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Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 753	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:36:00 - [61] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Nope, they'd just find another excuse not to undock. Go ahead and tell us more about it. I'd like to have some laughs reading those excuses. removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Riot Girl Riot Club 947	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:37:00 - [62] - Quote I already posted the excuses. Oh god.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 753	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:41:00 - [63] - Quote Haulie Berry wrote: Let's just seed everything on the market for 100 isk, like SiSi. Then nobody will ever have to make any decisions about what they're willing to risk for any particular benefit, and everyone can PvP all the time. Thing is that despite the simplicity of your assumption if you ever go around on sisi and despite everything being at 100isk you don't see more carebears playing over there than pvp fan boys. So sorry to tell you this but your argument is null. removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 753	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:45:00 - [64] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: I already posted the excuses. So tell me: -if pods cost 0 after paying for whatever amount of it and whatever amount of them you loose -if jump cloning is reduced to let's say 12h What would be your next excuse to say people are afraid of pvp? Because you know, if they were really that afraid of pvp and wanted everything for nothing they'd go play on sisi instead. Also tell me: -what about making boosting on grid only? -what about make it so it's impossible to fit more than 2 T2 links per command ship/T3 Command? How much risk averse are you? removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Haulie Berry 759	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:56:00 - [65] - Quote Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: Riot Girl wrote: I already posted the excuses. So tell me: -if pods cost 0 after paying for whatever amount of it and whatever amount of them you loose -if jump cloning is reduced to let's say 12h What would be your next excuse to say people are afraid of pvp? You don't seem to grasp that some people are averse to PvP simply on account of because. Quote: Also tell me: -what about making boosting on grid only? ***** awesome. Can't wait for it to happen. Quote:** -what about make it so it's impossible to fit more than 2 T2 links per command ship/T3 Command? I... what? What does that have to do with anything?
Riot Girl Riot Club 947	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:18:00 - [66] - Quote Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: So tell me: -if pods cost 0 after paying for whatever amount of it and whatever amount of them you loose -if jump cloning is reduced to let's say 12h What would be your next excuse to say people are afraid of pvp? Because you know, if they were really that afraid of pvp and wanted everything for nothing they'd go play on sisi instead. I can't make any sense of this. Are you saying the reason people avoid PvP is because the clones are too expensive and they don't want to lose implants, but if they really cared about clones and implants they would play on a test server? Quote: Also tell me: -what about making boosting on grid only? Great, can't wait for T2 BCs to be useful in a fight. Quote: -what about make it so it's impossible to fit more than 2 T2 links per command ship/T3 Command? idgaf? Quote: How much risk averse are you? Hm. Well I usually give myself a budget for fitting a ship if I expect to lose it and if I'm flying a ship I don't want to lose, I scout ahead so I guess I'm not that risk averse. I'm just cautious where I need to be. Oh god.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 753	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:19:00 - [67] - Quote Haulie Berry wrote: You don't seem to grasp that some people are averse to PvP simply on account of because. So let them be, their money is as good as yours for CCP and on top of having as much right as you have of playing the game their way and not how you want them to. Now instead of criticizing all the time risk averse players and automatically assume those are in high sec, what about find causes to effects and bring constructive solutions for the greater good of the game and all the community instead from your single point of view how the game should be played? Haulie Berry wrote: I... what? What does that have to do with anything? More than you want to admit or think about it but still, lets keep this "231564814681681-¦ constructive discussion about high sec carebears and how afraid they are about pvp. removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 144	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:20:00 - [68] - Quote ITT: OP gets **** on his shoes from kicking a hole in the side of the bloated dead horse.
Domanique Altares Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 144	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:27:00 - [69] - Quote Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: What would be your next excuse to say people are afraid of pvp? The problem is that's it not 'our' excuses for why they are afraid to PVP. It's their excuses. Every week we have one of these threads where some person starts BAWWWing about how clone costs or (especially) implants are the cause of them avoiding PVP, and if only the implants were gone, they would be able to do it. Never do they mention or acknowledge the fact that if they have a set of implants to lose, they were the ones to install them. They made that choice. The implants were not there to begin with. And now, after having chosen to install them, they blame the implants, instead of the choice that they made to install them. They did it to themselves, and listening to them cry about it grows tiresome; people who cry about things like this will always find something to cry about. We don't need to invent excuses for them in order to please you; wait long enough, and they will produce the excuses on their own.
Sergeant Acht Scultz School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 753	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:28:00 - [70] - Quote Riot Girl wrote: Hm. Well I usually give myself a budget for fitting a ship if I expect to lose it and if I'm flying a ship I don't want to lose, I scout ahead so I guess I'm not that risk averse. I'm just cautious where I need to be. You're not less or more risk averse than anyone as you are saying: you're being cautious for YOUR vision of the game and how YOU want to play it. The day you will realize you're not alone and there are actually thousands of different people playing the game, that they have their own vision of how the game should be played just as much as you, the day you will respect other players gaming style as much as you want them to respect yours, you'll make huge steps to have a decent and constructive discussion. Meanwhile this is just another boring thread about high sec, risk averse, meaning of losses thread that will have no other issue than the usual one where the same guys keep discussing in between them with their alts. Other players that might actually have something constructive to add to the discussion are systematically tired of being insulted for pixels by stupids unable to see far than their nose or think the universe orbits around their arrogance. removed inappropriate ASCII art signature - CCP Eterne
Haulie Berry 760	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:32:00 - [71] - Quote Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: More than you want to admit or think about it but still, lets keep this "231564814681681-¦ constructive discussion about high sec carebears and how afraid they are about pvp. No, I'm pretty sure it's just an idiot employing the "baffle them with bull ****" strategy.
Riot Girl Riot Club 947	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:34:00 - [72] - Quote Oh. Now you've put like that, I can see that whining on the forum about the costs of clones and implants is a legitimate playstyle. I'll respect people who whine about these things from now on and I apologise if I hurt your feelings. Oh god.
March rabbit epTa Team Inc. 689	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:38:00 - [73] - Quote Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: Riot Girl wrote: I already posted the excuses. So tell me: -if pods cost 0 after paying for whatever amount of it and whatever amount of them you loose -if jump cloning is reduced to let's say 12h What would be your next excuse to say people are afraid of pvp? - ship/modules are too expensive - ship/modules are too far away - there is no needed ship/module/ammo on the station i'm in - i only have 2-3 hours a day to play so i CANNOT wait 12 hours for clone need more?
Djana Libra The Black Ops S2N Citizens 176	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:55:00 - [74] - Quote lets also turn all spaceships into ponies, instead of shooting lethal ammo lets shoot soap bubbles so your pony won't die. They allready changed so much in this game that everything is cheap as **** and still people don't pvp if they don't want to. Has nothing to do with costs just with what people want to do.
BadAssMcKill Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 263	Posted - 2013.05.25 19:59:00 - [75] - Quote Jumpclone or if you really want to use implants just switch from +4/5 to +2/3 and only for attributes you're currently using Starships were meant to fly~ http://i.imgur.com/6j6cIZE.gif
Flying Flesh Diaoyu Island Pangu Coalition 0	Posted - 2013.05.25 20:03:00 - [76] - Quote Malcanis wrote: flakeys wrote: Or let's just remove all implants from the game? Let's make all ships cost 100 ISK! All things to be free.then they could get another excusen+îsuch as having no time etc
Darvaleth Sigma 229	Posted - 2013.05.25 20:35:00 - [77] - Quote Why don't we just remove PvP from this game and make it like space minecraft. You load of wusses. Give a man a match and you warm him for a day. Set a man on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life!
Adunh Slavy 856	Posted - 2013.05.25 21:04:00 - [78] - Quote Seems like most of the PVP chest thumpers are basing their arguments on a slippery slope fallacy.
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2194	Posted - 2013.05.25 21:05:00 - [79] - Quote Having good pvp is like eating a delicious omelette; how can you eat a delicious omelette without scrambling some eggs? I think if the cost of implants was somehow mitigated, people for the most part wouldn't pvp more, as the risk-averse wouldn't become any less risk-averse. However, the equation would shift a few percentage points in favor of more pvp happening, mostly due to the convenience factor. I want to think that more bears would venture out of their shells and try some of this pvp stuff they hear everyone talking about, but after so many years of experience in dealing with their type, I really don't think it would turn out to be that way. These people wouldn't pvp even if it was free, or actually gave them a net benefit even if they lost. They play on pve servers in other MMOs, and stay away from competitive experiences like fps games and such. They're in EVE purely incidentally, and don't usually stay for long. I've known these types, even personally, and I know how they think. Yes, it's that bad. Though surprisingly, a lot of them aren't that averse to getting into fights in real life... flakeys wrote: CanI haveyourstuff wrote: /signed to remove learning implants. I would definetly PVP more if I dont have to fck around with jumpclones so my +5-s could be safe..... You allready can have 4 of those .... how many clones would be enough ? 10 , 50 , 100 ? Another five clones would be pretty nice, actually. We've had a lot of new implants added in the past few years, and it would be nice to have more choices. Darvaleth Sigma wrote: Why don't we just remove PvP from this game and make it like space minecraft. You load of wusses. Minecraft can have some pretty ******* intense pvp. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Anyura Ministry of War Amarr Empire 91	Posted - 2013.05.25 21:23:00 - [80] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Seven Koskanaiken wrote: They should make implants player made You should get BPCs from 'reverse engineering' player corpses. What you can get out of it would depend on the attached killmail. Soylent Boosters!
Lady Areola Fappington New Order Logistics CODE. 259	Posted - 2013.05.25 21:23:00 - [81] - Quote I had this discussion in NPC corp chat a few days ago. It went something like this: "I'll be ready to PVP in two more years, I don't have the SP." "If you can fit a scram and guns, you can PVP" "OK, well, I've got expensive implants in my head." "Jumpclone out of them into a blank pod." "I don't have time to grind standings to 8 for a JC" "Use EACS, it's free." "If I Jumpclone, I'll lose training time!" "No more than two hours, no biggy." "Well, if I PVP, I can't maintain my ISK income." "It's what ISK is for, to go blow stuff up" And so on, and on, and on. My spouse is heavily anti PVP, and in his words "I hate the adrenaline rush." Sadly, these anti-PVP types are the same ones joining our game, and demanding changes under the guise of "It's a sandbox I can do whatever I want!" Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
Skeln Thargensen Thargensen Plumbing Services 168	Posted - 2013.05.25 21:29:00 - [82] - Quote basically don't feel the need to defend your carebearing with ridiculous reasons because a bunch of fanboys goad you on the forums about it. freelance space bum
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 1311	Posted - 2013.05.25 21:34:00 - [83] - Quote That's funny, I PVP in a 2.5 billion isk implant set all the time.
Cannibal Kane My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse 1809	Posted - 2013.05.25 21:42:00 - [84] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: That's funny, I PVP in a 2.5 billion isk implant set all the time. aaii... I don't understand what the issue here is. If you get podded.. buy more implants and have it. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS
Destiny Corrupted Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company 2194	Posted - 2013.05.25 22:26:00 - [85] - Quote Lady Areola Fappington wrote: My spouse is heavily anti PVP You must be very forgiving. Vimsy Vortis wrote: That's funny, I PVP in a 2.5 billion isk implant set all the time. Most of my clones, aside from a backup cyno clone I use for myself or other people in emergencies, have some combination of pirate/FW implants. I don't go for full high-grade sets all the time, but the average is probably around 600-700 million. When I'm active I spend about half my time in wormholes. It's pretty intense, and even though I don't really want to die and lose the implants, the benefits are just too good. I really wish I could have more jump clones. It would be nice to have one of each major set types, including the ECCM ones. I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here: https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted
Nexus Day Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau 596	Posted - 2013.05.25 22:38:00 - [86] - Quote Wow, amazing how many people know what I think when I ask a question. At no point have I stated an opinion on the matter. But I will say there really is no amount of risk in EvE that you can't buy your way out of. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
Haulie Berry 760	Posted - 2013.05.25 22:53:00 - [87] - Quote Nexus Day wrote: Wow, amazing how many people know what I think when I ask a question. At no point have I stated an opinion on the matter. But I will say there really is no amount of risk in EvE that you can't buy your way out of. The good ole, "My badpost was just an innocent question, honest guys!" This thread has been done a hundred times before, which is why everyone knows exactly where it's going. Nobody who actually WANTS to PvP is deterred by their implants. A few people who don't want to PvP will use their implants as an excuse, but anyone who actually WANTS to PvP will utilize some combination of jump clones and cheaper implants to set their risk to a level they deem acceptable, and then they'll go PvP.
Garresh Team Chicken and Waffles 212	Posted - 2013.05.25 22:56:00 - [88] - Quote Nope. Unless you've got a set podding is just an annoyance. Nothing more. This Space Intentionally Left Blank
Adunh Slavy 857	Posted - 2013.05.25 22:57:00 - [89] - Quote Haulie Berry wrote: but anyone who actually WANTS to PvP will utilize some combination of jump clones and cheaper implants to set their risk to a level they deem acceptable, and then they'll go PvP. Not when your clone costs, with out implants, 10-20 times the cost of fun time roam ship, no.
Riot Girl Riot Club 947	Posted - 2013.05.25 23:02:00 - [90] - Quote Literally 1bn isk medical clone. Oh god.

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