let me rephrase that, more simply: You are not Caldari in any meaningful sense of the word.

I don't know what you are hoping to achieve with your rabble-rousing efforts, but it seems that even in a best-case scenario, you'll simply embarrass yourself, and the rest of us by association.

So far at least she has taken the dignity of silence and contemplation.

Perhaps you should follow suit.

I did not suggest that you treat me differently due to my Deteis blood. Rather, I was merely explaining to you that I am not just some random Gallente shouting over something that doesn't concern me because quite frankly, it does.

You say so much but know so little. Dictating who I am and what I should based entirely off of a few posts. You are correct, I'm not a true Caldari. Never have, never will be, never want to. However, I have many friends and family that are and always will be. All of them harmed in varying ways under Heth's regime. I even took a few punches from that horrible man on one occasion. Yet I've lent a helping hand to my Caldari brothers and sisters on multiple occasions and they have returned that aid in ways I cannot possibly reciprocate properly. I have always been an advocate for Gallente- Caldari peace and cooperation.

Do you really think the man with the tacky red suit, blue hair, and awkward facial tattoo is concerned with embarrassing himself? If I cared about embarrassing myself I would be a very different and rather unsuccessful man.

I believe I have passed the point of anger and simply resolved to do whatever I can whenever I can to make sure Heth dies.

There is no dignity in purposeless silence. Her silence may have a purpose, or it may not, but I see no reason to believe that my silence has a purpose. Some may argue, but they argue in vain, for they know not of true wisdom, as none of us do.

But alas, such philosophical thoughts aren't important. I, and my culture, care not for this kind of dignity.

Perhaps you could say I don't need to "make up" for what I have done. Unlike Diana Kim, I have not chosen the greater of two evils. Indeed, I have not chosen the lesser, either. I am an independent capsuleer. Something of a privateer. I care not for Jacus Roden or Mentas Blaque. Though I align myself with the Federation for everyday events, I refuse to defend the men holding the cards. They don't need my verbal protection, nor do they deserve it, nor would it help.

You see, unlike Diana Kim, I have enough dignity to live without needing the fabricated tenets of honor and pride.

Enough of this "a billion ISK for his rotting corpse" paask. It's undignified, uncivilized, and selfish. There are tens of thousands of mourning families out there who have lost loved ones to Heth's crazed crusade against the Federation and every single one of them deserve to see justice done far more than do any of us capsuleers, who are merely angry at him. Work that anger off. I had to rip two sparring drones apart, meditate and have a contemplative conversation on Achuran philosophy before I started to feel calm again but here I am, and apparently I'm the only man among us who thought to try and be Caldari about this.

Calm down, get a hold of yourselves, and surrender your rage to the greater needs of the State. The State doesn't need a pack of choleric immortals on the warpath, it needs Cold Wind.

And Andreus? I would take it as a personal favour if you would stop gloating.

I remember Anvent Eturrer, and I remember the criticism we leveled at the Federation for the way he was executed without due process, and in a breathtakingly inhumane way.

Are we going to go down that road? Have we forgotten who we are? We're civilised human beings kirjuuni. We're not impatient psychotics champing at the bit; We're Caldari, and we have due process for these situations. Cutting corners, brutalizing the assumed guilty, allowing our passions to drive us? That's not our way, for all that the Provists have made it our way for the last five years.

If we're going to ever get that venom out of our system then we need to start with an effort of will. We need to do this RIGHT.

Are we accusing Heth of a crime? Then we arrest him and try him. If it's a capital crime, we offer him the Hak'Len Tea prior to his trial, and maybe he'll spare us all the indignity of the trial. If he does not, we will abide by and respect the ruling of the court, whatever that may be. And if we decide upon execution, then it will be done swiftly, humanely, and with discretion.

As much as I despise the man I won't see vigilante justice done in the State by a capsuleer who's letting their heart rule their head. If need be I will defend Tibus Heth's life until he stands trial, not because I want him to live, but because I want him not to be a martyr to Empyrean anger.

Enough of this "a billion ISK for his rotting corpse" paask. It's undignified, uncivilized, and selfish. There are tens of thousands of mourning families out there who have lost loved ones to Heth's crazed crusade against the Federation and every single one of them deserve to see justice done far more than do any of us capsuleers, who are merely angry at him. Work that anger off. I had to rip two sparring drones apart, meditate and have a contemplative conversation on Achuran philosophy before I started to feel calm again but here I am, and apparently I'm the only man among us who thought to try and be Caldari about this.

Calm down, get a hold of yourselves, and surrender your rage to the greater needs of the State. The State doesn't need a pack of choleric immortals on the warpath, it needs Cold Wind.

And Andreus? I would take it as a personal favour if you would stop gloating.

For someone preaching self-control and moderation you're surprisingly one-sided about condemning the earlier deeds of the Executor...

By all means, I agree whole-heartedly with your views regarding handling Heth-haan's deeds with due process. But if we're talking about doing it the Caldari way I suggest cutting the BS.

As much as I would like to see Heth disappear, Stitcher is (again) right. I'm not Caldari, but you guys always go on about how due process will take it's course. Unless the CEP calls on independent capsuleers to assist, I think it's just best that we sit out of any direct action against Heth, and instead focus our energies on making sure the word gets out there of what he's done.

However if due process fails... well, let's not think of that for now.

As much good as we make it do. Whether or not it failed before is irrelevant to whether or not it can succeed now or in the future, and irrelevant to whether or not we should follow it.

Now, now. A night in a Gallente club is enough to show you that the Caldari are more refined and civil than we will ever be.

There are tens of thousands of mourning families out there who have lost loved ones to Heth's crazed crusade against the Federation and every single one of them deserve to see justice done...

apparently I'm the only man among us who thought to try and be Caldari about this.

I believe I have passed the point of anger and simply resolved to do whatever I can whenever I can to make sure Heth dies.

Now, now. A night in a Gallente club is enough to show you that the Caldari are more refined and civil than we will ever be.

Verin Hakatain-haan, I suspect this whole mess stems from that original post on the matter, as it was immediately quoted and followed with a bounty on his head. Let me be clear then:

Is anyone seriously surprised by this?

I'd rather not. It's not very Gallente to feel the need to act or be treated differently just because of ancestry.

Where does it say that the results of the lie detecting gizmo's were positive or negative? It says that CEP discussed the results. I rather wait for a CEP conclusion of the investigation than to speculate.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/tibus-heths-yanala-speech-cut-short-by-riot/

From the mouth of Executor Heth himself. I don't know if everything in Executive Officer Erinen's testemony was 100% correct as regards the detection apparatus, but Executor Heth confirmed the central point :- He forced Admiral Yanala to undertake the Tea Maker ceremony.

Could well be full of false-negatives. The CEP will make a wise decision no doubt, but I don't think they can drop Heth easily. The rabbit hole is most likely a lot deeper than we all think and a good rabbit always has more then one exit.

I still underwrite the goals set by Heth and I haven't read anything yet that makes me say he should be purged.

Caldari people have weird customs.
For example, if they lose just a battleship, that was issued to them by the State, they take their own lives. And since Admiral was given so much honour with a whole Leviathan in a strategically important position, and lost it, the amount of dishonor for this should be really colossal. If she didn't take her life herself, than what Mr.Heth did, was saving her own honor.
I think her family should be grateful to him, in some weird Caldari sense.

Hi, foreigner here, sorry for the silly question. Aren't you guys big on like, ROI? It seems like a huge ISK sink to me to throw out all that education and training, particularly given that the lifespan of your average warship in New Eden is, uh, not very long.

I feel sorry for the Admiral miss Yanala.

If I had to drink something knowing that it would be my last drink, I think I'd know what I want~.

For example, if they lose just a battleship, that was issued to them by the State, they take their own lives. And since Admiral was given so much honour with a whole Leviathan in a strategically important position, and lost it, the amount of dishonor for this should be really colossal. If she didn't take her life herself, than what Mr.Heth did, was saving her own honor.
I think her family should be grateful to him, in some weird Caldari sense.